Guild Wars 2

Dear Arena Net,

This is being written in the hope that it might finally land on the desk it needs to be on at ArenaNet to have an effect. The wvw community is getting fed up with the lack of any backward/forward communication on wvw and its future. We love this game mode, made all the more believable by the passion people show for their relevant servers in the many, many deleted and infracted posts.

So please start to listen and communicate with the wvw communities and perhaps going forward make improvements to wvw. Not this current pve content dump we get in WvW when people at Anet think we’ve been neglected.

You had the next generation of Esports and you messed it up and pursued a 5 man Esport…. 5 man Esports are something we could do in the 90’s….

A final request for some actual back and forth information and ideas for the WvW game mode.

Regards,

The WvW Community

I remember a funny thread called “Communicating with you”. It should be somewhere around but this lovely search function on forum wont allow to dig it up.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/gw2/Communicating-with-you/first

So what this so called wvw community even wants? Am i part of wvw community if i think that GvG is joke, rucksacks look stupid and bigger than 20 man blobs should die automatically.

Good find, in all honesty I can understand there being apprehension on their part to freely exchange ideas with players, especially the passionate and sometimes toxic WvW arena. But in a mode that is reliant on players playing for the mode to even work, you HAVE to consult with aforementioned players.

If Anet had made a flat MAP around the size of the flatlands at the windmill in alpine borderlands and allowed guilds to 20v20 on it, with a basic spectator mode they would have been a real power house in the esports arena. Instead they let massive guilds and communities fritter away and die in pursuit of this outdated 5v5 MOBA style esport.

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So what this so called wvw community even wants? Am i part of wvw community if i think that GvG is joke, rucksacks look stupid and bigger than 20 man blobs should die automatically.

I am a part of the community, and I believe you are too. I do think there’s a very large place in the community, and the meta, for GvG guilds, and I also think that midsized open field groups should be emphasized over massive blobs. I despise blobfights(anything over 30v30), but I also hate solo/small man roaming. Lay off the rucksacks they look good on a few of my characters.

I don’t have any idea why GvG scores cannot be reflected in WvW scoring. PPK needs to be brought back for open field guilds. Make control of yaks/supply camps more important for roamers/havoc teams. Make it easier to get back into fights again, and to find fights in the first place. Make defending more rewarding, hell make everything more rewarding. Make it more important to take upgraded structures over paper structures. These are some of the things I want.

Each of us has personal ideas about what WvW should be, this makes it difficult for Anet to choose a globally acceptable path or vision.

Basically, over the last 12 months, it has appeared to many that Anet is struggling to get a vision that meets player expectations.

For myself, all I wanted was a sandbox to wvw / pvp in.

Yes each of us does have ideas of where WvW should go, and until ArenaNet listens to those ideas and then perhaps “Polls” the WvW community on what it wants we will be stuck in this endless loop of bad ideas.

It really isn’t difficult to find out what your players want if you just listen a bit more. But you need to listen to more than one player. I’m pretty sure if some of this had been polled over the last 3 years WvW would be in a much happier place right now.

I’m pretty sure some of the sampling has been done from streamers who aren’t really connected to the community and do everything to get more viewers/ratings. Including pve. I’ve watched other great games go down in flames because execs sourced streamers only for feedback.