Guild Wars 2

Already can say no Loyalty bonus pip if you’re not active for 3 weeks I’m assuming. Been in the same server since the start and only stopped playing Wvw about 3 months ago.

Just posted this in the bug section, same here and a lot of people on my server were saying the same

It probably comes active next match up reset.

Offair.2563:

It probably comes active next match up reset.

not quite, people are already getting these and some that have merely been on that server for a few weeks…

Then it might be a bug. I mean unintendend feature.

just curious are you on linked server not the “main” one ?

I’m on a main server, have been for over two years and not getting any loyalty pips as well. Can a developer please share if this is intended or a bug?

Second this. I have been on the same server for 3 years and been playing WvW on and off.
Getting no loyalty bonus.

been on this server for several months, no loyalty bonus, none of my friends or guilds on this or other servers are getting it either.

At about 6 hours of playing. Thats a loss of 72 pips already.

Blades Of Fatalis.1279:

been on this server for several months, no loyalty bonus, none of my friends or guilds on this or other servers are getting it either.

Which means everyone has to wait 3 weeks which is rather rotten.

I’d understand if you were on the server for more than 3 weeks, but haven’t actually played wvw. Are you really loyal if you haven’t since server is meaningless in pve. That said, I didn’t look at my pips to see if I got the +1 when I was on…

Heck, I’ve been on the same server since GW2 beta. I should get at least 5000 pips.

Dev posted on the thread in the bugs forum.

“We need to update the loyalty pip description. You need to earn at least 3 wood chests for 3 weeks to be considered loyal. "

I’d imagine it’ll kick in once the first 3 weeks are over from the 6th onward.

What I’ll never get is that you Anet guys are terrible at giving informations to your player base.
You tell us about a new patch one week prior to it. And don’t even give us interesting details when the patch hits.

We have to figure out everything ourselves, not being sure if it’s bugged or working as intended.

That’s a ridiculous thing to say when McKenna has just given you information two posts up.

Maybe it’s not as prompt as you’d like, but you sure as hell didn’t have to figure that out for yourself.

Ben K.6238:

That’s a ridiculous thing to say when McKenna has just given you information two posts up.

Maybe it’s not as prompt as you’d like, but you sure as hell didn’t have to figure that out for yourself.

Someone posted it on bug forum. That’s why there was an answer. Why isn’t there any patch notes when they put out a “major” wvw patch?

There was no info about how to get the armor, what requirements, and how the loyalty rewards work, etc.
That’s just lazy compared to other companies where developers often talk to their playerbase.
The wvw playerbase is ignored since the HoT release and now we have to ask for every single detail?

The information at the beginning of this week was that if one transferred on the 1st, they’d start earning pips on the 9th. Not really pertaining to loyalty, but it made it seem like it did, therefore, the general assumption was that if you hadn’t transferred in the 3 weeks prior to the 1st, you were considered loyal to wherever you were.

Some people never transferred off their original server and are in fact loyal to a fault, those people really shouldn’t have to wait with the others that transferred this week, jumping thru additional time hoops or participation hoops to prove their loyalty.

so the punishing for transfering to a stacked server for WvW is basically only 1 week ??

seems really low to me considering that everyone would rather be earning +3 pips for the many many many weeks needed to complete the backpiece instead of +1 pip for server placment

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Orangensaft.7139:

so the punishing for transfering to a stacked server for WvW is basically only 1 week ??

seems really low to me considering that everyone would rather be earning +3 pips for the many many many weeks needed to complete the backpiece instead of +1 pip for server placment

The punishment for transferring to a stacked server is that you get no pips at all for the week in which you transfer and if I’m reading this right, that your Loyalty flag will reset and you’ll need to do your 3 weeks again.

The pips that you get from winning, for an entrenched player, are actually fairly minimal and somewhat inconsistent. Even Blackgate doesn’t win every skirmish. Even then, if you are on an overstacked server, you can’t earn pips while you’re queued- and if you’re against an overstacked server, Outmanned is still the biggest individual pip contributor you can have until you hit Mithril ranks.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

got more than 75 pips, the loyalty pip still didnt pop up.

Aury.1367:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

got more than 75 pips, the loyalty pip still didnt pop up.

Now continue that for 2 more weeks as it says.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

How do I participate if I cannot even get on the borderlands? Queues everywhere.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 75+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

Given that some PIPS are based on rank why is that lower ranked players need to show more loyalty (in terms of time in WvW) than higher ranked players? Surely loyalty should be the same for everyone irrelevant of rank?

Is the loyalty bonus locked in once we get 100+ pips for 3 weeks in a row, or is it “earned 100+ pips each of the last 3 weeks on the current world”

Aka, Can I play 100+ pips for 3 weeks. Then take a week off, then come back and still have my loyalty bonus?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

I dont agree with that i’m sorry.

Just being on the same server for 3 weeks should net you the bonus pip.

Azukas.1426:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

I dont agree with that i’m sorry.

Just being on the same server for 3 weeks should net you the bonus pip.

I agree. It was supposed to discourage transfers, not stop people from taking a week off. Please change this.

Skinnii.3504:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 75+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

Given that some PIPS are based on rank why is that lower ranked players need to show more loyalty (in terms of time in WvW) than higher ranked players? Surely loyalty should be the same for everyone irrelevant of rank?

You bring up an excellent point. Someone at diamond rank is earning 4+ more pips per tick than someone who is below rank 1,395. That’s a significant amount of pips, especially considering that someone below rank 1,395 could be earning at max 10 pips per tick, and that’s assuming their server is winning the skirmish and that they have the loyalty bonus, are commanding a 5+ man squad and are also outnumbered.

Also, I agree with Azukas, simply not transferring off the server for 3 weeks should be enough to grant you a bonus pip. Maybe we could have another bonus pip for active loyalty, where you earned at least 100 pips for 3 weeks, and maybe that one could even stack up to 5 or 10 bonus pips?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

Chiming in that I also think it’s ridiculous that you lose the loyalty bonus after acquiring it if you miss a week. Punished for going on vacation and not playing GW2, nice! Guess I’m lucky I already took my week off this year.

Do you know how long it takes to get 100 pips each week?

If I was only getting 4 pips the whole time (highly unlikely for a veteran player) that’s just over 2 hours a week. If I was only in WvW that much, I’d consider that a week off anyway.

Friggarn.9451:

Azukas.1426:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

I dont agree with that i’m sorry.

Just being on the same server for 3 weeks should net you the bonus pip.

I agree. It was supposed to discourage transfers, not stop people from taking a week off. Please change this.

I guess they meant loyalty to the game/game mode and not your server. At least there is still Outnumbered?

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

that is an absolutely terrible way to work it.
That discourages people who can’t guarantee they can play every week.

It makes wvw too needy. Like those tournys that you (anet) likes to claim caused massive drop off in wvw player numbers.

also the maths in this thread regarding how much difference that 1 pip/tick can make..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6fuzz3/so_youre_brand_new_to_wvw_and_want_to_know_how/

the TL;DR:
Anet failed to deliver the server loyalty reward that was hyped.
Anet delivered a mechanic to increase wvw burnout.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

“need to do all 3 again” ??

Please say that will change… seriously, being a die hard wvw player 2800+ wxp points, wvw is pretty much all I do.. but there are times when I can’t get on a lot… so if I don’t get what I need in that allotted time then I lose what I gained?

Already I feel the apathy rolling back in. Come in to the game for some fun and definitely try to ignore this pip stuff etc. The last thing I need is to feel like I’m being penalized because I took a bit of time off. Between the time and the thousands of dollars over the last 5 years that I’ve spent in here.. it’s kind of disheartening.

OriOri.8724:

Skinnii.3504:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 75+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

Given that some PIPS are based on rank why is that lower ranked players need to show more loyalty (in terms of time in WvW) than higher ranked players? Surely loyalty should be the same for everyone irrelevant of rank?

You bring up an excellent point. Someone at diamond rank is earning 4+ more pips per tick than someone who is below rank 1,395. That’s a significant amount of pips, especially considering that someone below rank 1,395 could be earning at max 10 pips per tick, and that’s assuming their server is winning the skirmish and that they have the loyalty bonus, are commanding a 5+ man squad and are also outnumbered.

Also, I agree with Azukas, simply not transferring off the server for 3 weeks should be enough to grant you a bonus pip. Maybe we could have another bonus pip for active loyalty, where you earned at least 100 pips for 3 weeks, and maybe that one could even stack up to 5 or 10 bonus pips?

I think 3 weeks is too short to decrease the bandwagoning to another server.

The loyalty-bonus pips should be in several stages:

3 weeks on the same server -> 1 pip
6 weeks on the same server -> 2 pips
9 weeks on the same server -> 3 pips
12 weeks on the same server -> 4 pips
15 weeks on the same server -> 5 pips

Artemis Thuras.8795:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

that is an absolutely terrible way to work it.
That discourages people who can’t guarantee they can play every week.

It makes wvw too needy. Like those tournys that you (anet) likes to claim caused massive drop off in wvw player numbers.

also the maths in this thread regarding how much difference that 1 pip/tick can make..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6fuzz3/so_youre_brand_new_to_wvw_and_want_to_know_how/

the TL;DR:
Anet failed to deliver the server loyalty reward that was hyped.
Anet delivered a mechanic to increase wvw burnout.

How about if ANet called it a “Commitment Booster” instead of a “Loyalty Bonus”. As many in WvW have asked for, it rewards those who spend more time more consistently.

A “Loyalty Bonus” might also be a good thing, but that doesn’t mean ANet failed to deliver; it just means it’s not to everyone’s liking.

Zok.4956:

OriOri.8724:

Skinnii.3504:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 75+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

Given that some PIPS are based on rank why is that lower ranked players need to show more loyalty (in terms of time in WvW) than higher ranked players? Surely loyalty should be the same for everyone irrelevant of rank?

You bring up an excellent point. Someone at diamond rank is earning 4+ more pips per tick than someone who is below rank 1,395. That’s a significant amount of pips, especially considering that someone below rank 1,395 could be earning at max 10 pips per tick, and that’s assuming their server is winning the skirmish and that they have the loyalty bonus, are commanding a 5+ man squad and are also outnumbered.

Also, I agree with Azukas, simply not transferring off the server for 3 weeks should be enough to grant you a bonus pip. Maybe we could have another bonus pip for active loyalty, where you earned at least 100 pips for 3 weeks, and maybe that one could even stack up to 5 or 10 bonus pips?

I think 3 weeks is too short to decrease the bandwagoning to another server.

The loyalty-bonus pips should be in several stages:

3 weeks on the same server -> 1 pip
6 weeks on the same server -> 2 pips
9 weeks on the same server -> 3 pips
12 weeks on the same server -> 4 pips
15 weeks on the same server -> 5 pips

Yea, that’s what I meant. Reward both short and long term loyalty with the bonus pips.

OriOri.8724:

Zok.4956:

OriOri.8724:

Skinnii.3504:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 75+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

Given that some PIPS are based on rank why is that lower ranked players need to show more loyalty (in terms of time in WvW) than higher ranked players? Surely loyalty should be the same for everyone irrelevant of rank?

You bring up an excellent point. Someone at diamond rank is earning 4+ more pips per tick than someone who is below rank 1,395. That’s a significant amount of pips, especially considering that someone below rank 1,395 could be earning at max 10 pips per tick, and that’s assuming their server is winning the skirmish and that they have the loyalty bonus, are commanding a 5+ man squad and are also outnumbered.

Also, I agree with Azukas, simply not transferring off the server for 3 weeks should be enough to grant you a bonus pip. Maybe we could have another bonus pip for active loyalty, where you earned at least 100 pips for 3 weeks, and maybe that one could even stack up to 5 or 10 bonus pips?

I think 3 weeks is too short to decrease the bandwagoning to another server.

The loyalty-bonus pips should be in several stages:

3 weeks on the same server -> 1 pip
6 weeks on the same server -> 2 pips
9 weeks on the same server -> 3 pips
12 weeks on the same server -> 4 pips
15 weeks on the same server -> 5 pips

Yea, that’s what I meant. Reward both short and long term loyalty with the bonus pips.

I moved servers after three years because of massive bullying.

Anet ignores all bullying, ergo many (or quit) move because of it.

So we’re going to be abused yet again, by anet, because anet won’t stop the incredibly immature people who harm other’s reputations?

Rewards for loyalty should be to the game, not to a server where one puts heart and soul into it but bullies get the last word….. Bullies win.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Artemis Thuras.8795:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

that is an absolutely terrible way to work it.
That discourages people who can’t guarantee they can play every week.

It makes wvw too needy. Like those tournys that you (anet) likes to claim caused massive drop off in wvw player numbers.

also the maths in this thread regarding how much difference that 1 pip/tick can make..

https://www.reddit.com/r/Guildwars2/comments/6fuzz3/so_youre_brand_new_to_wvw_and_want_to_know_how/

the TL;DR:
Anet failed to deliver the server loyalty reward that was hyped.
Anet delivered a mechanic to increase wvw burnout.

How about if ANet called it a “Commitment Booster” instead of a “Loyalty Bonus”. As many in WvW have asked for, it rewards those who spend more time more consistently.

A “Loyalty Bonus” might also be a good thing, but that doesn’t mean ANet failed to deliver; it just means it’s not to everyone’s liking.

Call it what you like.
Ultimately it’s the same thing. Enslaved to wvw, or lose/take longer to get the same loot.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

How the hell do you guys manage to screw up such simple concepts so badly (Especially after hyping them?)

Sartharina.3542:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

How the hell do you guys manage to screw up such simple concepts so badly (Especially after hyping them?)

I think the only mistake they did was to name it “loyalty” bonus. Should have just named it activity bonus. 100 pips in a week is less than 2 hours of WvW @ 5 pips gain. Thats what most WvWers will do in an evening. Its not really a big deal maintaining that.

Dawdler.8521:

Sartharina.3542:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

How the hell do you guys manage to screw up such simple concepts so badly (Especially after hyping them?)

I think the only mistake they did was to name it “loyalty” bonus. Should have just named it activity bonus. 100 pips in a week is less than 2 hours of WvW @ 5 pips gain. Thats what most WvWers will do in an evening. Its not really a big deal maintaining that.

It’s also potentially 8+ hours. 8+ hours that you have to put in every single week without fail or you lose that pip for 3 weeks.

Artemis Thuras.8795:

It’s also potentially 8+ hours. 8+ hours that you have to put in every single week without fail or you lose that pip for 3 weeks.

Well thats what activity by definition is…

But granted, I suppose it depend on the players. I can definetly see a situation with many guilds complaining about this when they are standing AFK in spawn for an hour or more waiting for the raidleader, heaven forbid they actually have to work for extra loot.

Do we know how many pips are awarded for this loyalty bonus?

Draeyon.4392:

Do we know how many pips are awarded for this loyalty bonus?

as far as us players know, it’s +1/tick. but that could change, or the UI could be wrong on that too.

It may not sound like a lot, but it’ll shave a lot of time off how long it takes to get your 175 tickets in a week. Especially for those who aren’t ranked into the thousands.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

OK there’s a little confusion on this.
So lets say, for clarity sake, that you go the three weeks, earn the Wood Chest rewards, get the loyalty pip. Will the loyalty pip stay for good unless you transfer to another server, or do you have to continue earning that chest week after week, and if you miss a week of play, then it resets and you have to do the 3 weeks all over again?

@McKenna -

I’d recommend that you provide both a loyalty to server bonus and a loyalty to WvW game type bonus for PIPs. It satisfies both crowds and you can take it away from potential Outnumbered PIPs earned if the potential PIP gain is too high if that is even needed.

You have to admit, it is odd though that players that WvW consistently (the casuals to the vets) for the past 3 weeks didn’t start with the loyalty to WvW game type bonus (basically anyone that counted to WvW population).

In hindsight, this is especially odd since Tuesday through Friday (both shortened days) this first week means now is the real time to give dedicated players the bonus.

Question: What happens to my WvW game-type play loyalty bonus if I take 10 days off from electronics for my vacation in August? Do I lose the bonus PIP for a minimum of 3 weeks when I return? Or is the PIP bonus formula based on some farther look back?

Thanks in advance if you respond with some clarity.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

Sarrs.4831:

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

We need to update the loyalty pip description.

You need to earn at least 75 pips for 3 weeks in a row to earn the loyalty bonus. We wanted players to have to participate in skirmishes to be considered loyal.

Hello, I’m not quite clear on this.

So you need to get
75+ pips on week 1
75+ pips on week 2
75+ pips on week 3

And then so long as you remain on the server, you will get the loyalty bonus?
Or will the streak reset if you miss a week, and you need to do all 3 again?

Needing to earn 100+ pips weeks 1, 2 and 3 is correct. If you miss a week you will need to do all 3 again.

*Edit: It should be 100 pips not 75. So you need to complete all of Wood Tier for 3 weeks.

So for instance I have a vacation coming up and will be away from the game, I am going to have to start all over? Or another example I work somewhere where I can be called away for an emergency response and not have access to this game, I will lose my Loyalty when I come back due to those real life obligations? Despite the fact someone has spent time on their server or primarily spends their time in the game participating in WvW they can then be penalized for events such as those?

I have to admit I am more than just disappointed at this.