Putting All Your Eggs in Your Yaks

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Posted by: misterdevious.6482

misterdevious.6482

Yaks:

  • Coming Soon: “When a dolyak reaches its destination it contributes to the upgrades of both the objective it is reaching and the camp it started at.”
  • Generate 30 supply at towers and 40 supply at keeps.
  • Generate 3 points at their final destination or when killed.
  • Generate more PPT (~192 on BL) than structures do (145 on BL).
  • Generate more Supply per tick (~2460 on BL) than the camps do (1800 on BL).
  • Respawn in 10 seconds if not killed and in 5 minutes if killed.
  • Can be crippled for several minutes by a sentry.
  • Escorting a yak yields no rewards.
  • ~337PPT, ~4260SPT = Single color BL with unmolested yaks.
  • 115PPT, 0SPT = Owning everything on a BL except camps. (66% less PPT, 100% less SPT)

With the upcoming changes, it will be new to need yaks for upgrades without needing their supply to do it. It will be new to not be able to upgrade camps if those camps are not connected to structures with successful yaks. It will be new that yaks are the single deciding factor whether you have walls, gates, cannons, oils, mortars, npc upgrades, merchants & services, and guild upgrade slots… and also the supply needed to siege, repair, and assault with.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

i like how you figured out through statistics that constant, unhindered supply routes can produce reliable upgrading.
and no it is not new that yaks are the single deciding factor whether you have upgrades or not, that has been the case since launch. no supply gets to tower, no upgrade finishes.
what is new, is that supply isn’t needed at all to begin, and continue upgrades. (this is a problem i think, that’s not how it works. You cannot build a wall without a continuous supply of wood or stone. instead of a supply flow, we now have..time.)

As quick as the Valkyries ride,
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.

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Posted by: misterdevious.6482

misterdevious.6482

and no it is not new that yaks are the single deciding factor whether you have upgrades or not, that has been the case since launch. no supply gets to tower, no upgrade finishes.

The system at launch was that you need a) Yaks to put supply in b) Supply not being drained out by players c) Someone running there and paying money to start the upgrade, d) workers being alive. That is 4 factors.

The coming system does not require supply, workers, or a player starting an upgrade.

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Posted by: Lightsbane.9012

Lightsbane.9012

and no it is not new that yaks are the single deciding factor whether you have upgrades or not, that has been the case since launch. no supply gets to tower, no upgrade finishes.

The system at launch was that you need a) Yaks to put supply in b) Supply not being drained out by players c) Someone running there and paying money to start the upgrade, d) workers being alive. That is 4 factors.

The coming system does not require supply, workers, or a player starting an upgrade.

i think we can agree that’s a terrible system.

As quick as the Valkyries ride,
As true as Odin’s spear flies,
There is nowhere to hide.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

ArchonWing.9480

I think relying only on yaks just simplifies the matter for the better. Currently all it does is slow down upgrades. Now they are critical and also intuitive, and as someone that regularly bashes their face against reinforced doors with 2-4 people with plenty of time to /sleep, I think I like it, because I do not think a karma train that just ran over this tower recently deserves that to keep the tower for that long.

Telling players not to drain supplies was a nightmare and supported griefing, and honestly I can’t really recall the last time anyone targeted workers. Asking people to pay for upgrades in a mode that was so gold scarce is a bad idea and puts the burden on a few players.

What I disagree with definitely is escorting a yak not being rewarded, though some would argue there basically is no reward. I’m also not sure about having the camps themselves being reliant on yaks making their destination.

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Posted by: Daddar.5971

Daddar.5971

I do believe A-Net is trying to frustrate WvW players so much that we all give up and go watch GW2 PvP e-sports.

‘Elite’ in all 9 professions. I take mediocrity seriously!

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Posted by: Fuzzion.2504

Fuzzion.2504

I do believe A-Net is trying to frustrate WvW players so much that we all give up and go watch GW2 PvP e-sports.

Theyr e-sports is dying bad.

Anet made a bad decision to choose pvp over wvw for e-sports

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Posted by: Daddar.5971

Daddar.5971

E-sports happen because of a huge following built by players themselves. A game company cannot magically decree an e-sport and have it succeed. If WvW were done RIGHT though, this game might grow again. Not holding my breath.

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