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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Hello all,

I would kindly like to ask for an official response about the issue with porting entire servers from Citadel into a contested Garrison on a servers Homeborderland. Basically if you have a Mesmer that gets out of combat in the Garrison he can put down a portal in the “garage” and waypoint into citadel. In there, there is a specific spot where the portal can be opened and the entire defending zerg that got wiped out can be back in 1 second.

Specially our german servers do this very much and people wont believe it is an exploit until I can link a response from the ArenaNet team.
I recall to have read something about it, but I cant find anything.

An official response would be highly appreciated, as it could enhance fairplay along many servers.
If anybody knows a thread with the same topic, please link it.

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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

Unofficial explaination:

This is not an exploit. Just emergent gameplay.

You can portal directly from immunity areas not only to garrison but to your borderland east and west towers. You can portal from immunity areas right into enemy groups as well as long as they are within portal’s range.

It requires the awareness and coordination of the server to be able to do it, if people don’t know the portal is going to be there no one is going to be there to take it. Portal has a decently long cooldown as well and a limit of porting 20 people per portal. If you suspect this is an exploit, you can email exploits at arena dot net. I would just chalk it up to home field advantage.

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

This could sound plausible, but I dont believe it is intended to waypointport 100ppl without any counter to it into a contested keep from inside the spawn.

So while I appreciate your input, I would much rather like to know what ArenaNet thinks about this in a thread that I can link in occasions where this question gets asked again. Because the more popular it gets, the more doubts this “tactic” will generate.

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

This could sound plausible, but I dont believe it is intended to waypointport 100ppl without any counter to it into a contested keep from inside the spawn.

So while I appreciate your input, I would much rather like to know what ArenaNet thinks about this in a thread that I can link in occasions where this question gets asked again. Because the more popular it gets, the more doubts this “tactic” will generate.

20. Portals have a 20 person cap. You need to organize a handful of mesmers to get 100 across. It’s a tool of the trade, that’s all.

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Well, there will be mesmers opening their own portals on the other side. But this wasnt the point. I want to know if it is a legit tactic and I feel like somebody should answer this question.

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

Well, there will be mesmers opening their own portals on the other side. But this wasnt the point. I want to know if it is a legit tactic and I feel like somebody should answer this question.

Yes. Yes it is.

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Well, thank you for your opinion. But is it in terms of ANet seeing it as working as intended?
If yes, could you please link me a developer saying so?

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Posted by: Shadow.3475

Shadow.3475

There is a limit distances a mesmer can do a portal so if you can from spawn to 1 keep it feels like a bug. You cant do from Cliff side to Garrison and that is closer.

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

There is a limit distances a mesmer can do a portal so if you can from spawn to 1 keep it feels like a bug. You cant do from Cliff side to Garrison and that is closer.

No it’s not, it isn’t nearly as close. From the far south inside Citadel you’re a LOT closer to Garry.

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Posted by: Sitkaz.5463

Sitkaz.5463

So, a portal from the invulnerable spawn point into the garri? That does sound like stretching things a bit. I would have thought wp’ing would end the portal entre/exeunt link.

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

So, a portal from the invulnerable spawn point into the garri? That does sound like stretching things a bit. I would have thought wp’ing would end the portal entre/exeunt link.

No, dying or leaving the zone break the link, a simple waypoint doesn’t, nor should it.

It’s really not an issue. If you’re taking an enemy Garrison, that’s an area you should be paying attention to to cut off or minimize reinforcements. If a mesmer goes there all you need to do is keep him in combat and he can’t waypoint. You need to be doing a good job at not paying attention to get bit there during a large fight. It’s an advantage every server has to help hold their home borderland, specifically the northern section which by design should be easier to defend.

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Posted by: gaspara.4079

gaspara.4079

This will only be a problem if people learn a way to get from citadel down into garrison alive to make said portal past outer wall. Otherwise they still have to get through outer to set this up and have mesmers out of combat dedicated to this strategy.

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Posted by: Immolator.5640

Immolator.5640

Imo porting from spawn into a keep is stretching the limits of tactics into exploiting, it shouldn’t really be possible. And yes it does sound like something a german server would do.

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Any chance of getting an official response here?
I mean please…

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Posted by: Limm.8401

Limm.8401

It’s not even an issue. Portals are death-traps; especially when the enemy knows they are coming. They can only get 20 ppl in and they’ll be stacked tightly and have little idea where you are waiting for them. In this case the portal is even in a position that makes them appear with the back against the wall. Throw down some heavy CC and AoE and everything is fine. You got yourselves 20 free kills.

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Posted by: Topher.1684

Topher.1684

Anet will almost never reply to these kinds of posts.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/rules

Do not engage in staff call-outs. Using the words “ArenaNet” or any staff member’s name will not expedite the answer to your query.

Do not post petitions, “I demand an answer” threads, conspiracy threads, or comments about circumventing the rules.

They can’t possibly reply to every single post asking for answers…not to mention this is like the um-tenth post about this subject.

On the matter of the OP, if your server isn’t aware or able to stop Mesmers from doing this, this is a L2P issue. It’s akin to complaints about Mesmers porting in allies cuz your side forgot to sweep, or didn’t sweep well enough.

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Posted by: Zumy.6318

Zumy.6318

Mate, I want my server to stop doing it, not other people. I dont care what other people do.

About L2P in Zergfights: lol.

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Posted by: Shoe.5821

Shoe.5821

Do people seriously think this is a legitimate tactic? All those walls exist for a reason, and so does the portal block.

if you were intended to be able to go from the citadel to the garrison the cliff would be a lot lower.

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Posted by: VOLKON.1290

VOLKON.1290

Do people seriously think this is a legitimate tactic? All those walls exist for a reason, and so does the portal block.

if you were intended to be able to go from the citadel to the garrison the cliff would be a lot lower.

Walls? Since when have walls ever been an issue to portals? The only issue is being able to get to both sides of the wall, that’s all.

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