Guild Wars 2

To start with I’ll give you my predicted rankings. Feel free to share yours as well as any thoughts.

1. Fort Aspenwood: A tier 2/2.5 server currently forced into silver yet again due to glicko. Rumors are A LOT of guilds want to/planning to leave the server if they are silver. As these are rumors however and is yet to come true they secure the Spot for first easily.

2: Isle of Janthir: My home server. I feel we can make second after seeing SBI this week. In a competitive T3/weak server in the match SBI doesn’t have the coverage to compete with us. I have my server above HoD because I feel it’s full of fair weather players that won’t fight if met with resistance. We will see though. HoD could very well take this spot.

3. Henge of Denravi: A massive wild card and 3rd in my opinion is a toss up between them and SBI. HoD received massive amounts of transfers with free transfers coming out. I’m told they queue a ton of maps, even if they do their score does not reflect what people say they can do. Due time will tell.

4. Stormbluff Isle: As stated above its a toss up between HoD for third. The reasons I put ten fourth is because of how many maps HoD can apparently queue.

5. Yaks Bend: YB is a persistent server. They’ve shown this week that the dieing BP and SoR can’t best them. However they have always and continue to lack major coverage which is why they fall Into 5th.

6. Borlis Pass: While BP has lost guilds recently and coverage. So have the servers below them. BPs larger NA and NA persistence will bring them out above CD/NSP/SoR I believe.

7: Crystal Desert: CD is in toss up for this spot with both NSP and SoR. However I feel they deserve this due to the simple fact they continue to have a large SEA presence that can demoralize servers fast. Even with the loss KoME.

8: Northern Shiverpeaks: As said above a toss up for 7th place. NSP likely has a larger EU and NA force than CD. However it’s to be determined if the SEA force will get to ten and gain through the week.

9: Sanctum of Rall: As I said I have SoR in a toss up for 7th as well, simply because of the fact they have yet to face CD and NSP. SoRs recent exodus has had them tumbling down for at least a month now and continues to bleed players. However they’ve shown they will perceive the and recover. Time will tell

1.FA (barring a mass exodus of those wanting to be in gold league)
2.IoJ (whoever wins the matchup this week i got for second)
3. SBI
4. HoD (The two servers facing this server for the week will be the richest wvwers in the game for that week. I’m talking pve levels of loot here folks! Surgeon Generals warning has them possibly imploding before league ends)
5. Yaks (If the population is a bit bigger than the tiers below and they have skill the fourth place finish is a definite possiblity)
6.Crystal Desert (Op is wrong. We actually have more coverage and more people NA than before even after Kome left. It’s been a total blessing and we look to be a solid t4 server after leagues)
7. NSP (also have gotten more people and seem to have developed a bit of off hour presence)
8. Borlis Pass (unfortunate to be where it was when free transfers were announced, lost guilds and coverage, most hurt server in silver league by the announcement of the league itself and free transfers)
9. SoR (Haven’t faced them so don’t no their population but they could possibly be silver in name only or be a legitimate t5 server)

Don’t count out SBI for second place (assuming FA doesn’t implode if they get stuck in silver). In a server meeting the night before reset it was discussed that a lot of our players needed a break from the WvW grind after 3 weeks of DB-SBI-SOR and several tough weeks prior to that as well. So, I don’t think we’re bringing our full force and effort to the battlefield this matchup. I’m not saying we’re a lock for 2nd or even 3rd, but this week’s performance may not be a true reflection of the effort we can put forth when we feel there’s something on the line. I’m hoping for/expecting “clear eyes and full hearts” on SBI, once the season starts.

T5 is a giant wildcard. HoD had three maps queued at 7pm server time last night. That is mid week NA Prime. By 11PM server time NS had a 60+ man zerg running. I came from BP and we haven’t seen numbers like that in a long time. I think the reason the scores seem “close” in T5 is because all three T5 servers have gotten significantly stronger together from free transfers. Once the T5 servers break out and their new populations start working together there could be some upsets coming.

Course a large PvE influx on any server could easily swing the results. YB has probably the best “PvE to WvW” forces I have seen. Also from what I saw last night, HoD has a lot of small guild groups following a commander rather than several large guild groups. These likely won’t fare as well as the coordinated groups from IoJ and SBI but a few weeks could change that quickly.

The great news is that everything in between FA and SoR is a toss up unlike season 1.

1. FA (Depending if their server wants to remain in Silver or move to Gold)

2. IoJ/SBI (Depends on which server is more responsive to FA’s map play)

3. IoJ/SBI/HoD ^v

4. HoD/SBI (Depends on match ups)

5. YB

6. CD/NSP (Depends on match ups and coverage fills. CD has gain NA and NSP looks to have gain a bit of everything, but no significant gain in a particular timezone)

7. NSP/CD ^

8. BP (Heard about a lot of guild bleeding and militia. Haven’t faced in awhile, so unsure)

9. SoR (Excessive bleeding)

You might want to try and add “NA Rankings” there in the title if that’s the purpose of the thread.

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

You might want to try and add “NA Rankings” there in the title if that’s the purpose of the thread.

Were the names of the servers not enough to clue you in?

As far as the topic of the thread goes, I’d guess FA will win, but hard to say until we know how many guilds are transferring off. IoJ, SBI, HoD should be in the top 4 — I’d probably give IoJ and HoD the edge over SBI because they have better coverage.

Oslaf Beinir.5842:

You might want to try and add “NA Rankings” there in the title if that’s the purpose of the thread.

Edited to prevent confusions sorry.

So far It seems my judgment of BP is the opposite of many people, They looked pretty decent last week. I’m guessing a lot more people have left since then.

What’s more interesting for me is whether any silver league servers can replicate what YB and Ebay did to SBI last season. Both servers placed higher than predicted due to opportunistic double-teaming. I’d like to see that happen again this time around just to shake things up a bit.

FA will be losing guilds. You cannot judge silver atm.

1. Henge Of Denravi – The coverage right now they have are insane. So many different guilds have gone to that server, that capturing many different objectives would be too simple.

2. Fort Aspenwood – As many people are speculating, they are gonna lose some guilds, and that will effect them, but since they’ve been on such a high server for so long, their PvE players might carry them.

3. IoJ – Just based on that they are currently beating SBI

4. SBI

5. Yak’s Bend – Great PvE base, that came through for them last season. This server also defends well, so ppt will always be there.

6. Crystal Desert – Although they lost a few guilds, they also gained a lot of smaller guilds that are able to be the difference maker. Their SEA is strong and will always be the backbone to this server.

7. NSP – Like Crystal Desert, got many new guilds which will help boost their performance. However, a weaker SEA than Crystal Desert might be the difference between the 2 servers.

8. SoR – Don’t underestimate this server. Their PvE heroes might come out to play, and this server has the strongest PvE out of all the silver league. All they really need is a few capable drivers and they could do some damage.

9. Borlis Pass – Lost too many guilds and it’s a shame because they have one of the greatest communities.

You guys all regard HOD too highly. Their 30-60 + zerg currently is engaging 9 of us, and none of them are moving forward. All sticking back…we were never overwhelmed in the 10 minute battle. In a camp battle. Sure they took the camp, but they should have crushed us, but didn’t due to incompetent commander. Also they can’t bleeding take our EB keep as long as we have 8-10 people defending it. They had a 40+ Zerg with Omegas. We killed the omegas and drove them away. Are you serious. In a pitched battle, they wouldn’t last for waste product of eating. Sure they have numbers, but they are nowhere going to take first. Not a wild card, their Zerg is more uncoordinated than NSP.

That being said. The ranking isn’t that far off.
1. FA
2. SBI
3. YB
4. IOJ
5. Toss up between CD and NSP and HOD (HOD prolly 5th. Depends on how determined CD and NSP are in this case.)
6 Toss up between CD and NSP and HOD
7 Toss up between CD and NSP and HOD
8 BP or SOR
9 BP or SOR

While nothing is impossible, I’m having trouble thinking HoD is now a T2 caliber server considering their score against other T5 servers. I think they would have trouble beating SBI and IoJ.

All this will be affected PvE player infusion anyway, like YB last season.

HoD numero 1! Huehuehue!!

People keep saying that HoD has multiple maps queued, etc, etc. If that is actually true, then HoD players must be the absolute worst group of WvWers in the game.

HoD is beating NSP and CD, sure, but they’re not winning hard compared to some other matchups. YB and FA are both winning their respective matchups harder than HoD is winning theirs, and both YB and FA are in higher tiers (yeah, I know SoR is skewing things). HoD obviously isn’t even close to this all-conquering beast that people seem to think it is.

Pyroathiest.4168:

People keep saying that HoD has multiple maps queued, etc, etc. If that is actually true, then HoD players must be the absolute worst group of WvWers in the game.

HoD is beating NSP and CD, sure, but they’re not winning hard compared to some other matchups. YB and FA are both winning their respective matchups harder than HoD is winning theirs, and both YB and FA are in higher tiers (yeah, I know SoR is skewing things). HoD obviously isn’t even close to this all-conquering beast that people seem to think it is.

Yaks bend is fighting SoR which has very little WvW population because of the implosion. BP is also in that matchup and from what I have heard has lost quite a few guilds as well. FA is a tier 2/2.5 like OP stated that has ridiculous coverage and is facing IoJ and SBI for the first time in a long time. HoD is currently fighting CD and NSP all three servers got free transfers so as far as we know NSP and CD could have more players then BP or SoR at this point so stating we aren’t winning our matchup as much as the others is a bad thing is kind of a bad way to look at it. To be honest I could see NSP and CD beating both SoR and BP and possibly even YB at this point from what I have been told about YB losing guilds so really until we get into leagues we just do not know.

Good luck in silver though this should be some good interesting matchups.

1.FA Even without GvG balls they are the most experienced WvW community in Silver.
Plus coverage.
2. HOD They have a lot of wvw guild transfers. And even though first few weeks pve players will confuse the picture they will still be able to roll through the rest to challenge FA.
3.SBI/IOJ/YB – pretty much up to luck. All three are Militia based servers due to loosing main wvw guilds to high/lower tiers. Will depend on match – ups. Whoever gets more pve/fair weathers of these 3 will win 3rd.
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6. BP They can actually do very well as soon as they stop killing each other.
I think they Could probably beat yb/sbi/ioj if there was no PVE achievements involved.
7. CD might do much better than 7 if those transfers stay after their first week. But generally fair weather and band wagon players will jump to the winner anyway. If their transfers stay they can do very well.
8. NSP will probably have the most loot bags in this tier.
9. SoR lack of wvw guilds will hurt them in the long run.

Dream In A Dream.7213:

1.FA Even without GvG balls they are the most experienced WvW community in Silver.
Plus coverage.
2. HOD They have a lot of wvw guild transfers. And even though first few weeks pve players will confuse the picture they will still be able to roll through the rest to challenge FA.
3.SBI/IOJ/YB – pretty much up to luck. All three are Militia based servers due to loosing main wvw guilds to high/lower tiers. Will depend on match – ups. Whoever gets more pve/fair weathers of these 3 will win 3rd.
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6. BP They can actually do very well as soon as they stop killing each other.
I think they Could probably beat yb/sbi/ioj if there was no PVE achievements involved.
7. CD might do much better than 7 if those transfers stay after their first week. But generally fair weather and band wagon players will jump to the winner anyway. If their transfers stay they can do very well.
8. NSP will probably have the most loot bags in this tier.
9. SoR lack of wvw guilds will hurt them in the long run.

We’ve not lost guilds. We’ve gained quite a few “Singular”
people actually despite high Xfer cost.

FA will be losing a couple guild, but we will still steam roll silver, we have gotten 3 new guilds since last week 1 is ocx which more then makes up for the guilds leaving

It’s unfortunate that a T2 server has to drop down to silver league because of silly glicko but there is a silver lining to this.

The last season, there was no EotM and the matchups were predetermined. This time we have EotM and the swiss style means that the strong servers will fight each other regularly. So FA will probably be fighting HoD quite a bit, which should provide more than enough fights for your guilds (HoD queuing 4 maps now apparently).

FA is definitely up there. It was pretty competitive last week and I actually had a hard time against their roamers in EB

I really doubt HoD can queue 4 maps.. FA can only do that on reset nights and we are beating t3 by a bigger margin then HoD is beating t5, but yeah hopefully silver league wont be as horrible as last season.

Pyroathiest.4168:

People keep saying that HoD has multiple maps queued, etc, etc. If that is actually true, then HoD players must be the absolute worst group of WvWers in the game.

HoD is beating NSP and CD, sure, but they’re not winning hard compared to some other matchups. YB and FA are both winning their respective matchups harder than HoD is winning theirs, and both YB and FA are in higher tiers (yeah, I know SoR is skewing things). HoD obviously isn’t even close to this all-conquering beast that people seem to think it is.

This here nailed it. Prepare to be pve rich when facing HoD in wvw for the week.

If HoD can truly queue 3 maps in primetime and isn’t completely steamrolling CD or NSP, then I can only surmise that T5 servers have become the new T3 servers. Correct me if I’m wrong but I don’t think IoJ or SBI have 3 map queues during their primetime. Hell, I doubt even FA has that. It’s very likely that the HoD bandwagon consists of more exaggeration than actual players.

If it’s true that HoD can queue 4 maps during NA prime on a weeknight, then they’ll be shooting up the ranks for a while. A bit of coverage over other time zones and they’ll be a serious t3 contender while they get better at defending/attacking and holding PPT before hitting t2.

Crazy speculations

Seriously, even t1 can only queue 4 maps during NA on reset night

FA, IoJ, SBI, YB and BP all have better large group and siege skills than the other servers. It is likely their large skill groups will mow T5 zergs as they are today. That said T5 is certainly more populated than T4 and it is likely HoD is at least top 3 in silver population. I also believe T5 servers will adapt and learn from T3.

I will admit that it is hard to watch some HoD commanders make siege mistakes one after another. Give any T3/T4 server numbers and 4 omegas and you can kiss your keeps waypoints goodbye without a near equal number of defenders. That won’t happen in T5 today but it likely will by the end of season 2.

From what I have seen on HoD is that most of the real WvW people/guilds are not spending allot of time in WvW, as right now it is just to easy, and all I see are karma trains running, blatant ones that that, commanders who are really bad coming onto the map and saying “On me for karma!!” in map. I know my guild would much rather open field fight than knock down doors over and over again and we have just not seen that, every time we find another group in open field, they run back into their keep. As such, I find myself playing WvW even less these past few weeks and when I do it is just roaming for the most part.

So with that said, once we come into some servers with a bit more power you will probably see allot better tactics, because right now the WvW seems to be filled with PvEers and people just karma training along, and seeing how HoD is almost 80k points ahead already you really don’t need that good of players to hold it, as we all know numbers and coverage is all that is needed allot of the time.

HoD may have a good few months, especially if some of FA’s skill groups leave.
That said, if they manage to creep into tier 3 and higher, they’ll face the same thing every server faces that takes a run up to tier 2… getting their faces smashed in by the skill groups in tier 2.
I honestly have no idea how silver league will pan out… queue’ing tons of maps in NA prime generally doesn’t mean much. Most servers will have high NA population for leagues. The difference will be who has the best off hours coverage (as always).
So my prediction is…
1. FA (population too much for everyone else in silver)
2. IOJ off hours coverage saves them
3. HoD finish 3rd with high pop but probably not enough experience against large servers
4. SBI will fight it out for 3rd maybe even 2nd if fairweathers show up. Stand to benefit from getting wins when HoD and IOJ and FA are facing off.
5. YB. High PvE population that comes out for tournaments. Loss of 2 biggest WvW guilds from last season hurt.
6. CD. No reason, just probably more people than those below them.
7. NSP. Same as above
8. BP. Lost too many people and guilds.
9. SoR. Same as above

1) FA
2) IoJ
3) SBI
4) YB or HoD – HoD has some pretty bad organization at times and so many up level pvers that obviously run in full zerker gear. It’s literally a free bag fest when you see up levels there. These players will probably be the downfall of HoD as they will be free rally bots in zerg vs zerg battles. I do have to say that they have some pretty good guilds that have great response times. Really a wild card.
6) CD
7) NSP
8) BP
9) SoR

Straegen.2938:

FA, IoJ, SBI, YB and BP all have better large group and siege skills than the other servers. It is likely their large skill groups will mow T5 zergs as they are today. That said T5 is certainly more populated than T4 and it is likely HoD is at least top 3 in silver population. I also believe T5 servers will adapt and learn from T3.

I will admit that it is hard to watch some HoD commanders make siege mistakes one after another. Give any T3/T4 server numbers and 4 omegas and you can kiss your keeps waypoints goodbye without a near equal number of defenders. That won’t happen in T5 today but it likely will by the end of season 2.

I dunno about the other servers you posted but I’ve been in Yak’s Bend ever since the beginning recently switching to HoD. Yak’s used to be a competent force in WvW but recently after the all the guild migrations it has become a mess and a pain to watch, the only reason Yak’s is doing well this week is because of the broken servers that its currently matched with BP and SoR. You can check its history if you don’t believe me, these past couple of months its been open season on Yak’s and when put up against more competent servers they get stomped both because of the population decline and the lack of organization serious wvw guilds bring. As of now they are a militia server.

Kobi Beef.3895:

I dunno about the other servers you posted but I’ve been in Yak’s Bend ever since the beginning recently switching to HoD. Yak’s used to be a competent force in WvW but recently after the all the guild migrations it has become a mess and a pain to watch, the only reason Yak’s is doing well this week is because of the broken servers that its currently matched with BP and SoR.

YB has a couple aces up its sleeve though. They defend as well as any server I have played against. They also rally their PvE populations well. I am not saying they will consistently win against IoJ, FA or SBI but I think they are strong enough to beat CD, SoR, BP and probably NS. HoD is a massive wildcard. I knew HoD had a strong population but I didn’t think the 3 map queues was real until I got here.

Yaks bend has gotten a huge influx of players the week before season2 . Im on bp and they are literally quing outnumbering us in our bl and eternal almost everyday.

Deli.1302:

It’s unfortunate that a T2 server has to drop down to silver league because of silly glicko but there is a silver lining to this.

The last season, there was no EotM and the matchups were predetermined. This time we have EotM and the swiss style means that the strong servers will fight each other regularly. So FA will probably be fighting HoD quite a bit, which should provide more than enough fights for your guilds (HoD queuing 4 maps now apparently).

Dragonbrand is on FA’s level if not stronger in terms of PPT, and believe me, you would rather be stuck fighting FA than DB since DB is just about the most boring server you could possibly fight in this game. So yes, I agree that it’s unfortunate that a T2 server has to be in silver league but for the other servers FA is better than DB.

Deli.1302:

It’s unfortunate that a T2 server has to drop down to silver league because of silly glicko but there is a silver lining to this.

The last season, there was no EotM and the matchups were predetermined. This time we have EotM and the swiss style means that the strong servers will fight each other regularly. So FA will probably be fighting HoD quite a bit, which should provide more than enough fights for your guilds (HoD queuing 4 maps now apparently).

Silly glicko? There’s 4 T2 servers so yes, one of them gets stuck being the oddman out. Doesn’t matter what ranking or matchmaking system they had in place.

FA might be losing some guilds, but you have to account for the silver league transfer too. We’ve gotten 3+ new guilds in the past week.

In terms of IoJ, we have for a long time been the type of server where if we really tried and wanted to, we could be a really high ranking and a really good server.

We’ve been through alot of shuffles, even being as low as T6 or T7 at one point. But when people take WvW more serious we are really a force to be reckoned with.

Even at this point, slightly beating SBI we are probably at 70% of our potential. If it weren’t for WBT every day at 7pm EST we would be queuing up 2 borderlands consistently. Right now it is only EB that is queued up. Not saying that we would beat FA if IoJ were to live up to its potential, but we would possibly make a strong bid for second. We do have pretty exceptional late night/early morning coverage though.

However, this depends a lot on the server transfers, and how much other servers were holding back. IoJ as far as i know hasn’t received any major transfers.

TinkTinkPOOF.9201:

From what I have seen on HoD is that most of the real WvW people/guilds are not spending allot of time in WvW, as right now it is just to easy, and all I see are karma trains running, blatant ones that that, commanders who are really bad coming onto the map and saying “On me for karma!!” in map. I know my guild would much rather open field fight than knock down doors over and over again and we have just not seen that, every time we find another group in open field, they run back into their keep. As such, I find myself playing WvW even less these past few weeks and when I do it is just roaming for the most part.

So with that said, once we come into some servers with a bit more power you will probably see allot better tactics, because right now the WvW seems to be filled with PvEers and people just karma training along, and seeing how HoD is almost 80k points ahead already you really don’t need that good of players to hold it, as we all know numbers and coverage is all that is needed allot of the time.

^ this pretty much. the pugs and smaller guild groups held down home bl so well during reset vlk resorted to tonic races out of boredom. i’ve spent the week roaming & looking for duels because everything else is just a huge karma train. at 7’ish pm server time these were our queues at reset … and we haven’t even hit the season start & have had at least two 300+ person guilds transfer since, not counting any solo/small team/roamers.

welcome to the queues of zergravi.

obastable.5231:

^ this pretty much. the pugs and smaller guild groups held down home bl so well during reset vlk resorted to tonic races out of boredom. i’ve spent the week roaming & looking for duels because everything else is just a huge karma train. at 7’ish pm server time these were our queues at reset … and we haven’t even hit the season start & have had at least two 300+ person guilds transfer since, not counting any solo/small team/roamers.

welcome to the queues of zergravi.

Wow. Such queue. Much impress.

daydream.2938:

Yaks bend has gotten a huge influx of players the week before season2 . Im on bp and they are literally quing outnumbering us in our bl and eternal almost everyday.

Those aren’t new players those are their PvE players coming into WvW. It also doesn’t help that BP is down to about 4-5 five reasonably sized WvW guilds and most of them will not run a tag. If BP doesn’t get a solid PvE turnout, the numbers on HoD, YB and higher are going to be a massive problem. I miss BP already but I will not miss getting hammered for the next 9 weeks. I hate to say it but BP may finish in 7th or 8th place.

BP is nowhere near dead. The guilds BP lost are roaming guilds or skill groups who raid late NA.

BP was strong before because of its moderate EU (which not many servers last season had), little SEA and good NA.

This season BP will have a moderate EU and good NA.

We WILL compete so don’t go easy on us!

obastable.5231:

TinkTinkPOOF.9201:

From what I have seen on HoD is that most of the real WvW people/guilds are not spending allot of time in WvW, as right now it is just to easy, and all I see are karma trains running, blatant ones that that, commanders who are really bad coming onto the map and saying “On me for karma!!” in map. I know my guild would much rather open field fight than knock down doors over and over again and we have just not seen that, every time we find another group in open field, they run back into their keep. As such, I find myself playing WvW even less these past few weeks and when I do it is just roaming for the most part.

So with that said, once we come into some servers with a bit more power you will probably see allot better tactics, because right now the WvW seems to be filled with PvEers and people just karma training along, and seeing how HoD is almost 80k points ahead already you really don’t need that good of players to hold it, as we all know numbers and coverage is all that is needed allot of the time.

^ this pretty much. the pugs and smaller guild groups held down home bl so well during reset vlk resorted to tonic races out of boredom. i’ve spent the week roaming & looking for duels because everything else is just a huge karma train. at 7’ish pm server time these were our queues at reset … and we haven’t even hit the season start & have had at least two 300+ person guilds transfer since, not counting any solo/small team/roamers.

welcome to the queues of zergravi.

TC barely broke that this reset with like 70-80 a map. That’s crazy for you guys.

How can HoD queue that much but not steamroll everything smh

Well I’ll this time discuss HOD slightly more neutrally. Just fought them for 40-50 minutes in NSP garri. Only managed to dislodge us after a heated battle. Most of them were just wandering around in the middle. They had a spy too. 80 vs 30 of us. Yea They may have numbers, but their karma train might be their downfall, if they don’t let the regulars in come season for the higher tier battles like FA. Of course they can/are beat/beating us to a pulp with those numbers, but only through sheer numbers, it’ll be a time before their armies are organized.

I feel their fair weather effect is in full force for HoD currently, Come tough match ups they will probably crumble. However they could still be a very solid T3 server.

1. FA – even minus 2-4 guilds they have the most experience and can put up superior numbers in EU and NA. Their OCX and SEA are insufficient for T2, but will do the job for silver

2. YB – modest 24 hr overage but I rate them #2 because their casual population is very on board with their defensive-based strategy

3. IoJ – could very well beat YB but no idea how deep their militia lies or how skilled it may be. definitely has an edge in guild coverage and night coverage.

4. HoD – it has the numbers, but their pre-season score does not reflect that. If they actually manage the base level of organization to out blob their opponents they’ll do well. Not enough to break YB’s defense or IoJ’s coverage. Oddly, they’ll probably do better against FA than the other two.

5. SBI – I’m tempted to rank them lower, as SBI will have almost zero depth in casual interest. After two dramatic falls from grace, I’m willing to bet their “civilian” population wants nothing to do with WvW. However they retain some of their pre-season 1 numbers and those that are left have been through the gristmill… Some cases twice

6. CD – another server that could do better than this spot due to good off hours coverage. A sometimes contentious community continually is it’s own worst enemy but they could surprise.

7. BP – a short time ago this would be unthinkable and still feels odd given the talent level is still high on this server. They are still reeling from mass desertions and haven’t had time to catch their equilibrium so I expect them to underperform.

8. NSP – plenty of moxie and reportedly home to many excellent duelists and roamers. This allows their bronze-sized population to over-achieve but it’s hard to see how they could pervail against their league-mates

9. SoR – getting stuck in Silver is just the latest in a long string of indignities that has befallen this server since their crushing disappointment in the first season.

FA this week was making ppt more than normal … To climb league gold. In leagues silver with some guild leaving, should be more even clashes.

1 FA
2 YB
3 OIJ
4 HoD
5 CD
6 SBI
7 NSP
8 BP
9 SOR

IoJ will beat YB. They did handily for a couple weeks already and not much has changed on those servers. SBI is either IoJ sized or YB sized and we won’t know until FA isn’t in the mix. My guess is SBI is closer to IoJ or larger.

My picks and these are seriously up in the air:

FA
IoJ
SBI
HoD
YB
NS
CD
BP
SoR

I just did the math and the YB vs IoJ for 2nd comes down to week three when it will be FA-YB-IoJ. FA will focus IoJ more but IoJ can gain more points at night. If the YB defense holds, they will get it by simple virtue of IoJ having less defense and they’ll get farmed in EU and NA more.

Interestingly enough, that is also the first time that CD will face SBI.

So week three is the BIG week for Silver and will effectively settle things unless it’s very close or shenanigans.

Ok. Basing this on a few assumptions. HoD losing to IoJ and YB; YB beating IoJ, SBI beating CD, CD beating NS and BP.
Lastly, if pre-season rankings matter when determining a tie when matching up (highest pre-season glicko gets highest matchup)

1. FA with 45
2. YB, HoD, and CD with 29
5. SBI and IoJ with 27
7. NS with 25
8. BP with 23
9. SoR with 9

This is caused due to the odd number of matchups and the fact that losers one week will be winners the next. Those that win the first week (odds) will have a huge advantage over those who don’t.

So, CD shouldn’t try too hard to beat SBI and IoJ better beat YB in week 3.

The CD/SBI shifts and the NS/BP things are actually asssuming that the server that scores higher is the one that loses to the other in head to head matchups.

So $#@! is whack.

Chris.3290:

2. YB – modest 24 hr overage but I rate them #2 because their casual population is very on board with their defensive-based strategy

That’s funny because not so long ago you sounded like this:

Chris.3290:

The Bad

YB A nerf to arrowcarts would send this server to T6. Their defense culture is the only thing that is keeping them in the higher tiers.

What made you change your mind? This week’s result? Do not take that too seriously and do not count either BP or SoR out for the League.

I for my part do not want YB to repeat the result of 1st season (if we are capable of that), because it sent us to a post-season rating which did not reflect our strength, and into matches with Zombie horde servers for weeks, which wasn’t good for the morale of those who stayed after season 1 was over.

To sum it up, the exceptional effort of my server during season 1 was worth nothing and only had negative consequences. Fool me once, shame on you, fool me twice, shame on me, ANet.

My prediction:

1. FA 2. IoJ 3. SBI 4. HoD 5. any of the remaining