Its an insta win on my condi necro. Let the engi stack how much he wants, mark 3+4 combofield +condi transfer. Signet of spite and a little fear to finish him. Good engis sometimes escapes. Baddies explode.
Every roaming engi with a shield uses the runes, if you cant win why fight? Im not even going to try on my other chars.
as an ex glamour mesmer i gotta say that these runes are too powerful. our glam was never able to stack this fast, this high and this long lasting. we needed 8-10 mesmers to get up to a lot of confusion dmg like that.
the problem is that it gives 5 stacks for 15 sec per interrupts. when i was glam i would sometimes see 25 stacks ticking, but they never lasted longer than 1-3 seconds
I didn’t know interrupts were immune to dodging.
wow, seriously. that is all u got to say to that? so u a re blind to acknowledge, that these runes are unbalanced. ok…we!
so out of your 7 interrupts i dodge 2 of them=5 left=25 stacks
by the time my dodge is ready again u have 2 mre interrupts. so yeah dodging all that is sooo easy. even if i manage to evade a few stacks, your class was able to stack confusion even without those runes..
i know not to spam my attacks with my mes, so no need to l2p as during glamtimes i was able to survive many many glambombs with no problem. little hint try to confuse a dolyak that is walking towards a keep(oh thats right 0 confusion ticks), but u have other attacks u can use next to the 25 confusion stacks. rune 6/6 needs a nerf.
only because u found something op to play with, doesent make u more skilled then another player, so no need to lecture people to dodge.
I didn’t bother to read all that, it’s hot as fk here. You need to realise that every single dam time people whine and cry about something, there eventually is a counter. BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors… they all have a counter, but in the beginning people just whined and cried on the forums all day long. If you think this rune is any different you should just go play another game.
You should read it; he totally punks you.
Which makes me find your response hilarious.
On my necromancer I usually have no problems to counter those engies. But this only due to being a condition necromancer (since ever), and having one condition cleanse and 2 condition transfers on a farely nice CD. Any engy will be “blessed” with his own conditions facing me.
On my mesmer however I sometimes manage to give them their confusion back, but usually I keep my distance. Either I am lucky and blow that guy up in seconds, or I have to run and try to reset the fight. That sometimes works, if the engy is not that good, but a good engy will still confuse me appart.
Simply adding an internal CD would be a good start. Then one should bring the runes in line with all the other runes. Meaning the 6/6 effect should be just one, not two. Why is it that tourment and confusion runes need two effects on 6/6 while no other rune (I can think of now) has that. So make the 6/6 effect add 5-7 second confsuion on interrupt with an internal cooldown of 15-20 seconds and get rid of the +15% confsion time. Alternativle don’t put an internal CD but make the confusion time 2-3 seconds (that time will be increased by food buff and traits).
[ROSE] – Fissure of Woe
Chronomancy works, I am proof of it. Now stop asking me questions. Time must be preserved!
as an ex glamour mesmer i gotta say that these runes are too powerful. our glam was never able to stack this fast, this high and this long lasting. we needed 8-10 mesmers to get up to a lot of confusion dmg like that.
the problem is that it gives 5 stacks for 15 sec per interrupts. when i was glam i would sometimes see 25 stacks ticking, but they never lasted longer than 1-3 seconds
I didn’t know interrupts were immune to dodging.
wow, seriously. that is all u got to say to that? so u a re blind to acknowledge, that these runes are unbalanced. ok…we!
so out of your 7 interrupts i dodge 2 of them=5 left=25 stacks
by the time my dodge is ready again u have 2 mre interrupts. so yeah dodging all that is sooo easy. even if i manage to evade a few stacks, your class was able to stack confusion even without those runes..
i know not to spam my attacks with my mes, so no need to l2p as during glamtimes i was able to survive many many glambombs with no problem. little hint try to confuse a dolyak that is walking towards a keep(oh thats right 0 confusion ticks), but u have other attacks u can use next to the 25 confusion stacks. rune 6/6 needs a nerf.
only because u found something op to play with, doesent make u more skilled then another player, so no need to lecture people to dodge.
I didn’t bother to read all that, it’s hot as fk here. You need to realise that every single dam time people whine and cry about something, there eventually is a counter. BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors… they all have a counter, but in the beginning people just whined and cried on the forums all day long. If you think this rune is any different you should just go play another game.
You should read it; he totally punks you.
Which makes me find your response hilarious.
as an ex glamour mesmer i gotta say that these runes are too powerful. our glam was never able to stack this fast, this high and this long lasting. we needed 8-10 mesmers to get up to a lot of confusion dmg like that.
the problem is that it gives 5 stacks for 15 sec per interrupts. when i was glam i would sometimes see 25 stacks ticking, but they never lasted longer than 1-3 seconds
I didn’t know interrupts were immune to dodging.
wow, seriously. that is all u got to say to that? so u a re blind to acknowledge, that these runes are unbalanced. ok…we!
so out of your 7 interrupts i dodge 2 of them=5 left=25 stacks
by the time my dodge is ready again u have 2 mre interrupts. so yeah dodging all that is sooo easy. even if i manage to evade a few stacks, your class was able to stack confusion even without those runes..
i know not to spam my attacks with my mes, so no need to l2p as during glamtimes i was able to survive many many glambombs with no problem. little hint try to confuse a dolyak that is walking towards a keep(oh thats right 0 confusion ticks), but u have other attacks u can use next to the 25 confusion stacks. rune 6/6 needs a nerf.
only because u found something op to play with, doesent make u more skilled then another player, so no need to lecture people to dodge.
I didn’t bother to read all that, it’s hot as fk here. You need to realise that every single dam time people whine and cry about something, there eventually is a counter. BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors… they all have a counter, but in the beginning people just whined and cried on the forums all day long. If you think this rune is any different you should just go play another game.
first of all i havent been crying heavily, second these runes are stronger than any rune in the game without a icd. thats all i wanted to say. i have no problem with confusion as my autoattacks are slow anyways. soe get over yourself already
Lv 80 glamour Mesmer Triforce Mesmerpower PU mes,Lv 80 power necro
[AVTR]
Isle of Kickaspenwood
as an ex glamour mesmer i gotta say that these runes are too powerful. our glam was never able to stack this fast, this high and this long lasting. we needed 8-10 mesmers to get up to a lot of confusion dmg like that.
the problem is that it gives 5 stacks for 15 sec per interrupts. when i was glam i would sometimes see 25 stacks ticking, but they never lasted longer than 1-3 seconds
I didn’t know interrupts were immune to dodging.
wow, seriously. that is all u got to say to that? so u a re blind to acknowledge, that these runes are unbalanced. ok…we!
so out of your 7 interrupts i dodge 2 of them=5 left=25 stacks
by the time my dodge is ready again u have 2 mre interrupts. so yeah dodging all that is sooo easy. even if i manage to evade a few stacks, your class was able to stack confusion even without those runes..
i know not to spam my attacks with my mes, so no need to l2p as during glamtimes i was able to survive many many glambombs with no problem. little hint try to confuse a dolyak that is walking towards a keep(oh thats right 0 confusion ticks), but u have other attacks u can use next to the 25 confusion stacks. rune 6/6 needs a nerf.
only because u found something op to play with, doesent make u more skilled then another player, so no need to lecture people to dodge.
I didn’t bother to read all that, it’s hot as fk here. You need to realise that every single dam time people whine and cry about something, there eventually is a counter. BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors… they all have a counter, but in the beginning people just whined and cried on the forums all day long. If you think this rune is any different you should just go play another game.
first of all i havent been crying heavily, second these runes are stronger than any rune in the game without a icd. thats all i wanted to say. i have no problem with confusion as my autoattacks are slow anyways. soe get over yourself already
I understand your frustration, it’s hard to deal with these things when you can’t be bothered to adapt to a new build. My eyes are full of tear as i’m writing this.
as an ex glamour mesmer i gotta say that these runes are too powerful. our glam was never able to stack this fast, this high and this long lasting. we needed 8-10 mesmers to get up to a lot of confusion dmg like that.
the problem is that it gives 5 stacks for 15 sec per interrupts. when i was glam i would sometimes see 25 stacks ticking, but they never lasted longer than 1-3 seconds
I didn’t know interrupts were immune to dodging.
wow, seriously. that is all u got to say to that? so u a re blind to acknowledge, that these runes are unbalanced. ok…we!
so out of your 7 interrupts i dodge 2 of them=5 left=25 stacks
by the time my dodge is ready again u have 2 mre interrupts. so yeah dodging all that is sooo easy. even if i manage to evade a few stacks, your class was able to stack confusion even without those runes..
i know not to spam my attacks with my mes, so no need to l2p as during glamtimes i was able to survive many many glambombs with no problem. little hint try to confuse a dolyak that is walking towards a keep(oh thats right 0 confusion ticks), but u have other attacks u can use next to the 25 confusion stacks. rune 6/6 needs a nerf.
only because u found something op to play with, doesent make u more skilled then another player, so no need to lecture people to dodge.
I didn’t bother to read all that, it’s hot as fk here. You need to realise that every single dam time people whine and cry about something, there eventually is a counter. BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors… they all have a counter, but in the beginning people just whined and cried on the forums all day long. If you think this rune is any different you should just go play another game.
first of all i havent been crying heavily, second these runes are stronger than any rune in the game without a icd. thats all i wanted to say. i have no problem with confusion as my autoattacks are slow anyways. soe get over yourself already
I understand your frustration, it’s hard to deal with these things when you can’t be bothered to adapt to a new build. My eyes are full of tear as i’m writing this.
dude like i said i have no kitten problem with it, but it is still too much. this rune is not balanced at all! i use it myself, duuuuh! but it must be hard not being able to read properly.
Lv 80 glamour Mesmer Triforce Mesmerpower PU mes,Lv 80 power necro
[AVTR]
Isle of Kickaspenwood
as an ex glamour mesmer i gotta say that these runes are too powerful. our glam was never able to stack this fast, this high and this long lasting. we needed 8-10 mesmers to get up to a lot of confusion dmg like that.
the problem is that it gives 5 stacks for 15 sec per interrupts. when i was glam i would sometimes see 25 stacks ticking, but they never lasted longer than 1-3 seconds
I didn’t know interrupts were immune to dodging.
wow, seriously. that is all u got to say to that? so u a re blind to acknowledge, that these runes are unbalanced. ok…we!
so out of your 7 interrupts i dodge 2 of them=5 left=25 stacks
by the time my dodge is ready again u have 2 mre interrupts. so yeah dodging all that is sooo easy. even if i manage to evade a few stacks, your class was able to stack confusion even without those runes..
i know not to spam my attacks with my mes, so no need to l2p as during glamtimes i was able to survive many many glambombs with no problem. little hint try to confuse a dolyak that is walking towards a keep(oh thats right 0 confusion ticks), but u have other attacks u can use next to the 25 confusion stacks. rune 6/6 needs a nerf.
only because u found something op to play with, doesent make u more skilled then another player, so no need to lecture people to dodge.
I didn’t bother to read all that, it’s hot as fk here. You need to realise that every single dam time people whine and cry about something, there eventually is a counter. BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors… they all have a counter, but in the beginning people just whined and cried on the forums all day long. If you think this rune is any different you should just go play another game.
first of all i havent been crying heavily, second these runes are stronger than any rune in the game without a icd. thats all i wanted to say. i have no problem with confusion as my autoattacks are slow anyways. soe get over yourself already
I understand your frustration, it’s hard to deal with these things when you can’t be bothered to adapt to a new build. My eyes are full of tear as i’m writing this.
dude like i said i have no kitten problem with it, but it is still too much. this rune is not balanced at all! i use it myself, duuuuh! but it must be hard not being able to read properly.
That’s what I thought when I started playing shatter mesmer, BS thief and bunker guardian and ele as well. get the hell over it , somebody will come up with a counter soon.
“BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors”
bs thieves – nerfed
shatter mesmers – who ever complained about those?
bunker eles – nerfed
bunker guardians – who ever complained about those?
HB warriors – nerfed (frenzy fyi)
so that makes 3 out of 5 builds you named were actually nerfed.
2 out of 5 builds you claim were whined about – i dont remember the whine.
so consider your argument destroyed, which sums up as “the devs release balanced stuff only and everyone just needs to l2p”. perplexity runes are a clear case of OP, if you dont see that, you probably havent played against them or you are a class who can send the OP right back to them with condition transfer.
i fear we will look back to this day and remember the good old wvw as it is now – Jan 2015
“BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors”
bs thieves – nerfed
shatter mesmers – who ever complained about those?
bunker eles – nerfed
bunker guardians – who ever complained about those?
HB warriors – nerfed (frenzy fyi)
so that makes 3 out of 5 builds you named were actually nerfed.
2 out of 5 builds you claim were whined about – i dont remember the whine.
so consider your argument destroyed, which sums up as “the devs release balanced stuff only and everyone just needs to l2p”. perplexity runes are a clear case of OP, if you dont see that you probably havent played against them or you are a class who can send the OP right back to them with condition transfer.
hahaha. sure if your argument is destroyed im a thief. great tactic man, please indulge me more. fyi my thief is lvl 24 and i have 1300 hours on warrior.
i fear we will look back to this day and remember the good old wvw as it is now – Jan 2015
hahaha. sure if your argument is destroyed im a thief. great tactic man, please indulge me more. fyi my thief is lvl 24 and i have 1300 hours on warrior.
I don’t see how my argument is ‘destroyed’ when you’re pulling out random made-up ‘facts’ out of your rectum but ok.
as an ex glamour mesmer i gotta say that these runes are too powerful. our glam was never able to stack this fast, this high and this long lasting. we needed 8-10 mesmers to get up to a lot of confusion dmg like that.
the problem is that it gives 5 stacks for 15 sec per interrupts. when i was glam i would sometimes see 25 stacks ticking, but they never lasted longer than 1-3 seconds
I didn’t know interrupts were immune to dodging.
wow, seriously. that is all u got to say to that? so u a re blind to acknowledge, that these runes are unbalanced. ok…we!
so out of your 7 interrupts i dodge 2 of them=5 left=25 stacks
by the time my dodge is ready again u have 2 mre interrupts. so yeah dodging all that is sooo easy. even if i manage to evade a few stacks, your class was able to stack confusion even without those runes..
i know not to spam my attacks with my mes, so no need to l2p as during glamtimes i was able to survive many many glambombs with no problem. little hint try to confuse a dolyak that is walking towards a keep(oh thats right 0 confusion ticks), but u have other attacks u can use next to the 25 confusion stacks. rune 6/6 needs a nerf.
only because u found something op to play with, doesent make u more skilled then another player, so no need to lecture people to dodge.
I didn’t bother to read all that, it’s hot as fk here. You need to realise that every single dam time people whine and cry about something, there eventually is a counter. BS thieves, shatter mesmers, bunker eles and guardians, HB warriors… they all have a counter, but in the beginning people just whined and cried on the forums all day long. If you think this rune is any different you should just go play another game.
first of all i havent been crying heavily, second these runes are stronger than any rune in the game without a icd. thats all i wanted to say. i have no problem with confusion as my autoattacks are slow anyways. soe get over yourself already
I understand your frustration, it’s hard to deal with these things when you can’t be bothered to adapt to a new build. My eyes are full of tear as i’m writing this.
dude like i said i have no kitten problem with it, but it is still too much. this rune is not balanced at all! i use it myself, duuuuh! but it must be hard not being able to read properly.
That’s what I thought when I started playing shatter mesmer, BS thief and bunker guardian and ele as well. get the hell over it , somebody will come up with a counter soon.
like i said it is not about counter its about a rune that is not balanced. it needs an icd.
Lv 80 glamour Mesmer Triforce Mesmerpower PU mes,Lv 80 power necro
[AVTR]
Isle of Kickaspenwood
Lowering the applied stacks from 6/6 is also an option.
For that matter, transforming the confusion-on-interrupt to extra confusion damage is an option.
Honestly, I’d vote for either the second or third options. At least the second allows for AoE usage. Failing that, the third simply makes the Runes strengthen pre-existing Confusion usage. Either way, the +Confusion Duration needs patched, for sure.
Malegryne (Sylvari Mesmer), Lannka (Asura Thief) – Ferguson’s Crossing: [PRD/BRB/OMFG]
Other 80s: Any but Warrior
Lowering the applied stacks from 6/6 is also an option.
For that matter, transforming the confusion-on-interrupt to extra confusion damage is an option.
Honestly, I’d vote for either the second or third options. At least the second allows for AoE usage. Failing that, the third simply makes the Runes strengthen pre-existing Confusion usage. Either way, the +Confusion Duration needs patched, for sure.
the duration in 6/6 is too long that is true. i’d vote for 3 as increasing confusion dmg and not triggering 5 stacks per interrupt, would be good as it strengthens existing builds. so engis can still use them as they already are a confusion class next to mesmers.
Lv 80 glamour Mesmer Triforce Mesmerpower PU mes,Lv 80 power necro
[AVTR]
Isle of Kickaspenwood
hahaha. sure if your argument is destroyed im a thief. great tactic man, please indulge me more. fyi my thief is lvl 24 and i have 1300 hours on warrior.
I don’t see how my argument is ‘destroyed’ when you’re pulling out random made-up ‘facts’ out of your rectum but ok.
hahaha. sure if your argument is destroyed im a thief. great tactic man, please indulge me more. fyi my thief is lvl 24 and i have 1300 hours on warrior.
Same here lol, I main warrior and have a lvl 40 thief, his only counter argument is UR A THIEFZZ its very entertaining XD.
Bumping for visibility. I see no fix in the patch notes. Someone please tell me they are not ok with 5 stacks of confusion on interrupt with no cool down.
Bumping for visibility. These runes are ridiculous. I can equip these runes on my warrior or interrupt thief and faceroll over people. The 6/6 bonus needs an ICD and a lower duration. The 4/6 bonus also needs a lower duration, or it should do something else like increase confusion damage.
If that’s not obvious enough. Every single cap point there’s one engineer/thief stacking 25 confusion. Beyond that broken +150 stats (some particular guild builds are starting to become unkillable), this particular playstyle takes the 2nd most irritating kitten from anet.
Those rune need to be nerfed or all the other one need to be buffed. The issue is that for some class it open some interesting and fun build but for other like engi or mesmer it become way too OP.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Point stands. People are talking about the buff like it makes enemies into some kind of unstoppable killing machine. It doesn’t. If you’ve ever killed anyone who had banners down—or better yet, banners + divinity runes—then congratulations, you killed someone with a bigger stat buff than the orbs give.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Point stands. People are talking about the buff like it makes enemies into some kind of unstoppable killing machine. It doesn’t. If you’ve ever killed anyone who had banners down—or better yet, banners + divinity runes—then congratulations, you killed someone with a bigger stat buff than the orbs give.
the problem is, it makes the stronger server even stronger, which has nothing to do with your strange banner argument
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Point stands. People are talking about the buff like it makes enemies into some kind of unstoppable killing machine. It doesn’t. If you’ve ever killed anyone who had banners down—or better yet, banners + divinity runes—then congratulations, you killed someone with a bigger stat buff than the orbs give.
the problem is, it makes the stronger server even stronger, which has nothing to do with your strange banner argument
Yeah, I can see how comparing stat buffs to stat buffs could be confusing. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the same thing. “Strange” indeed. I don’t know what came over me.
@Arkanfel: You’re in one of two balanced matches. Your opinion is worth crap, because your experience doesn’t come close to mirroring the experience of 75% of the other servers.
You do realize that I could use that exact same logic on you, right?
You’re in an imbalanced matchup, which exaggerates the problem beyond what it actually is. The problems you are facing are a function of population, not the buff itself.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Point stands. People are talking about the buff like it makes enemies into some kind of unstoppable killing machine. It doesn’t. If you’ve ever killed anyone who had banners down—or better yet, banners + divinity runes—then congratulations, you killed someone with a bigger stat buff than the orbs give.
the problem is, it makes the stronger server even stronger, which has nothing to do with your strange banner argument
Yeah, I can see how comparing stat buffs to stat buffs could be confusing. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the same thing. “Strange” indeed. I don’t know what came over me.
yep, you are comparing a slot skill on a single class that effects people in a small radius to a server wide buff. yup, pretty strange
@Arkanfel: You’re in one of two balanced matches. Your experience doesn’t come close to mirroring the experience of 75% of the other servers.
You do realize that I could use that exact same logic on you, right?
You’re in an imbalanced matchup, which exaggerates the problem beyond what it actually is. The problems you are facing are a function of population, not the buff itself.
Except that unbalanced matches are the norm, not the exception. So in fact what’s happening in those is a better reflection of the game as a whole.
@Arkanfel: You’re in one of two balanced matches. Your experience doesn’t come close to mirroring the experience of 75% of the other servers.
You do realize that I could use that exact same logic on you, right?
You’re in an imbalanced matchup, which exaggerates the problem beyond what it actually is. The problems you are facing are a function of population, not the buff itself.
Except that unbalanced matches are the norm, not the exception. So in fact what’s happening in those is a better reflection of the game as a whole.
Again, the problems suffered by those matchups are a function of population/participation. Does the orb bonus impact those matches negatively? I’m sure it does. But it doesn’t mean that the buff itself is actually broken, which most people here seem to be taking as an article of faith.
You want to do something about bloodlust on an imbalanced matchup? This strikes me as an infinitely better idea than constantly whining WAAA ITS BROKEN on the forums. Not saying you’re doing that, but it’s hard to ignore that it has been the trend here lately. There has been a whole lot of complaining and very few actual ideas.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
Not only that, but I remember A-Net mentioning something about a diminishing returns system where an additional 100 to a stat really doesn’t help that much after a certain point. I don’t know if that’s true, however.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
Yeah so now people can stack the banner buffs with the bloodlust buffs!! Pretty soon all people will have to do is hit one button and people will insta die
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Point stands. People are talking about the buff like it makes enemies into some kind of unstoppable killing machine. It doesn’t. If you’ve ever killed anyone who had banners down—or better yet, banners + divinity runes—then congratulations, you killed someone with a bigger stat buff than the orbs give.
the problem is, it makes the stronger server even stronger, which has nothing to do with your strange banner argument
Yeah, I can see how comparing stat buffs to stat buffs could be confusing. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the same thing. “Strange” indeed. I don’t know what came over me.
yep, you are comparing a slot skill on a single class that effects people in a small radius to a server wide buff. yup, pretty strange
Think harder, Homer.
What I said was “are people too hard to kill when they’re in banner range?”
Yes, it’s a slot skill. I actually have a banner warrior, I know how it works. My point is that having 50-150 added to your stats is not broken, in fact it is something that many players have experienced many times without even knowing it.
Moreover, the stat discrepancy between a fully geared character with NO orbs, and an uplevel or an ungeared 80 is potentially much larger than 150. I don’t see anyone arguing that we ought to remove uplevels from wvw, or have gear requirements for WvW entry.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Point stands. People are talking about the buff like it makes enemies into some kind of unstoppable killing machine. It doesn’t. If you’ve ever killed anyone who had banners down—or better yet, banners + divinity runes—then congratulations, you killed someone with a bigger stat buff than the orbs give.
the problem is, it makes the stronger server even stronger, which has nothing to do with your strange banner argument
Yeah, I can see how comparing stat buffs to stat buffs could be confusing. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the same thing. “Strange” indeed. I don’t know what came over me.
yep, you are comparing a slot skill on a single class that effects people in a small radius to a server wide buff. yup, pretty strange
Think harder, Homer.
What I said was “are people too hard to kill when they’re in banner range?”
Yes, it’s a slot skill. I actually have a banner warrior, I know how it works. My point is that having +150 added to your stats is not broken, in fact it is something that many players have experienced many times without even knowing it.
Perplexity runes need an ICD on the 6/6 bonus, and the condi duration needs to be decreased. It doesn’t matter whether or not my opponents bring condi removal because I can stack confusion on them faster than they can remove. As long as they’re attacking me (even autoattacks), there’s something for me to interrupt and drop another stack of long-lasting confusion. Heck, they stack confusion even when they attack me, due to the 4/6 bonus. What the runeset actually does is boost my survivability by a ton, because my opponent needs to slow his attacks down a lot to avoid having one of his skills interrupted.
It’s easy to think you’re outplaying your opponent because you’re interrupting his skills, but the fact of the matter is that interrupting is stupidly easy to do, since even autoattacks can be interrupted.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
because banners effect an entire server across 4 maps right? lawl
Point stands. People are talking about the buff like it makes enemies into some kind of unstoppable killing machine. It doesn’t. If you’ve ever killed anyone who had banners down—or better yet, banners + divinity runes—then congratulations, you killed someone with a bigger stat buff than the orbs give.
the problem is, it makes the stronger server even stronger, which has nothing to do with your strange banner argument
Yeah, I can see how comparing stat buffs to stat buffs could be confusing. It’s not like they’re anywhere near the same thing. “Strange” indeed. I don’t know what came over me.
yep, you are comparing a slot skill on a single class that effects people in a small radius to a server wide buff. yup, pretty strange
Think harder, Homer.
What I said was “are people too hard to kill when they’re in banner range?”
Yes, it’s a slot skill. I actually have a banner warrior, I know how it works. My point is that having 50-150 added to your stats is not broken, in fact it is something that many players have experienced many times without even knowing it.
Moreover, the stat discrepancy between a fully geared character with three orbs and an uplevel or an ungeared 80 is potentially much larger than 150. I don’t see anyone arguing that we ought to remove uplevels from wvw, or have gear requirements for WvW entry.
cool story. like i said, giving the stronger server a completely unnecessary stat buff just makes them even stronger.
cool story. like i said, giving the stronger server a completely unnecessary stat buff just makes them even stronger.
Granted, I’ve been in T2 and T1 for most of my time in Guild Wars, but it has been my observation that the lower tiers have been imbalanced for about a year now. The buff is not the main problem with those matchups. I can see how it might make things worse, but again, that doesn’t mean that the stat buff itself is broken. In general I think people are making too much of it.
Perplexity runes have been a plague on the game since they were introduced. Why they were even added to the game, let alone without any testing, is beyond me.
There are HEAPS of rune sets that ABSOLUTELY SUCK. But they keep bringing out new runes and sigils? Fix the old ones first instead of making overpowered trash like perplexity.
Why do people keep saying that +150 to stats is “broken.”
Look at banners. Banner of Strength gives you +170 to Power and condition damage. Banner of defense gives you +170 Vitality and Toughness. Banner of Discipline dishes out more DPS than banner of strength does.
Are banners broken? Are people “too hard” to kill when they’re within banner range? I mean really now this is just getting silly.
The orb buff is not broken. Stop complaining about it.
Err, those are abilities that take up slots…. but besides that, it’s not that +150 to stats makes people overpowered, it’s that WvW already suffers from stat power creep from PvE, and this just adds to it, then will get even worse with ascended armor, it’ll get to the point where the balance is absolutely out of whack or the entire way fights are handled changes in a negative way.
Perplexity Runes just need a huge duration nerf, or a ICD, but I think a duration nerf would be better.
5 stacks of confusion is one thing…. 5 stacks of confusion with 10 SECOND BASE DURATION is ludicrous lmao.
Should be 3s base like mesmer confusion abilities.
Perplexity runes need an ICD on the 6/6 bonus, and the condi duration needs to be decreased. It doesn’t matter whether or not my opponents bring condi removal because I can stack confusion on them faster than they can remove. As long as they’re attacking me (even autoattacks), there’s something for me to interrupt and drop another stack of long-lasting confusion. Heck, they stack confusion even when they attack me, due to the 4/6 bonus. What the runeset actually does is boost my survivability by a ton, because my opponent needs to slow his attacks down a lot to avoid having one of his skills interrupted.
It’s easy to think you’re outplaying your opponent because you’re interrupting his skills, but the fact of the matter is that interrupting is stupidly easy to do, since even autoattacks can be interrupted.
the duration of 6/6 is too much that is right. 5 stack for15 seconds per interrupt….. no glam mesmer was ever able to stack something lieke that ever. ourkitten grandmaster traits for confusion last 5 sec…the rest about the rune is ok, butt 6/6 is what is giving u 25 stacks from an engi.
Lv 80 glamour Mesmer Triforce Mesmerpower PU mes,Lv 80 power necro
[AVTR]
Isle of Kickaspenwood
