Guild Wars 2

hayabusafmw.9370:

anduriell.6280:

Ghost.7032:

I will keep this short.
Anet remove or nerf the condi cause in wvw there is no piont to roam or to have fun fights anymore. This is what wvw is now 1 enemy spam a stupid skill. You, remove condi, resistance, heal. Your boons got removed. Heals, restistance, remove condi. CD. Game over. Your scwered.

Either give resistance a longer stack and cannot be removed. Or give more condi removal to other classes and not only DRUID!! Or bring back the good old days where small group was be possible to wipe blobs (with no high condi damage!!). Because now there is 0% chance to wipe blobs

Fix the game… thank god..

it is not only the condi, it’s the one shot philosophy anet has taken the last year. Spamming 15k damage every 2 seconds for 16k life pool is not fun to anybody.
Now this game feels like playing an fps.

+10

that is their way to call it a action game (no mechanics, or at least very very poor gameplay mechanics with pretty graphics) but high damage and fast kills makes it a action mmo… at least alot of players think.

Skritts besides shinies loves to be tricked by game industry placebos..

Must be a perception thing. I’m also on Ehmry, almost exclusively roaming, and I see a pretty even mix of condi and power builds out there with maybe slightly more power on balance.

pointaction.4639:

Lastly have fun playing that is what games are made for to have fun…

You’re totally missing the point here. This is the reason people have no fun playing this game, when a necro can land up to 40 stacks of everything on players by pressing just 2 buttons in many cases and regardless how many condi cleanses there are the condis just keep coming.

Condis from my understanding were meant to cripple foes, but not kill them instantly. The game is messed up, everyone knows it and people like you will of course defend their builds because it suits them and will pretend like everything’s OK, when in reality, it is far from that.

soooo.. remove condi from the game so that it is direct dps all the way now, just because someone is too noob to remove condi ?

ThomasC.1056:

azizul.8469:

soooo.. remove condi from the game so that it is direct dps all the way now, just because someone is too noob to remove condi ?

Actually it’s more :

I want condis to be the way I have them in my head, and as I see they’re not, then the game is all messed up, as everyone knows it, especially me. Proof is all the cheesy noobs are enjoying their gameplay while I don’t like it, so they must be some kind of mad people.

Cheesy noobs would be a great snack food name.

Can’t talk about NA, haven’t played there for a while but…
- EU tier1 has mainly power based roamers.
- Anyone who thinks condi is better than power in zergfights is delusional. Yes, 1-3 condi necros with epidemic can do alot of work, but power better in most scenarios.
- 15v15 condi and power are pretty much equal, depends on how you have your guild set up.
One more thing about zerging…
Maybe, just maybe, if the revenants in your group would learn to use Malyx/Dwarf instead of Shiro/Glint, then you could deal with the conditions. Also if you stop standing in corruption wells, you would not have problems with losing your boons all the time.
Learn how the game works, and you will learn how to deal with different builds.
I’m not saying the balance is perfect, but there is no unbeatable enemy in this game.
Dunno.

The game needs a condi cap, like 25 or something…. oh wait, there was a condi cap.

Condi cap won’t fix it anyway as you will be dead way before you get burns to stack to 25.

conditions need to work more like they did on gw1 and remove cleavage from all AA, they need to be single target, if u want to condi spike a group players need to condi boomb well, its to easy how classes skils are working, to much cleavage/aoe in short cd’s might be the issue, but that is because pve its all about that.

so the issue is pve..

Offair.2563:

Condi cap won’t fix it anyway as you will be dead way before you get burns to stack to 25.

The condi cap coud be global instead of being per condi.

Aeolus.3615:

conditions need to work more like they did on gw1 and remove cleavage from all AA, they need to be single target, if u want to condi spike a group players need to condi boomb well, its to easy how classes skils are working, to much cleavage/aoe in short cd’s might be the issue, but that is because pve its all about that.

so the issue is pve..

What do you have against cleavage? If there too much of it than it should be addressed via different outfits and armors I suppose.

babazhook.6805:

Aeolus.3615:

conditions need to work more like they did on gw1 and remove cleavage from all AA, they need to be single target, if u want to condi spike a group players need to condi boomb well, its to easy how classes skils are working, to much cleavage/aoe in short cd’s might be the issue, but that is because pve its all about that.

so the issue is pve..

What do you have against cleavage? If there too much of it than it should be addressed via different outfits and armors I suppose.

lol… cleavage what was i thinking ???? o_O" “cleave auto atacks”

What if condis and damage just affect the target being(targeted/selected) hitted on most non aoe skills, and then select a very few skills that cleave on targets?

pls anet nerf condi.

Ghost.7032:

I will keep this short.
Anet remove or nerf the condi cause in wvw there is no piont to roam or to have fun fights anymore. This is what wvw is now 1 enemy spam a stupid skill. You, remove condi, resistance, heal. Your boons got removed. Heals, restistance, remove condi. CD. Game over. Your scwered.

Either give resistance a longer stack and cannot be removed. Or give more condi removal to other classes and not only DRUID!! Or bring back the good old days where small group was be possible to wipe blobs (with no high condi damage!!). Because now there is 0% chance to wipe blobs

Fix the game… thank god..

The Scene:

WvW Alpine BL

Eight or Ten Friendly Troops

Three to Four Enemy Troops

The result:

Three Friendly Players Downed Without Any Chance To Fight

Forth Player Dead In Two Hits With 1300+healing, 3200+Toughness and Not Standing In Any Red Circles.

If there is no mitigation of condi versus the application of condi, the game is truly and absolutely broken.

Dieing against heavily outnumbered enemies is a L2P issue and therefore irrelevant for balancing discussions. So is dieing without knowing, what actually happened.

atheria.2837:

Ghost.7032:

I will keep this short.
Anet remove or nerf the condi cause in wvw there is no piont to roam or to have fun fights anymore. This is what wvw is now 1 enemy spam a stupid skill. You, remove condi, resistance, heal. Your boons got removed. Heals, restistance, remove condi. CD. Game over. Your scwered.

Either give resistance a longer stack and cannot be removed. Or give more condi removal to other classes and not only DRUID!! Or bring back the good old days where small group was be possible to wipe blobs (with no high condi damage!!). Because now there is 0% chance to wipe blobs

Fix the game… thank god..

The Scene:

WvW Alpine BL

Eight or Ten Friendly Troops

Three to Four Enemy Troops

The result:

Three Friendly Players Downed Without Any Chance To Fight

Forth Player Dead In Two Hits With 1300+healing, 3200+Toughness and Not Standing In Any Red Circles.

If there is no mitigation of condi versus the application of condi, the game is truly and absolutely broken.

If you lost with double their numbers you were outplayed…..

Jim Hunter.6821:

atheria.2837:

Ghost.7032:

I will keep this short.
Anet remove or nerf the condi cause in wvw there is no piont to roam or to have fun fights anymore. This is what wvw is now 1 enemy spam a stupid skill. You, remove condi, resistance, heal. Your boons got removed. Heals, restistance, remove condi. CD. Game over. Your scwered.

Either give resistance a longer stack and cannot be removed. Or give more condi removal to other classes and not only DRUID!! Or bring back the good old days where small group was be possible to wipe blobs (with no high condi damage!!). Because now there is 0% chance to wipe blobs

Fix the game… thank god..

The Scene:

WvW Alpine BL

Eight or Ten Friendly Troops

Three to Four Enemy Troops

The result:

Three Friendly Players Downed Without Any Chance To Fight

Forth Player Dead In Two Hits With 1300+healing, 3200+Toughness and Not Standing In Any Red Circles.

If there is no mitigation of condi versus the application of condi, the game is truly and absolutely broken.

If you lost with double their numbers you were outplayed…..

Yup. I call BS. Video of it or it didn’t happen. If this did happen, then it sounds most likely that you were just 8 random guys grouped together with no coordination or consideration to your gorup comp.

Scenario. Fighting a group of peoples on my power thief. Outnumbered but not by a lot. Little to no condition cleanse, in fact relying on dodges and ONLY cleanse on trick via trickster. Can hit like a truck but just too many conditions to deal with from the multitude of enemies sitting undercover of trebs and mortar applying fire and poison. I get focused I am dead. Ineffective under that scenario.

I bring in an alternate power thief, this one by design to have a lot of condition cleanse. He cleanses with EA and evades. He cleanses with trickster. He cleanses with sigils and cleanses when using his elite , his heal and his SOA and I fare much better , shrugging of those same conditions even as damage dealt to the enemy. Armor and health is virtually identical.

Do not expect the same build you use to maximize power damage in order to kill a power based enemy to perform the same against a Condition based enemy. Do not expect a build designed to best another in 1v1 to fare as well against a multitude of enemies. By the same token , do not expect that by having the same number of peoples on your side , a 50 50 outcome given you have no idea of how your team mates are built to handle conditions.

If they all like my thief one , with minimal condition cleanse, they are all going to die fast to a group of enemies using conditions.

Ghost.7032:

Either give resistance a longer stack and cannot be removed. Or give more condi removal to other classes and not only DRUID!! Or bring back the good old days where small group was be possible to wipe blobs (with no high condi damage!!). Because now there is 0% chance to wipe blobs

Fix the game… thank god..

Warriors e.g. already benefit from very long Resistance duration. The simplest solution would be to decrease condi power and stacks. It’s not fun to get 10 – 25 burn stacks (Burning being by far the most powerful condi in the game next to Confusion). Not all condis are in a bad state, Poison seems to be OK, for now.

Speaking of the Druid – targeted healing makes it the most useless healing class. Trying to heal people running around like crazed monkeys is impossible.

To sum this up in 3 simple steps:

• remove obsolete and overpowered runes / sigils like Trapper and Perplexity
• greatly decrease the power of conditions and their stacks in all modes except PVE
• employ more common sense, because looking at the game it’s all that needs to be employed. Stop trying to create Star Wars.

It really is that simple. Everyone with common sense can see the game is very broken. The company clearly lacks any common sense whatsoever. Very, very bad design decisions making it everything but enjoyable and the countless feedback speaks for it. Anyone reading the forums or other sites with common sense will never pay for this game in the state it is now.

Sadly ANet has a history of not caring about fixing their game. Just read the patch notes. Professions like the Dragonhunter should never have been born.

Even streamers on Twitch complain more and more about terrible matchups in PVP, which is the best for us and the worst for ANet.

You can’t decrease condi dmg because my apothecary engi is already horrible.

atheria.2837:

Ghost.7032:

I will keep this short.
Anet remove or nerf the condi cause in wvw there is no piont to roam or to have fun fights anymore. This is what wvw is now 1 enemy spam a stupid skill. You, remove condi, resistance, heal. Your boons got removed. Heals, restistance, remove condi. CD. Game over. Your scwered.

Either give resistance a longer stack and cannot be removed. Or give more condi removal to other classes and not only DRUID!! Or bring back the good old days where small group was be possible to wipe blobs (with no high condi damage!!). Because now there is 0% chance to wipe blobs

Fix the game… thank god..

The Scene:

WvW Alpine BL

Eight or Ten Friendly Troops

Three to Four Enemy Troops

The result:

Three Friendly Players Downed Without Any Chance To Fight

Forth Player Dead In Two Hits With 1300+healing, 3200+Toughness and Not Standing In Any Red Circles.

If there is no mitigation of condi versus the application of condi, the game is truly and absolutely broken.

Sounds like an L2P issue, let me give you a handful of useful links. If you need any more tips on how to not explode, just ask

https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Resistance
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pain_Absorption
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Healing_Signet
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Berserker_Stance
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_Durability
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Purging_Flames
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Contemplation_of_Purity
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Pure_of_Voice
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Superior_Rune_of_the_Trooper
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Druidic_Clarity
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Elixir_C
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Signet_of_Agility
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Shadowstep
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Consume_Conditions
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Diamond_Skin
https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Cleansing_Water

Choppy.4183:

Must be a perception thing. I’m also on Ehmry, almost exclusively roaming, and I see a pretty even mix of condi and power builds out there with maybe slightly more power on balance.

I’m on Kaineng and find the same sort of thing roaming.