Guild Wars 2

Anyone seeing a sudden jump in DPS in WvW? Prior to 2 weeks ago things seemed normal but now I am getting hit for over 8k damage now the last couple days from thieves and a few rangers. I checked the math and did someone figure out how to get 12k Power? I’ve seen 2k normal attacks and 4-8k for abilities. Are people just hitting the top end gear now?

It could be from people reaching level 80 and/or getting better gear. As the game gets older, I’ve been seeing a lot more 80s jumping into the fight with high end gear. It could also be a result of your gear being inferior (can’t say for certain since I don’t know your build or gear).

I can crit for about 2k++ on my auto attack if I stay above 1000 range on my longbow. Also Orb buff might have added another 50/100/150 stat points to whoever is owning them.

I’ve been 80 for over 3 weeks an wearing complete rare set of gear with 99% world exploration full pvp spec. Normally I would be getting hit for 400-800 for normal autoattack damage but now I have Thief players hitting for 2k on auto attack (effectively double dps now). I ran the math from what I could find and using some guildies a thief needs just shy 12k power… I can’t even find a way to stack 12k power counting food and oils. Even a full set of Seal gear doesn’t get close to that… very odd the sudden jump from 2 weeks ago.

I honestly don’t know, then. Thieves normally tear me apart, so I hadn’t really noticed. Someone could have just figured out a good Thief DPS build, and its just now getting adopted. Beyond that, I have no idea.

Thief burst builds are nothing new, check out their forums for more info.
Crits of 6-8k are pretty easy on a very low toughness target. Throw the 50% damage on next attack sigil in there and well… you can see where I’m going.
The requirement for that kind of damage is a dagger build with a good crit damage gear stack. You then need to get behind your victim while in stealth.

Edit: to address your last question. Yes I’ve finished my orange DPS set on my thief, sure plenty of others also have full orange by now. Highest crit I’ve seen on a no toughness clothie that was below lvl 80 without 50% damage sigil was just over 10k with a food buff.

Does it tell you in combat log if it is a critical? Because nothing I saw in the combat log said critical, if it does then we are talking 8k non-crits against 2500 toughness.

Idgarad.6105:

Anyone seeing a sudden jump in DPS in WvW? Prior to 2 weeks ago things seemed normal but now I am getting hit for over 8k damage now the last couple days from thieves and a few rangers. I checked the math and did someone figure out how to get 12k Power? I’ve seen 2k normal attacks and 4-8k for abilities. Are people just hitting the top end gear now?

One mistake you’re making here. You’re assuming that all of the damage increase comes from power. Thieves have lots of talents that increase damage by a percentage. Off the top of my head, in one build you could have:

+10% damage if your enemy has a condition
+1% damage per initiative (up to 15%)
+5% damage if you’re behind your target
+5% damage with a given weapon

So with all of those traits, they could be up to +35% damage passive bonus. You could also throw in a Sigil of Superior Force on the weapon for another +5%. This could explain the high autoattack hits, although they’d still need tons of power to get that high and I haven’t done the math.

I know since I got my full set of exotics on my warrior my burst damage output (with fury and might stacking from teammates) is huge. I know i didn’t care about getting the right stats until I was fully leveled up on my gear and i’m sure that was the way for most people. Many burst builds were likely wasting stats on healing or conditions where that isn’t really needed in the build at all.