Guild Wars 2

Anet needs to make a dead zone in every BLs where you can’t get any pips, so the afk pip kitten can’t sit at spawn and take up valuable spots for active players trying to get into a BL. Force of em out the spawn area where they can get hit by enemy/killed players. Make the safe area at spawn a DEAD pip zone and have the pip active once you’re past the legendary guards or something.

I totally Agree .

What’s a….. pip kitten?

Elementalist Owner.7802:

What’s a….. pip kitten?

One that was owned by Gladys Knight.

JFLaliberte.5749:

Anet needs to make a dead zone in every BLs where you can’t get any pips, so the afk pip kitten can’t sit at spawn and take up valuable spots for active players trying to get into a BL. Force of em out the spawn area where they can get hit by enemy/killed players. Make the safe area at spawn a DEAD pip zone and have the pip active once you’re past the legendary guards or something.

I completely agree, and would take it one step further. Don’t let those standing in spawn count when determining Outnumbered. Let them count against the queue, so that 80 people can’t stand in spawn and then rush out to add to the 80 people already out there.

I would also suggest a rework of the Outnumbered system as a whole, to provide stat bonuses rather than pips and/or the current bonuses. The excuse for not changing it in the past, that they didn’t want people chasing anyone off the map so that the few who were there could keep the Outnumbered bonus, has been completely tossed out the window. Adding the current level of a greed-based incentive to Outnumbered has caused this reaction to already begin to happen. However, a nuanced stat bonus instead would give Outnumbered servers an actual fighting chance. Rather than being spawn camped by overwhelming numbers.

The argument about stat bonus for outnumbered servers has been going on since well… before the buff even got put on live servers. Its kinda a moot point since anet obviously doesnt want to do that.

More important is, imo, that outnumbered bonus to pips is just way too high. +5 pips? Really? Whereas showing commitment only gives you +1?

Outnumbered bonus should just be nerfed to +1 pip. Done. Not worth hunting for the buff anymore.

As for waiting at spawn for participation degen… how about this… upon leaving wvw your participation still counts as if you were still in wvw, but because you left wvw you cant refresh it anymore obviously. So people that dont want to “waste” the left over participation could just stand somewhere in pve… or do something in pve… and still get the rewards just as if they stood with a macro in wvw…

Basically participation doesnt disappear on leaving wvw but keeps on ticking. Of course you could argue, that that would invite people to get full participation and then jump back into pve. But lets be honest… a) thats quite a hassle and b) wouldnt that still be better than them standing in spawn and waiting for decay?

JFLaliberte.5749:

Anet needs to make a dead zone in every BLs where you can’t get any pips, so the afk pip kitten can’t sit at spawn and take up valuable spots for active players trying to get into a BL. Force of em out the spawn area where they can get hit by enemy/killed players. Make the safe area at spawn a DEAD pip zone and have the pip active once you’re past the legendary guards or something.

I agree with the dead pip zone idea. Its a good one. However, how is someone taking up valuable pace on an OUTMANNED BL?

Good idea, I approve.

Btw, people can afk in OS and get pips too.