Guild Wars 2

As much as I hate to reiterate this topic, I feel like nightcapping is ruining wvw matches. This is FA’s nth week against TC, and most nights it’s this same issue (see image). Instead of fighting for first, CD and FA are fighting for second because it’s impossible to reach first when the nightly difference in points is over 400. There’s no possibly to make up that 400 difference in night, so servers in this dilemma have no chance to have a “fair” fight.

I don’t know what could fix this issue because telling players whom can only play at night that their time is not as worthy as daytime players sucks. But, in this current situation, day time players’ time isn’t as valuable as a nightly players’ time.

One idea that I did have was to have a neutral party (maybe skritt or centuar) capture towers/camps if there is a giant gap. Then, nightly players would have an opponent to fight against, while servers with small night presence wouldn’t be all capped in the morning.

All I will say is that it is pretty telling that your screenshot is not taken from inside a WvW map.

That wasn’t a night cap….

… that was a dolyak revenge cap.

Why does it matter if the SS is inside Wvw or not? The points remain the same whether one is inside wvw or not. I’m also on my lvl 58 alt; will you discredit a post for that, too?

FascistMuffin.2956:

Why does it matter if the SS is inside Wvw or not?

I think they’re saying that you’re online, and you obviously care about WvW, yet you’re not in WvW doing something about it.

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Also, tonight is special. Tonight a bunch of TC guilds all made a dedicated push to get FA down to 0 points. It’s not how TC usually works.

old news…. now, where is that “nightcapping and you” post. pin it back pls……

You just need to stomp ´em to the ground enough during daytime.

I’ve said a thousand times, a dynamic pop cap is needed.

I don’t understand how this “issue” can possibly be complained about. It isn’t even an issue at all. The war goes on 24 hours a day. That’s how it is.

Option 1:
Try to convince some Oceanic guilds to come to your server.

Option 2:
Dedicate your life to WvWvW and start sleeping during your daytime and playing during your nighttime. Get some of your buddies to do the same thing and BOOM you’ll have a nighttime population before you know it!

Option 3(required):
Get over it.

alohaTERRY.2547:

That wasn’t a night cap….

… that was a dolyak revenge cap.

This. See the top thread on the page atm. Anyways, most of the time TC is very light at night/oceanic times. We mostly do all we can just to hold what the rest got earlier that day. This night wasn’t normal, it was reckoning.

Also capping from 8:30 am to 5:30 pm is an issue because I cannot play.
oh I forget about saturday’s evening capping that should not be possible because I usually go out with my friends… /sarcasm

someone can play only when you are sleeping, why do you want to ruin their game experience limiting them?

TC was out in force for a particular reason today. I’m guessing after they accomplished their objective (of bringing FA to zero) they decided oh what the hell and went on to do it to CD as well. I’m pretty sure this doesn’t happen everyday. If we had this kind of margin everyday you won’t be seeing our damn faces for months on end because we’ll be in a higher tier.

Military tactics are used in WvWvW as most would expect. As such they are adapted to real life and implemented into the game. Thus, people will be in game at certain times, prime time or not, and play in shifts to cover all the hours of the day. Those are the tactics one would expect to guard or raid their areas.

Something else to remember we do not all work in the mornings (8am-5pm) and play at night. Some work odd hours, go to school in the evenings and play when they can. Those people in particular make up a large part of what you call “Night cappers” when in fact they just happen to be playing when they can and not with everyone else during so called “prime time”.

Also, The only time I have heard of a “cease fire” during a world war was during xmas in 1914, just a little tidbit to ponder.

- Real War is a full time job, WvW isn’t
- I would be 100 % bored to cap empty castles, and spawn camp the rest of the night at the enemys spawn
- Daytime won’t be close to a fair fight because the nightcap partys always build T3 Gates and Walls, so getting everything back is far more harder. And this happens every night.
- The coming update won’t help at all because: 1. The NPC event will be crushed by some siegeweapons or 2. The Towers at the spawn will be left for the 2 other partys on the map, that means 6 towers in total, 3 for each party. So only around 470 Points each tic instead of 500. Why would anyone care for that 30 points for each party.

ASP.8093:

FascistMuffin.2956:

Why does it matter if the SS is inside Wvw or not?

I think they’re saying that you’re online, and you obviously care about WvW, yet you’re not in WvW doing something about it.

Exactly. And its my experience that when one server does band together and cap out an enemy BL and EB, the enemy’s WvW numbers fall off completely because no-one wants to die repeatedly.

You are awake. There is a big button that says “Enter WvW”. You can do something about it other than complain here. You might say “But I’m only one person, there’s no-one else to help me re-cap/defend”, but it’s precisely that attitude that got you to +0 in the first place.

And this is coming from Kaineng, when we have frequently been +0 this week. We also had DRBL completely capped out earlier in the week when our motivation/morale/commander quality was high.

Good luck!

WvW is not a huge massive PvP anymore. Its all for points, EXPs, and KARMAs.. sad..

But they have 20 more people online at that hour. They deserve to gain a 30.000 point lead that night.

Xorn.6079:

WvW is not a huge massive PvP anymore. Its all for points, EXPs, and KARMAs.. sad..

I dont know about where you are from, but its CERTAINLY not that way in TC. From what I hear its not that way in FA or CD either.

The top 3-4 tiers arent just a “karma grind”

I have no idea how much karma my toons have, once they have gear for WvW then i dont look at it ever again(i will never make enough gold in wvw to make a legendary).
I care about current PPT and closing the gap on who ever is leading the score currently

Well that wasn’t even night capping.. that was you interupt our three server event revenge server destruction :P

Daendur.2357:

Also capping from 8:30 am to 5:30 pm is an issue because I cannot play.
oh I forget about saturday’s evening capping that should not be possible because I usually go out with my friends… /sarcasm

someone can play only when you are sleeping, why do you want to ruin their game experience limiting them?

Because World’s place in this game is beeing decided by the minority of players ( Night Team Group’s) instead of Majority ( NA and EU primetime).

That is the biggest issue of WvW in GW2 atm, imho.

Gamblit.5041:

Daendur.2357:

Also capping from 8:30 am to 5:30 pm is an issue because I cannot play.
oh I forget about saturday’s evening capping that should not be possible because I usually go out with my friends… /sarcasm

someone can play only when you are sleeping, why do you want to ruin their game experience limiting them?

Because World’s place in this game is beeing decided by the minority of players ( Night Team Group’s) instead of Majority ( NA and EU primetime).

That is the biggest issue of WvW in GW2 atm, imho.

Yes. Let’s create player limits at “night” that prevents the majority playing at that time to not out number the minority.

Azure Prower.8701:

Yes. Let’s create player limits at “night” that prevents the majority playing at that time to not out number the minority.

Instead of player limits — which will shut people out — it would be better to just have a dynamic scoring system. If there are fewer enemy players in WvW as a whole, then the total points available each tick should be lowered. This seems fair since you should get less credit for holding a keep against an empty map than you should for holding it against a full map of enemies. And it will have the consequence that primetimes count more towards the score total than overnight/daytime.

If some kind of dynamic scoring were implemented, then one nightcapping server could not make too much headway overnight while the opposing teams are sleeping. In all other ways, however — karma, money, badges — the experience overnight would be unaltered.

Azure Prower.8701:

Gamblit.5041:

Daendur.2357:

Also capping from 8:30 am to 5:30 pm is an issue because I cannot play.
oh I forget about saturday’s evening capping that should not be possible because I usually go out with my friends… /sarcasm

someone can play only when you are sleeping, why do you want to ruin their game experience limiting them?

Because World’s place in this game is beeing decided by the minority of players ( Night Team Group’s) instead of Majority ( NA and EU primetime).

That is the biggest issue of WvW in GW2 atm, imho.

Yes. Let’s create player limits at “night” that prevents the majority playing at that time to not out number the minority.

Night time groups is a minority. And half of them are not there by choice, they are beeing forced to do it in order for thier World to progress.

cbabd.8053:

Azure Prower.8701:

Yes. Let’s create player limits at “night” that prevents the majority playing at that time to not out number the minority.

Instead of player limits — which will shut people out — it would be better to just have a dynamic scoring system. If there are fewer enemy players in WvW as a whole, then the total points available each tick should be lowered. This seems fair since you should get less credit for holding a keep against an empty map than you should for holding it against a full map of enemies. And it will have the consequence that primetimes count more towards the score total than overnight/daytime.

If some kind of dynamic scoring were implemented, then one nightcapping server could not make too much headway overnight while the opposing teams are sleeping. In all other ways, however — karma, money, badges — the experience overnight would be unaltered.

I think they are heading i to the right direction atm. By having NPC’s replace missing players, they can force the the oposition to stay on the map instead of jumping around and capping everything.

i there are few ppl in wvw it is correct that world to go down in the rank.