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Posted by: Rannulf.9417

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So there’s a chance we might get a new WvW map from the Jan/Feb or March update, I wonder if it would be like diffrend flavor, maybe something fireheart rise theme or norn land although we have a lot of snowy place already. What kind of map would you want for them to put?

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Posted by: Gab Superstar.4059

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Well the best would be Elona themed of course, but I doubt THAT is gonna happen. Other than that I would love something from the Tarnished Coast. Jungle-ish.

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Posted by: Tyila.7596

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its going to be a underwater world map

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Posted by: Tala.7638

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Yeah, I just got to this thread. I was thinking 3 NEW maps. One for each color/rank’s borderland. Keep EB, bec the fighting there is pretty unique and still really fun most every night. But I personally am kinda feeling bummed about borderland tactics atm. And, what a horrible thought…underwater WvWvW match…ugh.

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Posted by: Preacher.4836

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I’m not sure where we are getting that there will be new WvW maps. The Dev’s did say that it is something that they want to do but that it will be a huge undertaking and that they are focusing on other things atm.

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Posted by: Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

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From the interview you know they want different maps, but seeing the time, cost and pressure to release, they kept to identical maps.

I think they said the February WvW patch will bring new features and fixes, but I dont think we will get new maps though.

That said, didnt someone say that this patch is supposed to be similar in scope to half a new expansion campaign?

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Posted by: Tala.7638

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i cant believe it is that difficult to come up with new wvw maps, they came out with lost shore and who really goes there minus gold farmers. i mean…come on. WvW IS this game. if the Devs want to keep this game around and sell thier gems, i would think they would want to hear from us. Maps isnt the only issue in WvW.
We[ppl reading and posting on forums] obviously still like and enjoy this game, only trying to help create a convo that the devs can pull from to hopefully help keep GW2 a viable option for ppl’s gaming time.

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Posted by: Preacher.4836

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The difficulty doesn’t come from creating a map. it comes from creating a balanced map.

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Posted by: Vena.8436

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i cant believe it is that difficult to come up with new wvw maps, they came out with lost shore and who really goes there minus gold farmers. i mean…come on. WvW IS this game. if the Devs want to keep this game around and sell thier gems, i would think they would want to hear from us. Maps isnt the only issue in WvW.
We[ppl reading and posting on forums] obviously still like and enjoy this game, only trying to help create a convo that the devs can pull from to hopefully help keep GW2 a viable option for ppl’s gaming time.

A WvW map has a much higher need for attention to detail and proper placement of just about everything than a PvE map like SSC. Moreover, seperate WvW borderland maps would be a balancing disaster and I would not expect that in and of itself to change. Rather, an additional BL map put into rotation with the other that swap in and out from week to week (one week all snow, one week all fire, etc, you get the idea, you’d still be fighting on identical BL maps). (This however, does not seem to be what will be coming as the forum post here stated new homemaps is not happening unless they meant new seperate, all unique home maps. I have no clue really.)

The issue right now is that just “adding” a new map (and I have no idea as to what exactly was meant in the “hint”, yes some sort of new map is coming but its completely vague on what said map even does or will be for) isn’t going to do anything to help. We don’t need MORE maps at once, its already hard enough to cover three in T1/T2. What we do need is MORE VARIETY in the maps and mechanics from week to week as well as a sense of ranking, progression, and general visible bragging rights (and rewards that I can use to play without needing to PvE to do so) to give people a reason to play beyond just “server pride”!

If the beacons mechanic, which I hope they add soon, is worth anything that will be good.
If the rewards and progression give people a sense of, well, progression to work on and climb the “ladder” so to speak, that will be good.
Fixing culling would go a LOOOOONG way.
Just adding a fifth map to spread already thin populations… isn’t going to accomplish anything.

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Posted by: orchid.4726

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its going to be a underwater world map

Hahaha, yes i love the idea. I think i would probably ragequit after breaking my keyboard in such a place

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Posted by: Birdo.1768

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I would love to see them add a desert themed map and a heavily wooded forest map, so we could have 3 styles to rotate over the weeks.

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Posted by: Vena.8436

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I would love to see them add a desert themed map and a heavily wooded forest map, so we could have 3 styles to rotate over the weeks.

Unfortunately, if memory serves, the estimated time for properly creating and testing a WvW map was slated at being approximately 6 months for whatever amount of manpower and work hours the WvW team has at their disposal (and I’m not about to doubt it considering just how careful a creator needs to be in setting these things up). These sorts of things, new maps, I’d expect in the loooong run. Right now the format needs to have key features added and be given a sense of autonomy from PvE.

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Posted by: Birdo.1768

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I would love to see them add a desert themed map and a heavily wooded forest map, so we could have 3 styles to rotate over the weeks.

Unfortunately, if memory serves, the estimated time for properly creating and testing a WvW map was slated at being approximately 6 months for whatever amount of manpower and work hours the WvW team has at their disposal (and I’m not about to doubt it considering just how careful a creator needs to be in setting these things up). These sorts of things, new maps, I’d expect in the loooong run. Right now the format needs to have key features added and be given a sense of autonomy from PvE.

yeah i didnt mean over the next week to add maps, im saying it would be cool to have 3 maps rotating every week. Its too bad we wont see any new maps(if ever) for a long time maybe after the feb update if we are lucky, i hope people arent getting bored of wvw and its maps I dont want to see players leave over something so minuscule. oh well time to play some wvw

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Posted by: Omaris Mortuus Est.2738

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I think people are beginning to get bored of having to face the same server over and over again. I think in some cases right now, servers are only moving tiers, not because they are getting better, but because players are transferring servers.

Just look at how many servers have 0 evolution in the rankings! Anet need to find a way to balance it out, end free transfers and open free transfers to specific servers with a “reward” for doing so.

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Posted by: kylia.4813

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I think people are beginning to get bored of having to face the same server over and over again. I think in some cases right now, servers are only moving tiers, not because they are getting better, but because players are transferring servers.

Just look at how many servers have 0 evolution in the rankings! Anet need to find a way to balance it out, end free transfers and open free transfers to specific servers with a “reward” for doing so.

Not everyone, there is something gratifying in learning your opponents fighting styles and adapting, and then having them adapt to your new style and so forth. Having same matchups also allows your guild to build Rep, meaning you can start to play psychological warfare, where by getting a new opponent every week limits you in regards to advanced tactics.
What made games like Eve, WAR etc great is you learned your opponents, infact part of strategy was learning your opponents, knowing which ones had what weaknesses you could exploit.
Ontop of that you gain recognition from enemies, celebrations when you defeat a rather nasty guild you come up against etc.
Yes changing matchups would be good (only if all servers were equal) but having the same matchup over and over can be alot of fun as well, if you start getting into the identity side of combat

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Posted by: Roo Stercogburn.9671

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Hi all, I hacked the ArenaNet devs servers and got a hold of the new map layouts that will be upcoming:

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/Maps/Hibernia/frontier/overview/overview-newfrontier.jpg

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Posted by: willwill.9318

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That’s about the only way, if they did actually copy daoc instead of doing the half azz copying they did… just give me a rank system like daoc. and i’m happy

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Posted by: selan.8354

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Hi all, I hacked the ArenaNet devs servers and got a hold of the new map layouts that will be upcoming:

http://camelot.allakhazam.com/Maps/Hibernia/frontier/overview/overview-newfrontier.jpg

Get ‘em while they’re hot.

erm, u might not wanna post that u hacked here.u know there are anet people reading this…oiiii

but to Anet having new maps would be amazing and i am sure u guys could do that. It would pull a lot of people back into wvw and would change the whole strategies we have. we all are already so used to those maps, that everyone knows the typical cata attacks and sneaky spots. we need new content.

I also would love to see new wvw badge rewards like armors and weapons…it would also be epic and attract more people if there was a way to obtain a legendary weapon with wvw.

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