Guild Wars 2

Daxter.4286:

Amazing fights at Arbor borderlands today! So much back and forth action against arborstone. I hope you guys liked our small strike team flipping your camps for hours on end.

I spend most of my time on Deso borderlands (I’ve got all the placenames memorised, going to other borders confuses me!) and the same thing was happening to us there. Groups of AS or BT would raid camps, stock up on supplies and attack somewhere.

I just want to say a big well-done to the commanders on there who’ve kept things organised and anticipated the attacks well. Aside from BT getting some golems inside outer Garrison (which was fun) everything was well-held when I was on.

Definitely amazing huge battles near Woodhaven tonight on Arborstone Borderlands, Really really good fight! It just seemed like you guys kept coming in endless waves!

Edit: Had both Deso and Arbor borderlands completely red tonight and nearly all of Blacktide. Time to go to sleep!

Vukanigia.5496:

Desolation was all about RUIN, after they left you break apart. Now you are in tier 2 cos of KAZ guild, after they left your server you will go back to t4. Well i don’t wanna be unfair, you have IRON guild but one guild can’t carry whole server. So don’t speak me about awesome server with awesome spirit.

We lost most of Xaoc power and many other guilds but we are still fighting, Blacktide is not that soft as Desolation is, need more then one guild to drop us down.

We also got invited by one of your top guilds to join Desolation and i don’t c nothing bad in that. People are fighting on the field and on green table to improve their server… Desolation people should know that more then any other….

You shouldn’t be aloud on the Internet with moronic posts like that

wezlaar.7285:

Vukanigia.5496:

Desolation was all about RUIN, after they left you break apart. Now you are in tier 2 cos of KAZ guild, after they left your server you will go back to t4. Well i don’t wanna be unfair, you have IRON guild but one guild can’t carry whole server. So don’t speak me about awesome server with awesome spirit.

We lost most of Xaoc power and many other guilds but we are still fighting, Blacktide is not that soft as Desolation is, need more then one guild to drop us down.

We also got invited by one of your top guilds to join Desolation and i don’t c nothing bad in that. People are fighting on the field and on green table to improve their server… Desolation people should know that more then any other….

I’m from Kaz, and i have to say that Desolation was in tier 2 when we came, Iron, GH, God, and all the people of Deso have been doing a wonderful job, they get to tier 2, not Kaz. I am very glad and very happy to be in this great server with so wonderful people.

Kudos to arborstone for holding bay for so long yesterday evening.
We trebbed it for 3 hrs and u kept repairing ur walls over and even without supply.. We evetually got it..but it was quite a good fight there.

Goodmorning/afternoon everyone.

It’s the last day of 2012, let’s make it worth remembering!

wezlaar.7285:

You shouldn’t be aloud on the Internet with moronic posts like that

Those words insult you more then me…

Don’t be blind and state that your server base population is better then any other in top tier. All servers have the same basic power but guilds like PRX, RUIN, KAZ, Green Fire, Nugos, Red Guard and others that are moving from one realm to another are making the difference.

What i said was this:

1. Desolation drop to tier 2 after you lost a battle vs Far Shiverpeaks and VS.
2. You got steamrolled by dbl french servers in tier 2 and drop down to tier3.
3. Desolation started with inviting guilds to join
http://www.guildwars2guru.com/topic/72184-eu-desolation-and-you/page__hl__desolation
4. RUIN joined Desolation and you start your way to Tier 1.
5. At the time RUIN was on Desolation i did not see any of you trash talk about them.
6. You won a Tier one and RUIN left the game (few from that guild joined BT).
7. You drop down after you lost RUIN http://mos.millenium.org/servers/view/15/#history

What i wanted to say is that you have to show some gratitude to guild that made you no 1 in EU.

I apologize if i insult anyone with my post as that wasn’t what i wanted to do.

When you regrut a guilds and they come to your realm then you should show some respect for them. I got a mail from IRON where they inv us to join Desolation but after i found how you speak about guilds that are helping you to reach the top i must say i don’t find Desolation as a friendly place for a new guilds.

One more time, i have a huge respect for IRON and KAZ and i didn’t try to insult your guilds with this post, just wanted to c some fine words for RUIN guild that was your engine to no1 in EU and KAZ that is making you get back to tier one.

Vukanigia.5496:

i must say i don’t find Desolation as a friendly place for a new guilds.

I think we are. Only RUIN was a serverwinner hopper. We got defeated by BT and RUIN hopped instantly to BT with a lot of randoms. Thats why people where getting mad.

KAZ joined us for the long term, they are more then welcome.
Because they didnt join for the win, they joinend for the fighting spirit.

I hope that we can keep this topic the same as on the battlefield.
Hard and fair with no trolling/insulting.

Lots of respect from my side for BT and Arbor.

See you on the battlefield

I really really like tier 2 atm. I dont think/hope we go to tier 1. When you and Arbor are at full strenght, we will have a hell of a fight.

Same mate, i’m sorry if i drop some negative energy with my posts here and i’ll pay more atention on that in the future. We have some really good fights in tier 2 and i hope it will continue in the new year. Blacktide is working really hard to improve our pressence on the field and i think we are much better now then 2 weeks ago.

Voo,while i respect your opinion, heres what your missing:

Allow me to name you a server that based their www around large guilds: Far Shiverpeaks. Being explayer yourself i dont have to tell you what happened to it after the www attendance dropped below a certain level. Blacktide is just like it, building entirely on recruited guilds. But those guilds wont stick and fight, and why should they: Blacktide is built on the mentality thats its ok to to transfer if things get bad.

Deso on the other hand doesnt have any really large national guilds or group, the largest guild iron is international. Basicly its an absolutely english speaking pug server. I can name you another pug server on the eu ladder: Vizunah Square. And now with SFR which also has a tonn of italians and has a really low pve population and Blacktide which is polish/russian in the arena, Deso is a much more desirable transfer loacation, due to the fact the its absolutley english speaking, and has a huge pve population, making it comfortable for any pvx player, + has a low probablity of any particularly large groups leaving being pug server, making it fairly stable.

Sooo:
1: The current Deso might be only t2 ready, but its way more stable than the current Blactide, even if thats not what you wanna hear.
2: Deso might have been back to t1 with ruin, but ruin is on blacktide now, and last time i checked the score they dont seem to help you that much. Its wasnt the core ruin group that was strong, its all the players they recruited from deso that gave them numbers. And most of those ppl didnt go with them. Plus seriously, who the hell talks trash about one of their own guilds even if they dont like them. You cant expect ppl to flame one of the guilds on their server.
3: based on the fact that last weeks elona is t1 material, Blacktide is missing about 2/3rd of its www population. If it was like the quarter of that id say yeah, sure they are preparing holiday. But you honestly think with a rational mind that that many players will jump back in the game actively playing every day to keep the server up after skipping playing for weeks now?
4: guilds like PRX, RUIN, KAZ, and the rest you listed plus the ones you forgot but do this: They are not making a difference, they are making the eu ladder unstable, shifting the population around randomly. The reason Vizunah is still in T1 is because its stable, and the reason Blacktide is falling like a stone is because you built on transfer guilds. To make a difference you need a population that wont transfer and is sustainable on the long term. It doesnt matter if someone gets to t1 if it requires more effort that what they can keep up. And project Blacktide seems ot be failing bigtime at that.

Its also not nice to discount so many guilds by saying desolation is tier 2 only cos of Iron and kaz.
Its like saying bt is only good cos of chaos(xaoc). And disounting every other
Guild on bt.

And people hate ruin for a reason..and am sure u know it.

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

Vukanigia.5496:

i must say i don’t find Desolation as a friendly place for a new guilds.

I think we are. Only RUIN was a serverwinner hopper. We got defeated by BT and RUIN hopped instantly to BT with a lot of randoms. Thats why people where getting mad.

KAZ joined us for the long term, they are more then welcome.
Because they didnt join for the win, they joinend for the fighting spirit.

I hope that we can keep this topic the same as on the battlefield.
Hard and fair with no trolling/insulting.

Lots of respect from my side for BT and Arbor.

See you on the battlefield

I really really like tier 2 atm. I dont think/hope we go to tier 1. When you and Arbor are at full strenght, we will have a hell of a fight.

I think you are a bit misinformed. RUIN wasn’t really on BT… Just a few members, 10 or so… Really not that much to have a great impact and they left the week after.

A lot of BT players also weren’t that happy with the few RUIN that joined. I remember a group of pugs gathering at the border waypoint when this 1 RUIN guy said “OK guys follow me” and they responded basically with “yeah right” and literally nobody followed him. I think I even have a screenshot of that somewhere. It was quite a funny moment.

You’re right that there were non-RUINers that hopped to BT, but that also was the case with Deso (and ofcourse other servers) when people saw Deso was rising fast back then. Do you think nobody from Far Shiverpeaks hopped to Deso the week after they faced you?

We hunted them down. There where more then some for a week.
But they left after that week.

They are history, lets talk about the future.
When will RG, NUG , GF, MOS, and OPT show up in full force?

That would be interesting for me

Hope you like the screenshot, we did making it happen.

See you on the battlefield

Really enjoyed the fight on the Arbor borderlands to the early morning today when we finally capped Garrison. Hat’s off to Arborstone for always coming back to the fight and not giving up – good to see high numbers and great organization from all involved despite the late hour. Was my first time fighting along side KAZ since they moved to Deso and it was great! Look forward to more great match up’s against Arbour and BT – they always deliver a great fight.

Magnificent fight for Arbor Garrison last night.

Great job by both sides.

Looking forward to more of the same during this match-up.

Oeps Rolls Necro.2594:

We hunted them down. There where more then some for a week.
But they left after that week.

They are history, lets talk about the future.
When will RG, NUG , GF, MOS, and OPT show up in full force?

That would be interesting for me

Hope you like the screenshot, we did making it happen.

See you on the battlefield

I ofcourse can’t speak for the other guilds, but I believe RG announced they will be back after Jan 4th or so?

I’m not Russian, so I don’t know everything that’s going on in Nugos to be completely honest :P but from what I understand most of our members (including our leader) are on holiday break and most of them should be back next week or so. The only Russian words and sentences I know are WvW/position-related (left, right, back, regroup, build, go to, etc etc)…

No clue about the other guilds.

Old MacDonald had a Farm E i e i o

Happy New Year for [insert your time zone here] from Juggernauts [JuG]

When will RG, NUG , GF, MOS, and OPT show up in full force?

Most of the WvW guild in AS are in idle mode until the end of the celebrations.
MoS don’t make Raid before the 7 January, Opt maybe come back the next week, same for LNM ect…

Some people are leaving BT because they think others have left as well, when they’re just in hybernationmode… Other servers suffering the same?

Merry new yearmas comrades, see you again outside of Ogrewatch in EB next year!

Although alot of fun this match up does not mean alot, as so many people/guilds are taking holidays.

You can tell that both arborstone and Bt are tier 1 servers, the fight put up even when often outmanned and outgunned is awesome. I just hope Deso keeps up the good work, it’s great having Kaz here, to supplement the already quality guilds we have on deso.

I don’t care what happenned in the past its done and dusted. All I can say is it is a pleasure fighting both these servers and managing a half decent thread for a change.

On behalf of [HOPE] I’d like to wish you all a very Happy New Year when it hits your timezone. Over here in the Netherlands it is still 7.5 hours and ticking.

But be careful with firecrackers! You don’t want to lose a hand as you need it for WvW next year!

Had lot of fun in EB last fews days, awesome fight in SM.

Look like no matter what happen we’ll have the same match up next week, i’m looking forward so see how it goes with everyone at full strength.

From an Arbor pov it’s hard to keep moral up with such large number to face, especially without ours main guilds to counter Iron, but we’re kind of use to it after so many week in T1 facing Vs.

Anyway Desolation is doing an awesome job switching on all BL and sometimes EB when needed, you have the hightest number this week but still, you’re doing great.

Happy new year from ArborStone and see you next year for more awesome fight !

Big up to everyone (pugs, parts of big guilds, small guilds) on Blacktide for fighting like this in our current population situation.
I have a feeling pugs finally learned how to play together more efficiently.
And this despite the language barrier!

We had some fierce long fights on Blacktide borderland last night, where in the end Blacktide prevailed; fights which would have ended in our enemies favour normally (and in fact did end in our enemies favour since beginning of this WvWvW cycle). Last nights fights were really surprising considering the fact people hardly speak the same language.
’t was fun, thanks to all parties/servers/guilds involved!

Happy New Year to everyone!

Happy New year everyone & awesome matchup so far, less flaming here & more pew pew in the battlefeild please.

Oxxymoron.9864:

Allow me to name you a server that based their www around large guilds: Far Shiverpeaks. Being explayer yourself i dont have to tell you what happened to it after the www attendance dropped below a certain level. Blacktide is just like it, building entirely on recruited guilds. But those guilds wont stick and fight, and why should they: Blacktide is built on the mentality thats its ok to to transfer if things get bad.

Bolded part mine. As people often say on this forums: Complete bullkitten. While we are mostly built on transferred guilds, please do never say again that we’re ENTIRELY built on them. There’s enough guilds still playing from the very beginning of the headstart to not ignore them. Thank you.

Oxxymoron.9864:

2: Deso might have been back to t1 with ruin, but ruin is on blacktide now, and last time i checked the score they dont seem to help you that much. Its wasnt the core ruin group that was strong, its all the players they recruited from deso that gave them numbers. And most of those ppl didnt go with them. Plus seriously, who the hell talks trash about one of their own guilds even if they dont like them. You cant expect ppl to flame one of the guilds on their server.

Again bolded part mine. I’ve seen their commander for 1, 2 weeks tops on EB. They never had more than 10-13 members. The rest usually were PU’s because there were no other commanders. Many refused to follow them and kept switching maps. I have nothing against the people that were trying to make up for their destroyed name. In fact they weren’t that bad, it was just a few bad decisions made in their leadership.

The so called “core” went PS2 and never showed up on BT. Please cut this topic already, people just exaggerate BT so they can feel better when they “beat” us.

Oxxymoron.9864:

3: based on the fact that last weeks elona is t1 material, Blacktide is missing about 2/3rd of its www population. If it was like the quarter of that id say yeah, sure they are preparing holiday. But you honestly think with a rational mind that that many players will jump back in the game actively playing every day to keep the server up after skipping playing for weeks now?

Truth is – the majority didn’t transfer out. Actually none of the guilds I know did. They’ve just quit the game, said “Farewell” and left. Few whisps I’ve got said that they might come back depending on what changes in WWW in February, but for now the game has nothing to offer. And while I agree with them, that’s another story.

All the best for the new year boys and girls, and hopefully we can look forward to some great fights and some much needed WvW updates in the next couple of months

Building on the comments above;

As already stated, I don’t think blacktide is built on transfer guilds. RUIN transferred and swiftly disappeared. And they seemed to cause more arguments and dissension in blacktide WvW then much else during their brief stay. I’m not saying I personally wouldn’t want them on blacktide, I will gladly have as many guilds helping as possible, I’m just stating what I observed on map chat.

Oxxymoron also touched on a point which I often stress/agree on. That success at higher tier WvW requires more than just organised guilds but also a strong pug WvW attendance. VS being an example of this. The higher tier servers have a number of WvW active and organised guilds on each server, but the combination of strong guilds with a strong pug base; especially if the two co-ordinate effectively seems to be the key winning edge.

See you for more WvW when I can get back on soon, and happy new year

Happy New Year everyone.
See you on a wvw map soon x)

Veinsmeet.4385:

Building on the comments above;

As already stated, I don’t think blacktide is built on transfer guilds. RUIN transferred and swiftly disappeared. And they seemed to cause more arguments and dissension in blacktide WvW then much else during their brief stay. I’m not saying I personally wouldn’t want them on blacktide, I will gladly have as many guilds helping as possible, I’m just stating what I observed on map chat.

Oxxymoron also touched on a point which I often stress/agree on. That success at higher tier WvW requires more than just organised guilds but also a strong pug WvW attendance. VS being an example of this. The higher tier servers have a number of WvW active and organised guilds on each server, but the combination of strong guilds with a strong pug base; especially if the two co-ordinate effectively seems to be the key winning edge.

See you for more WvW when I can get back on soon, and happy new year

IMO, pug base is what keeps the server with a good amount of points during the whole day (~200points). Guilds are the ones who come and make the difference in a map, so they cause those 350+-450points peaks during their playtime (which is not permanent).

If you don’t have a good pug base, your points will fluctuate A LOT. And you will be really tired after a few weeks. It’s like wtf, this is soooo fun, and taking keeps and towers is awesome. But after i log out, we’ll lose them in 10 minutes and be the rest of the day with 100 points, so it’s kinda pointless.

Happy new year every1

are guilds CIR THUN etc still playing?

Havent seen them around lately.

Pugs are probably as important as organized guilds. It’s a coop. One can’t function without the other. Pugs won’t want to play if they know the organized guilds don’t play and the other way around.

salluks.6017:

are guilds CIR THUN etc still playing?

Havent seen them around lately.

We’ll be back later this week/next week.

Gonna roam solo for an hour-2ish. If anyone wants some 1on1s, /w Intigo. I would love to fight some other solo roamers since it’s rare that you get tough 1on1 fights. Anything but mirror matchups or super-defensive builds are fun.

Otherwise, PM me on here and we can set something up tomorrow afternoon-evening before RG starts our roaming.

Hope 2013 will bring as many awesome fights as 2012 did o/

Dear Deso… so you want to attack the weakest of the servers to make it easy for you to gain points, ok… but we’re only 5 people atm, why are you trebbing our last tower?! Please attack it directly. Its pathetic…

Coz trebbing it more fun?

Probably. PvD ftw. Never understood it really. ^^.
But yeah, its more fun than getting spanked by a few BT pugs. xD

Pannonica.5378:

Dear Deso… so you want to attack the weakest of the servers to make it easy for you to gain points, ok… but we’re only 5 people atm, why are you trebbing our last tower?! Please attack it directly. Its pathetic…

I’ve been on my Ranger in BT BL for 5 hours straight together with 2 of my guildmates and we were just roaming around with our favorite commander. A few hours earlier we were at Crag with some rams, then a golem. And because every time a 20-30 man zerg stormed out of the citadel, we chose to do a two-pronged attack with trebs and catas after that.

So to you it may be pathetic that we used trebs from the Garrison to take the other tower, but to us it was a proper tactic as we didn’t know there were only 5 of you left. We were expecting the same 20-30 group to come bursting out of your Citadel, so we set up trebs instead. You see, at that time there were approximately 15-20 of us left if I remember correctly.

Trust me, I have nothing personal against Blacktide at all. Frankly, when I meet you on the field, I fight as honorable as I can because I deem you a worthy opponent who fights fair in general (contrary to that other server).

/salute

Pannonica.5378:

Dear Deso… so you want to attack the weakest of the servers to make it easy for you to gain points, ok… but we’re only 5 people atm, why are you trebbing our last tower?! Please attack it directly. Its pathetic…

That doesn’t make any sense. Just because you’re with 5 people left, which we didn’t have anything to do with, we should adapt to you? You’re just mad because you’re losing big, that’s pathetic.

Pannonica.5378:

Probably. PvD ftw. Never understood it really. ^^.
But yeah, its more fun than getting spanked by a few BT pugs. xD

Mind not giving me PvD whine please? Yes Deso had that before with the “no need the name” guild and now we are having it bit by bit with the help of KAZ and Deso’s vampire players.Also don’t forget that KAZ is not an NA guild but a Spanish one so that they are staying up late at night to give us scores.Even if it means they need to break their life style for it.

Don’t forget how BT came up.All the late night/early morning PvD you did was your not only but the biggest force.Always been and always will.

Not that i’m blaming or hate flaming BT for this but you shouldn’t forget where you came from while talking and flaming others.

I was there fightning with BT when they were on mid tiers against Gunnar’s Hold when i transferred GH for 1 week and i was there fightning when BT recruited it’s way up to T1.

PvD is a must atm thanks to the way Anet gives and forces us to play if we want to be on higher tiers.

But as i said already , don’t forget where you came from before flaming Deso for PvD.

Aveneo.2068:

Pannonica.5378:

Dear Deso… so you want to attack the weakest of the servers to make it easy for you to gain points, ok… but we’re only 5 people atm, why are you trebbing our last tower?! Please attack it directly. Its pathetic…

I’ve been on my Ranger in BT BL for 5 hours straight together with 2 of my guildmates and we were just roaming around with our favorite commander. A few hours earlier we were at Crag with some rams, then a golem. And because every time a 20-30 man zerg stormed out of the citadel, we chose to do a two-pronged attack with trebs and catas after that.

So to you it may be pathetic that we used trebs from the Garrison to take the other tower, but to us it was a proper tactic as we didn’t know there were only 5 of you left. We were expecting the same 20-30 group to come bursting out of your Citadel, so we set up trebs instead. You see, at that time there were approximately 15-20 of us left if I remember correctly.

Trust me, I have nothing personal against Blacktide at all. Frankly, when I meet you on the field, I fight as honorable as I can because I deem you a worthy opponent who fights fair in general (contrary to that other server).

/salute

At the time of my post, you already took everything and you must have seen (and felt while taking), that we’re just a handful and not 20-30.
I can understand if one chooses to treb and its a valid thing to do, but well, that last one was meh against so few of us. See below.

Jurrien.2617:

Pannonica.5378:

Dear Deso… so you want to attack the weakest of the servers to make it easy for you to gain points, ok… but we’re only 5 people atm, why are you trebbing our last tower?! Please attack it directly. Its pathetic…

That doesn’t make any sense. Just because you’re with 5 people left, which we didn’t have anything to do with, we should adapt to you? You’re just mad because you’re losing big, that’s pathetic.

If you knew RG, we dont give a flying kitten about points. All that counts for us is the direct confrontation against good enemy players. Preferable against bigger numbers.
Sad I personally was… because I found it unintelligible to not confront us directly, especially after everything has been taken by you easily and it was clear we we’re just a few. I find it proper etiquette to give that last few enemy players the honour of a last stand, so to speak. If you didn’t notice it yet, we’re all playing this game together; there would be no victory for you without us loosing. I’m sorry to say this, but failure to appreciate our cooperation in the game just shows your egocentric attitude and is a sign of no good sportsmanship.
Apparently boredom already set in at your end…

Quentin Fields.1295:

Pannonica.5378:

Probably. PvD ftw. Never understood it really. ^^.
But yeah, its more fun than getting spanked by a few BT pugs. xD

Mind not giving me PvD whine please?.

Stopped reading right there, since it was clear you didn’t check what I was refering too. I’m sorry if you thought this was a general statement/bash against your crew. I was refering to a specific situation, is all. And just because I don’t understand PvD, it doesn’t mean I have quarrel with it.
Also you can’t take a joke, so thats that then.

It wasn’t feel like a joke but an allusion.Sorry if i was mistaken.Even if i was mistaken , my post can be just taken as an answer for general pvd flames

@Pannonica – Don’t be like that. I know it’s frustrating when you’re outnumbered, but it’s unrealistic to expect everyone else to play the same way you do. In the heat of battle you can’t expect deso to just stop, count all the enemy players (that can be seen) and then have a commander tell everyone to not use anymore trebs all because of your expectation for ‘proper etiquette’. Deso have no idea what you have planned or if you have reinforcements incoming, so they’re obviously going to want to take your last keep as quickly as possible to secure a defensive foothold. People want to get as much out of WvW as they can, and as siege equipment is a big part of WvW, people are going to use it as much as possible.

Also, trebs are fun. I absolutely loved blowing the kitten out of everything this evening. I don’t care if there’s 1 or 50 of you, I want to make things explode! I want to participate in everything WvW has to offer :-D

Simonoly.4352:

@Pannonica – Don’t be like that. I know it’s frustrating when you’re outnumbered, but it’s unrealistic to expect everyone else to play the same way you do. In the heat of battle you can’t expect deso to just stop, count all the enemy players (that can be seen) and then have a commander tell everyone to not use anymore trebs all because of your expectation for ‘proper etiquette’. Deso have no idea what you have planned or if you have reinforcements incoming, so they’re obviously going to want to take your last keep as quickly as possible to secure a defensive foothold. People want to get as much out of WvW as they can, and as siege equipment is a big part of WvW, people are going to use it as much as possible.

Also, trebs are fun. I absolutely loved blowing the kitten out of everything this evening. I don’t care if there’s 1 or 50 of you, I want to make things explode! I want to participate in everything WvW has to offer :-D

Although it sucks for us, I agree with this post.

Let’s turn this around. If deso was outnumbered and we weren’t, do you think our commanders would tell half of our troops to stop playing to “make it a more fair fight”?

It is what it is….

Although if I know that we outnumber them heavily and they won’t have reinforcements coming I probably wouldn’t go for trebs… kind of waste of time and resources lol.

Last time we met,you outnumbered us…now we outnumber you (but it’s only because of holidays),hopefully next week you will be in full strenght…but your whining about us trebbing the last tower is just funny…i have never seen anybody whine about something like that. And we are not attacking the weakest server,we aim for the full map.

Funyy, Deso has more than usual population cos of holidays
and Arbor and BT don’t have much for the same reason..

Because you have IRON, the guild that can do anything, it can also help to grow back hair on your head. When i read the recruitement topic of desolation, it does always make me smile

We try to improve our server instead of whining all the time, we leave that to the other servers.

What are you actually doing then ?

Truebanana.5936:

What are you actually doing then ?

Stop trying to pick a fight mate, it isn’t going to fly.