Guild Wars 2

Why does mag get a link? is this a joke???

After manual close now also manual linking, i’m out. Rip

Well … little surprised about mags + 1 while JQ unlinked and full.

it was probably close enough tc/jq/yb/mag could have been treated similar. maybe et/ar are pretty small these days?

Edit: the more I look at it, the less I understand it….

kefro.9312:

After manual close now also manual linking, i’m out. Rip

You know… FA’s been Full/Very High since the population calculation change over a year ago and hanging around rank 6. Anet at the time said some servers marked Full were overstacked well beyond the Full status (like BG still is). When JQ was Very High, you guys still brought out numbers that FA could almost compete with. I don’t honestly know how you expect not to go Full when you can outnumber FA at times and then go and recruit. T2 “size” is basically the new max server size you have to get used to, not the old overstacked T1 sizes. It really sounds like you need to trim players in certain timezones if you want to fill other timezones.

Dragonbrand was T1 at the end of the previous linking and gets 2 links. There’s going to be some glicko adjustment in their future.

kefro.9312:

After manual close now also manual linking, i’m out. Rip

Arena Net gave JQQ the middle finger… Poor Malandreco…

Don’t laugh to much they will turn to your server after they are done with bg and jq.
Making players pay for transfers confirmed.

I actually think this linking is reasonable for both EU and NA this time.

lol uh well hmmm. Think I got T4d again. I’ll think of an appropriate rant/flame later. #%%*@%"!!!!!!!

Ponko.1673:

Why does mag get a link? is this a joke???

ET is being punished for some reason.

kefro.9312:

After manual close now also manual linking, i’m out. Rip

Did you think linking was an automatic process? Of course it’s manual.

WTF? Maguma has a link? They’ve placed first and have been in T1 for weeks. kitten . TC placed 4th and JQ is 5th. Whoever was in charge of this has their head really far up their kitten . No one voted for kitten not have links, but it was done. Now, you’re not even de-linking the top 3 servers. Dunno if I can continue with this crap.

Spurnshadow.3678:

WTF? Maguma has a link? They’ve placed first and have been in T1 for weeks. kitten . TC placed 4th and JQ is 5th. Whoever was in charge of this has their head really far up their kitten . No one voted for kitten not have links, but it was done. Now, you’re not even de-linking the top 3 servers. Dunno if I can continue with this crap.

same reason why SOR was #1 for a long time. its same ppl who log on to play WvW everyday not pvers who goes in for 10 mins to afk.

It would be interesting to see the numbers to justify this, but it’s more fun for them to just let us think that JQ is the Necromancer of WvW servers.

Spurnshadow.3678:

WTF? Maguma has a link? They’ve placed first and have been in T1 for weeks. kitten . TC placed 4th and JQ is 5th. Whoever was in charge of this has their head really far up their kitten . No one voted for kitten not have links, but it was done. Now, you’re not even de-linking the top 3 servers. Dunno if I can continue with this crap.

I’m gonna go with that other guy’s theory—ET is being punished for some reason. One reset with Mag and I’m left wondering what on earth we could have done to deserve it.

Sorry but I don’t get why tiers would exist as soon as servers get relinked. I mean its kind of dumb that at the start of a game everyone already has their finished rankings. Everyone is either starting in the losers chair or the winners chair.

My understanding is:
Higher population servers stay in their tiers pretty much always. So T1 host servers always stay the same with t2 and t3 and t4 ‘generally’ with an up or down by 1. While guest servers have the opportunity to move between tiers? Is that correct? Although in my servers case we’ve always been T4 or the lowest in T3.

Then since the glicko is never scrapped..the winning servers always stay the winning servers regardless of losing or being a tier lower in their pairing for a week.

Kinda like each server is a giant zerg. The larger established ones are assumed to eat any smaller than themselves and are given gold medals by default. Is that an appropriate analogy? No matter what you do the larger always wins. And no matter how many weeks you defy adversity and win against them, the glicko and tiers always say a loser server is a loser server.

So why a “High” server like Dragonbrand has 2 other links?

SkyShroud.2865:

So why a “High” server like Dragonbrand has 2 other links?

For a High server DB was performing very poorly at T4 against Linked Medium ones.

You give the server winning T1 a link? lolwut? Who is making these decisions? And could you please explain them? I think we’d all like to be enlightened on this since it seems pretty nonsensical.

RyuDragnier.9476:

You give the server winning T1 a link? lolwut? Who is making these decisions? And could you please explain them? I think we’d all like to be enlightened on this since it seems pretty nonsensical.

You prefered they’d give a link to a Full server like JQ or BG? Also ET and AR are problably the smallest servers out there. Their presence isn’t significant to the blobfest that is T1. The only issue will be if these server get Bandwagoned like it happened in the first link.

What’s mind boggling is that OT’ing was an issue to be addressed. Thus, world capacity should have been increased, not decreased. Decreasing means more hours per day and more days per week each player has to play to cover and fill the maps. They’ve decreased it so low that you can’t fill maps 24/7 unless each player play’s 8 ish hours per day. That level of OT’ing is ludicrous and OT’ing is all it takes to win now. It’s just the wrong direction for the game. Beyond that fact that there’s simply zero competition as the Dev’s are making up rules as they go, making up teams, having biased populations, it’s not a fun competitive environment any longer.

Anet WvW Team balance (Rip WvW 2016/10/29):

(1). Let #1 Rating Server Maguuma get link
(2). #2 Rating Server- Blackgate , #4 Rating Server – Tarnished Coast , #5 Rating Server – Jade Quarry Server all no link
(3). #5 Rating Server- Jade Quarry full
(4). #3 Rating Server – Yak’s Bend get link
(5). Close Blackgate Server already 3 months

loool

I agree with the above posts. The links make no sense. Anet – what is the thought process and reasoning behind the linking and closing of servers? Do you pay attention to your game? Stop the arbitrary linking or open BG, JQ, and TC if you insist on forcing the arbitrary linking.

Chaba.5410:

kefro.9312:

After manual close now also manual linking, i’m out. Rip

You know… FA’s been Full/Very High since the population calculation change over a year ago and hanging around rank 6. Anet at the time said some servers marked Full were overstacked well beyond the Full status (like BG still is). When JQ was Very High, you guys still brought out numbers that FA could almost compete with. I don’t honestly know how you expect not to go Full when you can outnumber FA at times and then go and recruit. T2 “size” is basically the new max server size you have to get used to, not the old overstacked T1 sizes. It really sounds like you need to trim players in certain timezones if you want to fill other timezones.

Its not about just being full its not getting a link. Anet has just literally destroyed JQ. Well done anet.

This demands justification.

The ideal purpose of the linkings is to provide players allies and enemies during their WvW playtime at any given timezone.

It is not some kind of bad medicine like for example a fine Salt where you wrap it in an aluminum foil, lit it then blow it in your nostrils. Where salt is used in food to make it taste better not for everyone to feel it inside them.

Back in the days before linking, us in lower tiers doesn’t care about your stupid PPT wars, we just want enjoy WvW while we are playing, finding an ally or an enemy back then was too kitten difficult in certain timezones. And its not enjoyable to play that way…

So do yourselves a favor, and please do, take a bath, wash yourselves, cuz the frustrations and perspiration you generate when they evaporate on your skin will turn into sodium also known as salt.

And from what ive seen, most players on low tiers before almost always have that outnumbered buff, that means they are born with the gift to become the zerg busters.
The ones that left those low tier servers are a second rate who doesn’t have the the skills to become one, they just born on that server lol.

morrolan.9608:

Chaba.5410:

kefro.9312:

After manual close now also manual linking, i’m out. Rip

You know… FA’s been Full/Very High since the population calculation change over a year ago and hanging around rank 6. Anet at the time said some servers marked Full were overstacked well beyond the Full status (like BG still is). When JQ was Very High, you guys still brought out numbers that FA could almost compete with. I don’t honestly know how you expect not to go Full when you can outnumber FA at times and then go and recruit. T2 “size” is basically the new max server size you have to get used to, not the old overstacked T1 sizes. It really sounds like you need to trim players in certain timezones if you want to fill other timezones.

Its not about just being full its not getting a link. Anet has just literally destroyed JQ. Well done anet.

This demands justification.

Kinda have to agree here, last I was on JQ ~40 minutes ago all BL\EBG were outmanned… on a kitteng reset night.

Edit: just checked, now there is a queue of 10 on EBG…

Jeknar.6184:

RyuDragnier.9476:

You give the server winning T1 a link? lolwut? Who is making these decisions? And could you please explain them? I think we’d all like to be enlightened on this since it seems pretty nonsensical.

You prefered they’d give a link to a Full server like JQ or BG? A

JQ can’t compete with whichever server comes down to T2 so of course it deserves a link.

Jeknar.6184:

RyuDragnier.9476:

You give the server winning T1 a link? lolwut? Who is making these decisions? And could you please explain them? I think we’d all like to be enlightened on this since it seems pretty nonsensical.

You prefered they’d give a link to a Full server like JQ or BG? Also ET and AR are problably the smallest servers out there. Their presence isn’t significant to the blobfest that is T1. The only issue will be if these server get Bandwagoned like it happened in the first link.

I’d prefer if they followed the pattern from the last 2 times…where the servers in T1 get no links, the rest of the servers do. There has to be a pattern here, you don’t just go and give 2 of the T1 servers links for no reason.

RyuDragnier.9476:

Jeknar.6184:

RyuDragnier.9476:

You give the server winning T1 a link? lolwut? Who is making these decisions? And could you please explain them? I think we’d all like to be enlightened on this since it seems pretty nonsensical.

You prefered they’d give a link to a Full server like JQ or BG? Also ET and AR are problably the smallest servers out there. Their presence isn’t significant to the blobfest that is T1. The only issue will be if these server get Bandwagoned like it happened in the first link.

I’d prefer if they followed the pattern from the last 2 times…where the servers in T1 get no links, the rest of the servers do. There has to be a pattern here, you don’t just go and give 2 of the T1 servers links for no reason.

But there is a reason, I bet that reason is that those two servers spent more money on gems n crap than the others.

Maybe they’re trying to create stable tiers?

Making JQ full and unlinked guarantees they stay T2 for a long time to come. TC without a link can’t compete in T1. Mag and YB linked and open mean they stay top tier, BG perma full but rightly so (even though its unfair that mag stays open).

But then they make weird matchups -

FA are going to lose every single skirmish this week. Everyone hates being placed in a matchup with YB – but you put 2 extremely volatile servers JQ and TC with them (as if trying to get them to implode).

Only goal I see is encouraging transfers. Maybe they see that WvW volatility can be lucrative ($20+ a pop to a “very high” server) and are going to milk it dry rather than actually making it fun and fair.

Pancake.3092:

Maybe they’re trying to create stable tiers?

Making JQ full and unlinked guarantees they stay T2 for a long time to come. TC without a link can’t compete in T1. Mag and YB linked and open mean they stay top tier, BG perma full but rightly so (even though its unfair that mag stays open).

But then they make weird matchups -

FA are going to lose every single skirmish this week. Everyone hates being placed in a matchup with YB – but you put 2 extremely volatile servers JQ and TC with them (as if trying to get them to implode).

Only goal I see is encouraging transfers. Maybe they see that WvW volatility can be lucrative ($20+ a pop to a “very high” server) and are going to milk it dry rather than actually making it fun and fair.

This is exactly it, they see an opportunity for $$$$, so screw logic and the players… just chase the dollars.

Eroder.7698:

Pancake.3092:

Maybe they’re trying to create stable tiers?

Making JQ full and unlinked guarantees they stay T2 for a long time to come. TC without a link can’t compete in T1. Mag and YB linked and open mean they stay top tier, BG perma full but rightly so (even though its unfair that mag stays open).

But then they make weird matchups -

FA are going to lose every single skirmish this week. Everyone hates being placed in a matchup with YB – but you put 2 extremely volatile servers JQ and TC with them (as if trying to get them to implode).

Only goal I see is encouraging transfers. Maybe they see that WvW volatility can be lucrative ($20+ a pop to a “very high” server) and are going to milk it dry rather than actually making it fun and fair.

This is exactly it, they see an opportunity for $$$$, so screw logic and the players… just chase the dollars.

Except, that is utterly flawed as they’ll just keep losing players. No players, no income…

Grant Gertz.7524:

Worlds have now been re-linked.

Here are the worlds for NA:
• Blackgate
• Jade Quarry
• Tarnished Coast
• Maguuma, Eredon Terrace
• Yak’s Bend, Anvil Rock
• Fort Aspenwood, Sanctum of Rall
• Sea of Sorrows, Ehmry Bay
• Stormbluff Isle, Gate of Madness
• Dragonbrand, Borlis Pass, Kaineng
• Northern Shiverpeaks, Sorrow’s Furnace
• Henge of Denravi, Ferguson’s Crossing, Isle of Janthir
• Crystal Desert, Darkhaven, Devona’s Rest

This is a HORRID joke, right?

Maguuma, who stands down just like Yak’s Bend did, never needed a link and now you like them IN Tier 1?

Whoever is working in WvW at this company has ZERO experience in playing WvW and can’t SEE what is happening first hand.

This is disheartening for all WvW players, not just those abused at the very top.

Eroder.7698:

Pancake.3092:

Maybe they’re trying to create stable tiers?

Making JQ full and unlinked guarantees they stay T2 for a long time to come. TC without a link can’t compete in T1. Mag and YB linked and open mean they stay top tier, BG perma full but rightly so (even though its unfair that mag stays open).

But then they make weird matchups -

FA are going to lose every single skirmish this week. Everyone hates being placed in a matchup with YB – but you put 2 extremely volatile servers JQ and TC with them (as if trying to get them to implode).

Only goal I see is encouraging transfers. Maybe they see that WvW volatility can be lucrative ($20+ a pop to a “very high” server) and are going to milk it dry rather than actually making it fun and fair.

This is exactly it, they see an opportunity for $$$$, so screw logic and the players… just chase the dollars.

We need to know who it is in Anet who thinks that this ‘version’ of WvW is viable for the players !

Don’t pick on the servers; ask those who write the software why they aren’t in the game with us daily.

I actually wonder if people really BUY gems to transfer or if they just convert it with gold… Honestly, the only time I bought gems was when I wanted to buy some gem store item and I was saving gold to finish a legendary.

DeWolfe.2174:

Eroder.7698:

Pancake.3092:

Maybe they’re trying to create stable tiers?

Making JQ full and unlinked guarantees they stay T2 for a long time to come. TC without a link can’t compete in T1. Mag and YB linked and open mean they stay top tier, BG perma full but rightly so (even though its unfair that mag stays open).

But then they make weird matchups -

FA are going to lose every single skirmish this week. Everyone hates being placed in a matchup with YB – but you put 2 extremely volatile servers JQ and TC with them (as if trying to get them to implode).

Only goal I see is encouraging transfers. Maybe they see that WvW volatility can be lucrative ($20+ a pop to a “very high” server) and are going to milk it dry rather than actually making it fun and fair.

This is exactly it, they see an opportunity for $$$$, so screw logic and the players… just chase the dollars.

Except, that is utterly flawed as they’ll just keep losing players. No players, no income…

I agree 10000% but they can’t seem to grasp it…

Mag had to be relinked after what happened to DB imo . Mag imploding won’t be good for the game .

I think Anet hates CD first they give us the numbers to get out of tier 4 but make it impossible to leave due to glicko and only fix it on the last week, then give us two sets of servers that get .3 k/d’s on there maps during reset(SF and DH). After this linking its going to be 6 months straight of bad linkings, I just want SBI back /cry.

Aphs.9528:

Mag had to be relinked after what happened to DB imo . Mag imploding won’t be good for the game .

I’m not really sure if Mag would actually implode without a link (they still open and had no large guilds on BP like DB had on IoJ), but YB definetely need one to be competitive up there…
I feel they could have given Eredon Terrace to FA along with Sanctum of Rall… There is need for a 6th server in the top tiers and, while it always underperforms, FA is the closest to be competitive up there. NSP tri-link wasn’t enough and SBI only rolled T2 in a week where suposedly JQ and TC were both tanking for a link (THAT THEY DIDN’T GOT! GET REKT).

morrolan.9608:

Chaba.5410:

kefro.9312:

After manual close now also manual linking, i’m out. Rip

You know… FA’s been Full/Very High since the population calculation change over a year ago and hanging around rank 6. Anet at the time said some servers marked Full were overstacked well beyond the Full status (like BG still is). When JQ was Very High, you guys still brought out numbers that FA could almost compete with. I don’t honestly know how you expect not to go Full when you can outnumber FA at times and then go and recruit. T2 “size” is basically the new max server size you have to get used to, not the old overstacked T1 sizes. It really sounds like you need to trim players in certain timezones if you want to fill other timezones.

Its not about just being full its not getting a link. Anet has just literally destroyed JQ. Well done anet.

This demands justification.

Oh lord, no! How the mighty have fallen! What’s so special about JQ that they can’t fall a few tiers? Servers have been rising and falling long before links became a thing.

Since we moved to T1 we’ve lost a lot of guilds. So our pop isn’t really that high tbh. I’m sure Anet sees this and gave us a link.

Pancake.3092:

FA are going to lose every single skirmish this week.

FA won the second skirmish.

Jeknar.6184:

Pancake.3092:

FA are going to lose every single skirmish this week.

FA won the second skirmish.

Mag won it m8. mos is wrong

Unlinked is better for JQ, as we at least stand a chance at opening at some point. The linked servers tend to close due to the smaller capacity. I just feel bad for ET at this point.

SpellOfIniquity.1780:

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Oh lord, no! How the mighty have fallen! What’s so special about JQ that they can’t fall a few tiers? Servers have been rising and falling long before links became a thing.

Its got nothing to do with being special, its about anet not being fair under this system. I thought the same when DB fell and when YB fell. T1 servers were not meant to get links yet 2 T1 servers do and 2 T2 servers don’t. Plus I don’t see why anet shouldn’t provide greater transparency about these decisions given they are made using the personal judgement of the devs.

Population and PPT capability tend to correlate, but they are not the same thing.

TC was ready for the possibility of no link, we played hard last week. In the end YB failed to tank hard enough in kitten drop out of t1, but make no mistake YBs performance last two weeks was a pure show and for some reason anet rewarded it. The worst part about it is that YB is perhaps one of the least entertaining servers you could play against. No one wants YB in a T1/T2 rotation.

JQ certainly tanked last week, but even so does that mean they didn’t deserve a link? They are a trash server that needs all the help they can get.

How did anet decide that Maguuma, the #1 server, deserved a link? The only thing more obscene would be to give BG a link.

The only possible explanation is that anet wants kitten be locked into Mag/BG/YB to reduce the rotation. It’s a multi-pronged stroke of genius. On the one hand you keep BG in check with a pair that’s strong enough to dominate them in fights and ppt, on the other hand you force BG to destack by pairing them up against YB because let’s face it, no one wants to play against such a poor competitor.

The only fault in this genius strategy is that there isn’t a T1 glicko wall to support that set up, anet must soon be getting ready to announce glicko adjustments for BG/Mag/YB to force a wall.

Banished once again to a dead tier. Saw 5 open field ACs thrown twice because we couldn’t push our own tower. Shortly after, someone patched the gate/wall both times. Enemies are wearing paper armor and hit like mosquitos. Keep runs 100ish sup with no siege up or recent attacks. People dropping like flies in 10v4 vs paper enemies.

I’m sure it’s just the new link settling in. I’m just being dramatic. Feels bad man…