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Posted by: Deified.7520

Deified.7520

So I was watching the state of the game video, and I got the impression that when they balance things, they do it based on things they find in sPvP. I’m not so sure about this since the “interviewers” were mostly spvpers, but it seems the the things they were talking about in PvP doesn’t apply to WvW in terms of class balance.

Do you guys think the same thing?

I mean I see a heavy one sided meta game in WvW now a days. Engineers are a rare breed and I see many thiefs and elementalist. Warriors doing 20k+ kill shots (hard to dodge those in a huge zerg battles) and just an absence of some core classes.

To put it into perspective my guild has about 18 dedicate WvWers and 6 of those are thiefs. Another 5 are elementalist. 3 of those thiefs made thiefs specifically for WvW and use their mains for anything other than WvW. 2 of the elementalist are the same way. I’m the only active Engineer WvWer out of our 100+ guild (we have about 6 other full time engineers that are more PvE or sPvP). I’m starting to lean towards another class to level up to WvW with. I really don’t want to go thiefs because I feel they might get nerfed or changed (the way stealth works mostly), but they are still very tempting with their high damage out put and advantages with culling. Rangers are also very temping for their long range.

I’m wondering if they should start treating WvW like sPvP where they have balance things put into place that only affect the WvW aspect. What do you all think?

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Posted by: dunnberry.2964

dunnberry.2964

Stick with engineer! We rule!

Borlis Pass
Asuran Engineer (Lost)

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

Junkpile.7439

Do we even play same game? Haven’t seen riffle warrior since beta.

Low quality trolling since launch
Seafarer’s Rest EotM grinch

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Posted by: lepri.6504

lepri.6504

wvw is where engineer have a chance to shine. aoe spam you know. we are even nerfed for that because anet thinks we are too powerfull

Blacktide>>Yafes>>Asura Engineer

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Posted by: Juan Ignacio.8903

Juan Ignacio.8903

most of the builds that u mention if not all they dont work in spvp in fact if u see a longbow ranger or a rifle warrior u know he has 0 clue of the game or he is trolling, spvp and wvw are 2 different things.. waaaaaaaaaay different. Lets see a double endure pain warrior in wvw can make disasters and survive a lot and kills lots of ppl , in spvp he has to give up a lot and it just doesnt work, or thieves for example they are really really good in wvw becouse u can escape easly but in top tpvp yeah they are not that good they good but not as good as a dd s/d elly, trap ranger, guardian.
Engies do have a lot of burst but u have to be rigth on top of the dude to do the 100nades thingy.
Oh and i forgot tpvp has the same mode the last 6months and its not even close to the wvw changes that they made (for good or bad obviuosly), im almost rank 45 in spvp im not bragging or anything it just shows that i played a lot over there and i have somewhat an idea.

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Posted by: Deified.7520

Deified.7520

most of the builds that u mention if not all they dont work in spvp in fact if u see a longbow ranger or a rifle warrior u know he has 0 clue of the game or he is trolling, spvp and wvw are 2 different things.. waaaaaaaaaay different. Lets see a double endure pain warrior in wvw can make disasters and survive a lot and kills lots of ppl , in spvp he has to give up a lot and it just doesnt work, or thieves for example they are really really good in wvw becouse u can escape easly but in top tpvp yeah they are not that good they good but not as good as a dd s/d elly, trap ranger, guardian.
Engies do have a lot of burst but u have to be rigth on top of the dude to do the 100nades thingy.
Oh and i forgot tpvp has the same mode the last 6months and its not even close to the wvw changes that they made (for good or bad obviuosly), im almost rank 45 in spvp im not bragging or anything it just shows that i played a lot over there and i have somewhat an idea.

Honestly I haven’t seen any large changes to class balance since I think 2 patches ago. They seem to be concentrating on mostly small things/bug fixes. I know they are 2 totally separate things, but the main question I had is that should WvW be considered separate from the rest of the game like sPvP is. Should they make only WvW changes to classes to balance classes out in WvW? I feel kinda both ways on this because it takes a lot of work to balance these classes in 3 different ways. I was playing some sPvP earlier today and was destroying some thiefs one on one with my engy, so I can understand how WvW based things simply don’t work in s/tPvP.

As a side note, engineers are alright in WvW. The grenades are kinda good, but not the best from what I’ve seen (in terms of DPS). They seem to specialize in large AoE dps, so if its a close range fight they don’t see to do that well against a skilled player. Plus it’s a really boring spec.