Guild Wars 2

It’s mind boggling that they opened BG. In 82 time periods this week, they had 71 1st place finished and 11 second; ZERO 3rd place finishes.

Tier 1 is the most lopsided tier this week. Yet BG was open for transfers because they did not have sufficient number enough players playing?

BG was opened on monday, your looking at the current score on a friday night. BG had been closed for months, if you could not get enough people on your servers then stop blaming us we had nothing to do with it. Mag got 2 big guilds last week but for some reason did not show up at all this week.

X T D.6458:

BG was opened on monday, your looking at the current score on a friday night. BG had been closed for months, if you could not get enough people on your servers then stop blaming us we had nothing to do with it. Mag got 2 big guilds last week but for some reason did not show up at all this week.

The point is BG has been winning for months straight in T1. Hence, why does it need any more population at all? It certainly isn’t underpopulated.

This is just yet another error by WvW devs at Anet. Their management or whomever needs to make it mandatory that they actually play the game rather than just theorycraft on “what they think is going on” because that often times isn’t close to reality.

As said. Just split BG. Give everyone a free transfer and lock the servers after receiving a maximum of 50 players. First come, first serve.

Dont worry, Anet will just glicko adjust whatever server comes 2nd to 1st place next week, problem solved.

Guys guys, BG had less players than 3 servers combined, of course they needed to be opened…
I mean if they actually worked to make every tier competitive people might stop transferring and gem sales would go down.

Based on:
- it’s weekend (where JQ is strongest)
- the standings

T1 seems to be not that competitive.

Towelie.9504:

X T D.6458:

BG was opened on monday, your looking at the current score on a friday night. BG had been closed for months, if you could not get enough people on your servers then stop blaming us we had nothing to do with it. Mag got 2 big guilds last week but for some reason did not show up at all this week.

The point is BG has been winning for months straight in T1. Hence, why does it need any more population at all? It certainly isn’t underpopulated.

This is just yet another error by WvW devs at Anet. Their management or whomever needs to make it mandatory that they actually play the game rather than just theorycraft on “what they think is going on” because that often times isn’t close to reality.

We actually haven’t won every match up, in fact before the last relinking we had lost 3 straight weeks. Our population was/is apparently smaller then JQ’s as pointed out by Mckenna in the other thread, and keep in mind server status is determined by activity now, not population. BG does have a very active militia force which likely contributed a great deal to the server calculations.

What makes it a kick in the groin is that for a while now it looks like Anet has been manually massaging the matchups for a better WvW experience. They manually adjust glicko when it’s called for and they pair servers manually based on their data. But it’s too much to manually keep some servers like BG locked for transfers? With those kinds of oversights it makes me wonder if WvW as a whole has been put on the backburner again with only one or two devs on it while everyone else work on the next expansion.

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Towelie.9504:

X T D.6458:

BG was opened on monday, your looking at the current score on a friday night. BG had been closed for months, if you could not get enough people on your servers then stop blaming us we had nothing to do with it. Mag got 2 big guilds last week but for some reason did not show up at all this week.

The point is BG has been winning for months straight in T1. Hence, why does it need any more population at all? It certainly isn’t underpopulated.

This is just yet another error by WvW devs at Anet. Their management or whomever needs to make it mandatory that they actually play the game rather than just theorycraft on “what they think is going on” because that often times isn’t close to reality.

We actually haven’t won every match up, in fact before the last relinking we had lost 3 straight weeks. Our population was/is apparently smaller then JQ’s as pointed out by Mckenna in the other thread, and keep in mind server status is determined by activity now, not population. BG does have a very active militia force which likely contributed a great deal to the server calculations.

Absolutely the most self serving, delusional poster ever…..wow, just wow

Hockey.2417:

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Towelie.9504:

X T D.6458:

BG was opened on monday, your looking at the current score on a friday night. BG had been closed for months, if you could not get enough people on your servers then stop blaming us we had nothing to do with it. Mag got 2 big guilds last week but for some reason did not show up at all this week.

The point is BG has been winning for months straight in T1. Hence, why does it need any more population at all? It certainly isn’t underpopulated.

This is just yet another error by WvW devs at Anet. Their management or whomever needs to make it mandatory that they actually play the game rather than just theorycraft on “what they think is going on” because that often times isn’t close to reality.

We actually haven’t won every match up, in fact before the last relinking we had lost 3 straight weeks. Our population was/is apparently smaller then JQ’s as pointed out by Mckenna in the other thread, and keep in mind server status is determined by activity now, not population. BG does have a very active militia force which likely contributed a great deal to the server calculations.

Absolutely the most self serving, delusional poster ever…..wow, just wow

Cool, do I get a cookie?

X T D.6458:

We actually haven’t won every match up, in fact before the last relinking we had lost 3 straight weeks.

The week before the relink BG won

Tbh, I always say that bg is garbage. Only way they have high kdr/ ppt is only during off hours, let’s check on reset night where they got rekt hard but since they out number players during off hours and sea they can make up the difference+more. I always believed that bg never had quality guilds (exception of QQ and Opp)only off hour coverage.

X T D.6458:

Our population was/is apparently smaller then JQ’s as pointed out by Mckenna in the other thread

BG has a Q in EB and it’s 7am est. on Sunday morning. WvW population data is simply wrong.

Samis.1750:

It’s mind boggling that they opened BG. In 82 time periods this week, they had 71 1st place finished and 11 second; ZERO 3rd place finishes.

Tier 1 is the most lopsided tier this week. Yet BG was open for transfers because they did not have sufficient number enough players playing?

From observations it seems that BG has a lot of regular and dedicated players. They also seem to put in a lot of overtime. The recent dev post stating that BG had less population than JQ and linked worlds lends more credibility to my thoughts.

Despite BG being a top competitive server, that doesn’t mean it needs to be forever locked and players stressed to put in more effort to be successful. Brief periods of being open are healthy for current players and allows for the population to be maintained as other players stop playing or lose interest.

Y’all really have to stop blaming players on this particular server and look to improving your own servers instead.

DeWolfe.2174:

X T D.6458:

Our population was/is apparently smaller then JQ’s as pointed out by Mckenna in the other thread

BG has a Q in EB and it’s 7am est. on Sunday morning. WvW population data is simply wrong.

I mean I totally agree BG is overstacked right now but this is pretty ironic coming from a JQ player lmao.

You do realize this is SEA prime where JQ used to queue 2-3 maps right?

Also there’s a 7 man queue on EBG right now on BG and none on the others on a weekend in SEA prime which says more about how ded gaem it is than anything else.

Swagger.1459:

From observations it seems that BG has a lot of regular and dedicated players. They also seem to put in a lot of overtime. The recent dev post stating that BG had less population than JQ and linked worlds lends more credibility to my thoughts.

Despite BG being a top competitive server, that doesn’t mean it needs to be forever locked and players stressed to put in more effort to be successful. Brief periods of being open are healthy for current players and allows for the population to be maintained as other players stop playing or lose interest.

Y’all really have to stop blaming players on this particular server and look to improving your own servers instead.

+1 good post.

fishball.7204:

You do realize this is SEA prime where JQ used to queue 2-3 maps right?

Also there’s a 7 man queue on EBG right now on BG and none on the others on a weekend in SEA prime which says more about how ded gaem it is than anything else.

2014 should not be the reason for balancing today or do you think otherwise?

To the facts from saturday.
JQ had no queues in OCX, SEA and EU and a 22 queue for EB, 7 for JQ bl on NA (east coast 21:00 hours)
BG had queues in all those timezones, the highest I have seen was on SEA with 52 for EB and 33 on BG bl (while both other bl had smaller queues)
TC had a large queue for EB in EU and NA (and smaller for the bl) and smaller to none in the other timezones.

On which facts is the “JQ has more population than BG” based?
Without knowing how they count population it’s not smart to state anything.

In my opinion it’s a bad system that counts people who get into wvw and take a camp, kill a sentry for daily and leave afterwards as wvw population instead of checking things like “time spent in wvw per week” or “timezone participation over four weeks”.

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Swagger.1459:

From observations it seems that BG has a lot of regular and dedicated players. They also seem to put in a lot of overtime. The recent dev post stating that BG had less population than JQ and linked worlds lends more credibility to my thoughts.

Despite BG being a top competitive server, that doesn’t mean it needs to be forever locked and players stressed to put in more effort to be successful. Brief periods of being open are healthy for current players and allows for the population to be maintained as other players stop playing or lose interest.

Y’all really have to stop blaming players on this particular server and look to improving your own servers instead.

+1 good post.

It’s Sunday and reset was Friday.

It’s true…even a top competitor like Black Gate can loose & doesn’t win ALL the time.

Players need to stop complaining & work harder like Black Gate.

Take a look at the Skirmish Scoring screen capture taken just now (Sunday Nov13 @4:56 pm UTC).

Out of the 19 current skirmishes…they only won 18.

This kind of scoring…to be “fair” doesn’t happen often…right…it’s a fluke.

Anyway…if this was football…Black Gate has seriously got the talent & is on par with being a Super Bowl team.

The remaining 23 of 24 NA server are really talentless & can only be on par with being a High School team.

I’m with you buddy.

Shame on the rest of the 23 of 24 NA servers….you need to train harder & be more credible while you’re at it!

Stop blaming Black Gate. They can’t help it if the rest of WvW doesn’t have a lot of regular and dedicated players like they do. They also seem to put in a lot of overtime.

It’s all your fault folks. It’s in your hands to train harder & while you’re at it…you should recruit better people like Black Gate does.

Please note…this is a parody & shouldn’t be taken seriously. Screen capture is real though.

Diku.2546:

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It’s Sunday and reset was Friday.

It’s true…even a top competitor like Black Gate can loose & doesn’t win all the time.

Players need to stop complaining & work harder like Black Gate.

Take a look at the Skirmish Scoring screen capture taken just now.

Out of the 19 current skirmishes…they only won 18.

If this was football…Black Gate has the talent & is on par of being a Super Bowl team.

The remaining 23 of 24 NA servers really are talentless & can only be on par with being a High School team.

I’m with you buddy.

Shame on the rest of the 23 of 24 NA servers….you need to train harder & be more credible while you’re at it!

Stop blaming Black Gate. They can’t help it if the rest of WvW doesn’t have a lot of regular and dedicated players like they do. They also seem to put in a lot of overtime.

The moment a game “becomes like work” is when the realities of work set in. Burnout is a very real thing in work, and can be seen post WvW Seasonal Tournaments. Players overplayed (or overworked for this analogy) and eventually left after the burnout.

Don’t stress over “becoming like BG” because that’s just coverage wars….no amount of training will change that. Get more numbers magically.

Neither is it BG’s fault for 24 hour persistent game modes that lead to burnout.

Chinchilla.1785:

Don’t stress over “becoming like BG” because that’s just coverage wars….no amount of training will change that. Get more numbers magically.

Neither is it BG’s fault for 24 hour persistent game modes that lead to burnout.

Agree…it’s not entirely BG’s fault.

BG somehow managed to place their server in a spot that the game mode systematically encourages immortality. I’m pretty sure other servers wished they could have done what BG successfully pulled off. I’m pretty sure it took a lot of both effort & luck.

Anyway…ANet is working on “fixing” the score numbers…to hopefully adjust the perception that WvW is ok…since World Linking isn’t fully doing it.

These short term solutions without a clear vision…are making a mess of WvW. I wish ANet would focus on providing a long term solution based on a concise vision for everybody to understand.