Guild Wars 2

Crius.5487:

Farming upevels in EotM is how I get the T2-T4 mats for making my ascended stuff.

I’m kind of surprised at this. I’ve been practically living in eotm lately, and I consistently find better loot from the champ bags than I do player kill bags, which are often full of garbage. I’d rather have champs kills than player kills, since one is guaranteed whereas with players, you have to “tag” or “tap” them to have the chance of a bag drop.

Insight.1683:

PPL cry too much, we go to eotm cuz t3 is boring as kitten, nothing to do. That’s why we go there to farm bags. And of course we know where the zergs are. If u guys dont know, u can buy wards ….

And just to remember we’re not there to pve like everyonde do. We’re there to pvp cuz its a PVP map

The beauty of eotm is that it is not exclusively a pvp map. It’s kind of a weird mix of everything. pvp is not it’s sole purpose. Secondly, sentry turrets are not often available to teams besides OG. Often, commanders capping the og zone will bypass the observatory completely, since it’s a super gank zone. DB is lucky to have been og these past few weeks. And finally, consistently wiping a zerg for two or three hours straight isn’t any more exciting than running a ktrain- it’s just as boring, but less rewarding.

depends on the zerg.

Some of them fight back.

lolwtf.6259:

The beauty of eotm is that it is not exclusively a pvp map. It’s kind of a weird mix of everything. pvp is not it’s sole purpose.

Too many players now do insist that EotM should be an exclusive PvE map, raging in mapchat whenever they are involved in any fight, whether as the aggressor or the defender.

Most players (and commanders) in EotM don’t think about the possibility of fights at all, and this should run counter to the original goals of EotM or any map that supports PvP. At this point I feel like the bag farm commanders are doing the community a great service by reminding everyone in EotM that they need to constantly be aware of their surroundings.

On the flip side, EotM is not just about karma or experience either. Bag hunting remains one of the most effective ways (and only practical way outside of higher tier WvW) to obtain kills toward Ultimate Dominator. WXP from bag hunting is also competitive with taking objectives.

EotM does have its issues. The extreme ease of defense (with overabundance of choke points and hard-to-reach defensive siege) and color population imbalance (green/blue/red need to be assigned completely randomly, or assigned in a way to create overall color balance) are both issues that should be addressed long before anything else.

RiverSong.5067:

I was running Edge Of The Mist for fragments to complete my armors (which i did, yay), and i came across something new to me. We got farmed. It became obvious anywhere the train went, there would be a zerg there waiting for us. People explained it thinking there was a spy doing this to annoy people.

While this is bad karma and you’ll go to hell for it, not much can be done about it. I’m just wondering, does he get anything out of this? Besides annoyed peoples? And is it common?

You do realize it is a wvw map, right?

Going in upleveled, poorly geared, with no comms is fine but expect to be attacked and depending on the competency of your commander/group maybe even farmed.

Also there was a time when eotm commanders from opposite sides would whisper one another to make sure that they could keep the karma train going without running into each other. Not sure if that still goes on? Regardless maybe there are commanders/players whispering each other to maneuver their zergs into places they’ll have to fight.

DaveGan.8065:

lolwtf.6259:

The beauty of eotm is that it is not exclusively a pvp map. It’s kind of a weird mix of everything. pvp is not it’s sole purpose.

WELL GEE. why do you think that is?

Because Arenanet is forcing garbage dynamic events on us and won’t give us a farm. EOTM IS the farm.

Now get out or I’m just gonna keep ragedefending every FR wall and tower and throw sentry turrets everywhere to ruin everyone else’s fun since they’re ruining my farm. Oh, and ballistas on gates and rams on ACs.

Toxicity.5392:

DaveGan.8065:

lolwtf.6259:

The beauty of eotm is that it is not exclusively a pvp map. It’s kind of a weird mix of everything. pvp is not it’s sole purpose.

WELL GEE. why do you think that is?

Because Arenanet is forcing garbage dynamic events on us and won’t give us a farm. EOTM IS the farm.

Now get out or I’m just gonna keep ragedefending every FR wall and tower and throw sentry turrets everywhere to ruin everyone else’s fun since they’re ruining my farm. Oh, and ballistas on gates and rams on ACs.

I have 12 lvl 80 characters, millions of karma, and am more than capable of running dungeons for gold so I need neither experience nor karma nor champ bags. Feel free to ragedefend, because I’m more than happy to collect kills and similar WXP as a bag hunter while ignoring all those walls you mentioned.

Perhaps you would be better served trying to raise support to move some of these farms back to PvE (without the QQ/toxicity that players always complain about there). Your attempt at mutually assured destruction only works when you can actually destroy the other side.

It is good, however, that you’re choosing to fight for your right to farm. I wish more zerglings in EotM could say the same.

EDIT: reposting this bit in case you missed it last time

DaveGan.8065:

On the flip side, EotM is not just about karma or experience either. Bag hunting remains one of the most effective ways (and only practical way outside of higher tier WvW) to obtain kills toward Ultimate Dominator. WXP from bag hunting is also competitive with taking objectives.

EOTM is intended to be a WvW map so expect PvP anywhere outside the spawn area.

It is undoubtedly a great place to gain levels/karma/wxp but at least try to have some map awareness and Stunbreakers

….or else you’ll end up like these guys

RiverSong.5067:

I was running Edge Of The Mist for fragments to complete my armors (which i did, yay), and i came across something new to me. We got farmed. It became obvious anywhere the train went, there would be a zerg there waiting for us. People explained it thinking there was a spy doing this to annoy people.

While this is bad karma and you’ll go to hell for it, not much can be done about it. I’m just wondering, does he get anything out of this? Besides annoyed peoples? And is it common?

holy kitten. did you just say that people will go to hell for farming you in a PVP map??? holy kitten.

TBH, there was a guild, and they were bored. OR they were getting blobbed to death in their WvW matchup, and they wanted some fun.

WHY these people will go to hell for stopping your K train, I’m not sure, but i WILL be sure to take my guild farming in EOTM this week just so we can farm progress on Realm Avenger. Lord knows you only get 500 kills per rally in WVW proper, but if we go to EotM and float around the overflows, that can double or quadruple to 2k kills in a single rally.

I’m not gonna lie, its EOTM. you dont need a spy to tell where the zergs are. Any commander worth a lick of salt would be able to look at the map and know where you are anywhere you go as long as you capture everything that you touch. Being in EOTM, you WILL capture everything you touch, so you’re gonna get tracked and hunted down. like a deer, or some other kind of game that gets hunted.

When you’re in regular WvW, there are reasons that commanders will say stuff like, “ignore this sentry” or “dont kill this yak”. It’s because they’re trying to leave as little of a trail as possible. Players DO watch the map for every change, whether it be sentries moving and dying, yaks moving inside their camps, or yaks dying on their paths and gettin slapped.

Even if you’re not having fun getting farmed, the players that are farming you are having a blast. If we invent a law of conservation of fun, then everything is okay.

P.S. you’re a horrible judeo-christian if you actually believe or wish people will go to hell for farming your k train. grow up.

Looks like you guys really like having arrow carts on every gate. I hope I’m still Frost Reach…

hahah, the “trend” has always been there just that it is more common now

Just two days ago, I “raged” about fighting. We had small zerg and a plenty of players were already about to take next point, when commander coming a bit late-train turned around to fight a zerg. I checked from map where our players were: front was already at supply point east from airport, commander was just east from the bridge, enemy was in the airport. No stacking prior attack, our players were spread in a long train. Kind of worst case. Our base was at north, so our dead players have a long way to join the train again.

Just today one commander stacked us before zerg fights. That felt better. I’m learning, because I’m going to try commanding in eotm someday – so many times there are no commander.

Most populated color will often seek orange swords. Guild groups will often come here just for the kicks. It is ridiculously easy to zerg bust 3x or more your numbers when half or more of the opposing force is uplevels.

While it isn’t too difficult to figure out where a zerg is, sometimes I get the feeling it’s more than that. The other day there were 2 or 3 commanders off and on during the time I was playing. But there was one particular commander who seemed to end up wiping his group on a strangely regular basis. I and a couple of other WvW people joined his group at a gate. They were taking forever and getting sniped pretty hard. So we put up catas quickly and brought the door down to 10% or so. At that exact moment, the commander suddenly declared we were moving on and “would come back later.” Which was weird since we were about to bring down the door and there were fewer defenders than attackers. He then lead us over to the forge and got 25+ people to stand around doing nothing for about a minute until a zerg came in and smashed the group. He was either the worst commander ever or he was trolling pretty hard. Hard to believe he was quite that bad.