Guild Wars 2

dear OP

outta 11 toons on my account 8 where leveled fron 2 to 80 (with some crafting) mostly in wvw. I am also on SBI mostly people want 80’s on reset but after that tell them to kitten off! also pm me the names that are threating you I will fix’em wellll annoy them till they stop!

@OP,
Just a note…
I took my lvl 3 (yes, 3) engineer to EotM yesterday.
A pug picked me up and we made good progress.
After 90 minutes I left at level 16.

If you want to play WvW for that content, then, imo, you should do it.
There are many activities there that can aid your server.

If you want to level quickly, EotM is what I would suggest, especially if you are playing the Overgrowth side (but that is a different issue/rant).

Michael Henninger.7451:

Bonezz.4961:

I was following a group around and was threatened to be mass reported by a guild

I love WvW and think you will too – you should stay. Don’t let the downers chase you away. There are some great suggestions above on how commanders should be using up-levels.

As for the reporting bit you’re doing nothing wrong by playing WvW. In fact, mass reporting for a false offense is an offense itself.

Could Anet please look at Rally in WvW? Because this thread is an example of why it is bad in WvW.

Its fine for PvE and sPvP but in WvW it doesn’t work. Its broken. And it causes animosity between players. It causes things like what the op experienced. And it is not an isolated experience.

It goes against Anet’s philosophy too. It is something worse than kill stealing, worse than divided rewards. How can Anet say they want people to play together and then not see how Rally in WvW is the opposite of that?

As an up level its not wise to run with the zerg or major operations. All of my level 80s were done exclusively in wvw. Nightly my wvw guild would take the uplevels around the map in a big circle flipping camps. You get tons of exp and wvw exp and you stay out from under the huge zergs.

So coordinate something with your guild to get a group together and run some camps

Hope this helps!

Jaxx

Ultimaistanza.4793:

Zetsumei.4975:

Bonezz.4961:

Sorry for the late reply but thanks for the replies from both sides. I just wanted to clarify that I had no idea what the other commander colors were supposed to represent as when I played there only seemed to be blue (Or that was the only one that people used?) and the general idea was follow the group around. I checked the four WvW maps and they were the only one with a commander icon and they were linking waypoints in map chat so I jumped on that. I also did not know what Edge of the Mists was as this didn’t exist when I played either and I figured it was a form of structured pvp before today so I didn’t try going into it.

Anyways, I do still have an old level 80 Necromancer however it didn’t really feel like I was surviving more or doing any more damage than my engineer was. That characters in full exotics with full power / vitality / condition gear with 4/6/4/0/0 traits based around staff / scepter (I don’t know if this is the thing or not still (I’m assuming not)). I did try roaming a bit looking for small fights but anytime I ran into a ranger for example I generally got instantly dropped in 2-3 seconds before I had a chance to do much.

Condi dmg won’t work in zerging because they get cleared too fast and the reduction is reduced to nothing, take zerker/knights gear and use wells for damage. Don’t stay with the melee train you need to strafe out the outsides of the fight and keep out of the damage while bombing, positioning will determine whether you survive or not. Condi is strong on necro for roaming though.

Condi Necro actually does work in zerging, especially now with the stabo changes, but you have to be smart about it. A condi WvW Necro needs as much variance in condis as possible to help keep them all from being clensed. Namely you want to get a Sigil of Torment, blind well with the chilling darkness trait for the chill, and/or essentially anything else that applies aoe condis that you have less consistent access to.

Calling a build a condi user is referring to the damaging conditions, a power build especially on necro can output just as much utility conditions from certain utilities necros have.

But anyway back to the point, even if they bleeds are protected from clearing by applying sufficient cover conditions your damage potential is cut down heavily due to the condi reduction food and runes being used. While you may keep bleeds on the enemy the amount of stacks you can maintain will at the very least be cut by half and so you simply won’t output anywhere near the damage you would in a small scale fight and especially won’t match the damage of a power well necro. The only place it could work is only the gank squad applying single target condi burst to backline but it’s effectiveness is reduced due to the numbers game in typical wvw unlike in gvgs.

It is not about the damage the uplevel can deal in a fight, at the worst point it would be as if there was 1 less person in the zerg (which makes no difference at all). The problem here is just the problem of being a rallybot or not. Problem with upleveleds is the fact that they dont have full armor, which drastically reduces the survability (in general, now pro players will come here and say they last more than lvl 80 guys in zerg etc etc). Also being an upleveled in MOST cases means no knowleadge of the class, that leads to be even weakier.

Then the next problem is the upleveled in this case was following a guid raid, while following a guild raid they were using teamspeak or other software to communitcate (most probably) and they would have builds and classes coordinated as well (as in most of the guild raids).

If you are an upleveled, and you are respectful and want others to respect you, please at least don’t follow the guild raids, join a blue tag if any around the map (when a guild raid is happening I am mostly sure there will be a pug raid as well).

I have levelled 3 of my 8 toons mostly in wvw. I’ve learnt the mechanics in wvw, what commanders expect from your class and how to avoid the red circles, because of the smaller level, I could die faster. That’s better than the eotm-karma train, I think.
They are still the characters which I play mostly in wvw.

If you avoid guildraids, then you are still welcome to almost every server, because on many servers, every single player is needed after reset night and when the queues are gone. Only solo’ing camps is almost impossible as an up-level.