Guild Wars 2

inb4 adam jensen quote

I think you getting your knickers in a twist, because most complains are about bloodlust and lag – and those two where never asked to be introduced – from what I read, new area seems to please people quiet well – its the buff the issue.

Xenn.3809:

I think you getting your knickers in a twist, because most complains are about bloodlust and lag – and those two where never asked to be introduced – from what I read, new area seems to please people quiet well – its the buff the issue.

Most I have read are people who want to completely revert back to how it was. Must have seen different posts, maybe I was in the train v train threads too much?

Btw, knickers aren’t in a twist. They’re folded neatly. However, my panties are in a bunch. Mind helping me with that?

Let’s see what Bloodlust update accomplished:

Chopps.5047:

a) splitting the zerg

Bwahahaha…nope.

Chopps.5047:

b) making engi and ranger viable

The whole roaming got bumped up in “server effort usefulness”, so isn’t exactely “Ranger and Engi”. But i’ll agree on this.

Chopps.5047:

c) possibly cut down on spam and thus skill lag

Skill lag has been arguably worse since patch. And even if skill spamming is (do it?) reduced, it’s compensated by the insane calculations due to the buff check/apply every few sec to 2k targets.

Chopps.5047:

Btw, knickers aren’t in a twist. They’re folded neatly. However, my panties are in a bunch. Mind helping me with that?

Sure, go commando from now on.

we never asked for orbs to be brought back did we? i dont think so.

We didn’t ask for “this”.

We asked for a balancing mechanism and they provided something that does the opposite lumped along with some good things.

After, I might add, it was explicitly, redundantly, and quite vocally opposed, both by the current player base and the Ghosts of Devs Past.

Chopps.5047:

Let’s go back in time, shall we?

“ANET BUST UP THE ZEEEEERGS”

“ZERG COMBAT SUXORS”

“JUST ZERG AND SPAM 1”

I’m paraphrasing comments from launch, post orb, when everyone wanted the zergs broken up.

“ANET can’t balance to make ranger and engi viable in wvw”

Ranger and engi are, for the most part, fine in spvp though.

Hmmm…I got it! Let’s add spvp elements to wvw to try

a) splitting the zerg
b) making engi and ranger viable
c) possibly cut down on spam and thus skill lag

So now the community gets their wishes: something that will try to address A, B, and C. And what do you guys do on the forums?

My point exactly: you are an impossible lot to make happy.

That is all.

Wait what?

Zerging has been made easier and easier, and is simply the most rewarding way to play. With these map changes there are more treb/cata spots that are hard to counter. And Ram Mastery, brilliant idea, stack up a zerg and take 50% reduced damage.
Lines up nicely with defending just being unrewarding, just zerg on and recap whatever is lost.

Dont want to follow the zerg? Here’s Conquest mode. You’re now with one foot in sPvP anyway.
I dont want to play sPvP, or its lame Conquest mode. WvW is now either a zergballfest moreso then it was ever before. And more boring then it ever was.
Dont like that? Well your alternative is Conquest mode.

I feel like im being led by the hand in the direction of doing sPvP.

Actually people have been begging for an Orb replacement for months and month. Not just a few people either, massive threads with dev posts and everything.

Also, you cannot pretend to know if bloodlust will break-up zergs yet. The new meta has not been established yet. Zerging the ruins is woefully inefficient. Why do they do it? Because people are creatures of habit, and the meta needs time to change.

So take advantage of it! There is a lot of opportunity to be had while people are being stupid about the ruins. Is the enemy zerging the ruins? Take a stab at a keep. If they all break off to stop you, leave 5 people behind to take the ruins. If they don’t break off to stop you, free keep!

I agree and was just about to post the same thing, it bears repeating:

>Also, you cannot pretend to know if bloodlust will break-up zergs yet. The new meta has not been established yet. Zerging the ruins is woefully inefficient. Why do they do it? Because people are creatures of habit, and the meta needs time to change.

I will focus on bugs and things that make this patch not so enjoyable.

1. Lag
2. Offline party member can’t be kicked in wvw, w/c must be done by re-partying,

Sovereign.1093:

I will focus on bugs and things that make this patch not so enjoyable.

1. Lag
2. Offline party member can’t be kicked in wvw, w/c must be done by re-partying,

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1. I think they just patched that (not home to check if it worked).
https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/info/updates/Game-Update-Notes-September-17-2013/first#post2868922

2. Always been there…

Last night we had a group of about 15. We had all 3 buffs on. We were at a camp and about 15 of the enemy stacked up and charged towards us.

I’ve never seen a group wipe so fast – I don’t think any of them even reached us. I didn’t even see their health going down just one second they’re running towards us the next second they’re all downed.

OP buff is OP

Solstice.1097:

Last night we had a group of about 15. We had all 3 buffs on. We were at a camp and about 15 of the enemy stacked up and charged towards us.

I’ve never seen a group wipe so fast – I don’t think any of them even reached us. I didn’t even see their health going down just one second they’re running towards us the next second they’re all downed.

OP buff is OP

I’ve seen that more times than I can count, long before this patch. There are so many variables when it comes to any random 15 v 15. How do you know the buff did it?

FYI mods: joey is a handle not a name. His gw2 account name is joey.1234 or whatever. I should email about this but I’m lazy and it’s easier to post here. Later on, nice thread while it lasted.