Guild Wars 2

My humble opinion as a pve scrub is that WvW is very easy to farm.

Current mindset of people:

I just run around the map contributing just enough to get a few camps, shrines or whatever I need to get to participation 6. Then it’s a solid half hour of semi-afk before it starts to wear off enough to care about. (need to keep participation at 3 or above).

After an intensive zerg, you can just ride it out all afk like, who cares if there is a queue right? I want my pips.

Outnumbered gives us 5 pips, so always be on the lookout for a good map swap.
Or play during the hours when nobody is in WvW, easy pips with little to do.
Sure you would like to get participation 6, but that requires more work then just the 3 you need.

My recommendation to prevent this mindset:
- Participation 3 – required for any pips (this is fine)
- Outnumbered gives 1 pip
- Participation 4, 5 and 6 give 1 additional pip
- an extra pip in the low WvW ranks (50+ would suit me just fine)

1 outnumbered, + 3 participation + 1 for not a total pleb level = 5

Also add a cash out option, that grants instant pips and WvW reward track so you dont have to afk to let the timer run down. Add an account debuff for X hours to prevent reuse. It could be a node you farm. It would prevent gaining participation for an hour, so it really is only for when you need to go to work, or such.

Just my opinion, hopefully something will be done against the outnumbered / afk thing.

Getting rewarded should be based on participation, not afk time ;-)

I would say not to give outnumber pip on the first tick when one enter a new map and hopefully by the second tick, the outnumber disappear because people of the same mentality entered.

Not a bad idea.
I think one outnumbered pip sounds reasonable. But I would give only +1 pip if you have participation maxed, so it hits you a bit harder, when you afk and it motivates to keep your participation up by doing something usefull.
If they raise the number of pips in low level, then the other levels should also be raised imo

Or fix the outnumbered this way:
Make it so that when people swap maps, they don’t get the outnumbered bonus for 5 minutes or so, to discourage from swapping conveniently.