Guild Wars 2

There is absolutely NO REASON that immobilize should ever kittening stack duration.

it wouldn’t be so bad if it was the first condition taken away when you try to cleanse but it is annoying when you have 6+ condi on you. use your shouts and yet you still have 10+sec of immbo and cant do anything about it

Everyone knows this.

But show me one example of ArenaNet reverting a change that proved to be kittened.

+1 for this.

Thanks to immobilize stacking they turned Engineer into hard counter for Guardian.

Even if Anet agrees, they won’t change it. They have too much pride to ever admit to a mistake.

The real issue is that Immobilize is a CC that is treated like a condition etc. Stacking should not exist in any MMO. CC chaining is something that should utilize player skill not target mark spamming.

CC’s should never stack in any form or shape, and the same goes for chain CC, get them immunity goin or make the crap supershort.

Phule.1968:

CC’s should never stack in any form or shape, and the same goes for chain CC, get them immunity goin or make the crap supershort.

This right here. I should never get knocked down 5 times before even getting to move, I should not be seeing 15+ seconds of immobilize, I should not be seeing 21+ seconds of Fear (not joking, it’s happened to me before), and I should not be getting pulled by 4 different fields at the same time (I was actually laughing during that one happening to me, but still).

I think condi damage needs a look first before we look at immunity timers.

Crowd Control in general, and that includes Immobilize as well as Fear, should simply not be considered Conditions.

Quite simple really.

I thought one of the ambitions GW2 had set out to achieve is limit the amount of CC that is spammed in MMOs. But instead it’s now worse here than it ever was elsewhere.

Omne.4603:

The real issue is that Immobilize is a CC that is treated like a condition etc. Stacking should not exist in any MMO. CC chaining is something that should utilize player skill not target mark spamming.

I think it also violates their own philosophy of Damage / Control / Support. By treating control skills the same way as damage skills ( to wich i count the condition damage ) they convert the control into damage.
Stacking damage i can certainly live with. It utilices playerskill since you have to pay attention to wich target you apply your stack of condition damage.
Stacking Control. It just sounds off the moment you say it and that should say it already. You either have control or you don’t, you don’t have a stack of it……

I agree that it shouldn’t stack, but honestly the alternative is worse. What I’ll do instead is wait until the immob wears off and hit you with it again.

Forget that immob is a condition and stacks duration; the real problem is that it is so easy to apply in the first place – there are an abundance of abilities that apply it (e.g. a P/D thief can perpetually re-apply immob – something I personally tend to do with that alt in zergs).

It manages to completely lock down your ability to play, no other skill manages to accomplish it in the same way. On occasions I literally felt like I’m tapping my fingers waiting for the immobilize to finish so that I can keep playing.

I can appreciate immobilizers in game but given that GW2 is encouraged to be a fluid playing game, stacking immobilize seems excessive and contrary to this.

It’s amusing in the stupidest way.

One time I was locked down for what seemed like an absolute eternity. It was a zerg fight in WvW, the immobilize lasted so long I managed to have a small conversation with myself:

Immobilized “Ugh I was having some good fights too. Oh no…. the enemy train is heading this this way. No wait, it’s passing I think, but I’m still taking some damage, I hope I’m ok”. Zerg passes “Oh thank god for that, that was close” Immobilize ends.

EFWinters.5421:

Everyone knows this.

But show me one example of ArenaNet reverting a change that proved to be kittened.

Deli.1302:

Even if Anet agrees, they won’t change it. They have too much pride to ever admit to a mistake.

Character bound WXP… at least the change is announced.

Whoever came with the idea of stacking immobilize should be fired

It doesn’t help that there is an immobilize bug still in the game that prevents a player from moving after it wears off. The bug seems to work just like the siege bug where a player has to switch weapons to move again. Our D/D ele gets kittened since switching weapons isn’t an option.

I also suspect a lot of players are getting hit with this and think they are immobilized for a long period of time rather than stuck by a bug.

There should be diminishing returns. And immob SHOULD NOT STACK! Its just incredible BS.

I think it stacking wouldn’t be such a problem if it wasn’t for the fact that it’s considered as a condition and is not affected by stability. I get Cripple, but immobilize does cause loss of control, you can’t dodge, you can’t move and for some melee dependent classes you can’t attack.

the cool thing about warriors is you break out of cc by using movement skills

like GS # 5 GS # 3 Sword # 2 shield # 4
Eviscerate Earthshaker Bull’s charge

fabz.4736:

it wouldn’t be so bad if it was the first condition taken away when you try to cleanse but it is annoying when you have 6+ condi on you. use your shouts and yet you still have 10+sec of immbo and cant do anything about it

Yep, and yet when I try to use stability with ether renewal, a thief can instantly strip it and daze me regardless of how many boons I have up.