Guild Wars 2

Been looking at how these work.

You get 3 for winning, 1 for losing, 2 middle server.

A mid ranked wvw player (up to 2600 rank or so) gets 3 pips, an EOTM leveller gets 7 (or just those that got high rank by tagging everything and never scouting on high traffic servers).

So someone on a middle rank gets 4 pips every 5 minutes. Someone who was on a busy server (bandwaggoner) or a winning stacked server gets 10.

Based on 100 pips for a chest, 7 chests. Middle rank needs around 2.2 hours of constant participation (not always easy to get on lower servers) compared to under an hour for stacked EOTM high rankers.

Seven chests: middle ranker has to play EVERY night for at least 2.2 hours (more likely 3 to 4 ) to have any hope of getting through the rewards before they reset. If they can get into wvw that night.

EOTM bandwaggoner needs less than 7 hours and can likely finish all whole pips in a couple days. if they can get into wvw that night.

That’s assuming there is 100 pips a chest- with my server is now q’s 50-80 deep I don’t have any way of checking that.

Given that the rewards are much better at the top end you can already see the bandwagon effect with 5 EU servers now showing ‘full’ (and more to follow).

I’d suggest next time Anet design something for wvw they ask wvw players what they think of it before bringing it in.

It needs a tweak or two on the pips side as the ranks pips is way too much of a spread and the 1,2,3 for winning or losing also needs looking at. There should be a much smaller gap overall otherwise it’s bandwagon city.

no pips in EoTM

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/New-WvW-blog-post-June-1-2017/page/2#post6605336

I wouldn’t just blame the queues as “bandwagon city”. The server caps are based on active players in WvW. With so many more players, who may already be on those servers, flocking to WvW then it’s going to increase the likelihood of hitting that cap.

MadBomber.3719:

unless im mistaken you dont get pips in eotm

They’re referring to players who previously farmed their ranks months and months ago.

Is the new meme to complain about people who earned ranks in EOTM? So what! They put in the time to k train the same way off hour band wagons k train the borderlands. They can’t separate the roamer, fight centered grind out wvw levels from the zerg following 1 spammer.

You are right about the pips for being on a winning server being an encouragement for people to band wagon.

Loyalty needs 2-3 pips to discourage bandwagoning.

So you should only play this your whole week to be able to get the final reward, plus no gold, nothing.
Forget about pve, pvp and all the rest, seems too crazy for me, and i love wvw.