PvP Scaling.

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Posted by: Spitwyld.1963

Spitwyld.1963

Greetings everyone,

I have attempted WvW a few times since I started playing GW2 a few days ago and am constantly met with frustration. The server domination issue has been beat to death already so don’t worry, this isn’t one of those threads.

My issue is regarding how characters scale in PvP. My current character is level 15 but when I join in on the wuvwuv action, I am granted an effective level of 80. While this seems like a great solution to allow everyone to play together, my actual contribution is still quite negligible. I do not have many skills unlocked and my gear is tuned for level 15. What does this mean? I get steamrolled by actual level 80’s without them breaking a sweat.

I searched the forums regarding this issue and didn’t find any useful information. Anet, you guys have made a really beautiful, innovative game, how will you approach this problem of PvP scaling to make it more enjoyable for lower levels to enjoy WvW as a pleasant break from questing or as a means to level up entirely?

One solution I came up with is to grant players lower than level 80 a basic stat boost as though they are wearing a basic level 80 PvP armour and weapon set. I use the word basic because it would make them useful in combat without taking away from the level 80’s who have worked hard to build their high level gear. It would allow low levels to contribute while still having a separation from the really well-geared folks.

~Spitwyld

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Posted by: Spitwyld.1963

Spitwyld.1963

I am currently engaged in some WvW but am just getting creamed within a few seconds. Frustrating!

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Posted by: Jorjeis.2169

Jorjeis.2169

One solution I came up with is to get to level 80

Also there’s plenty you can do. Use support skills to help your team. Ferry supply and help build siege. Jump on an arrow cart and help out that way.

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Posted by: kylia.4813

kylia.4813

When you are in WvW are you running around solo, or do you join a group (including comms)
WvW solo, your going to get creamed, that WvW, not just your stat boost. I’ve seen and had many lower level people in my WvW groups, and they are just as effective, the key though is to be in a group, preferably one that target fires, and has communication with the server WvW.

p.s. Also make sure your using your dodges, and learn the AoE effects and what they do, I’ve seen many people new to WvW die in seconds because they don’t understand what that pretty purple bubble is doing around them, or that water fountain over there is doing.

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Posted by: Slamz.5376

Slamz.5376

My level 80 engineer in WvW with a mix of rare and exotic gear —
1798 power
1747 precision
1603 toughness
1753 vitality
2715 attack
44% crit chance
2649 armor
23452 health

My level 8 guardian in WvW with utter rubbish gear:
1534 power
1324 precision
1345 toughness
1554 vitality
2531 attack
23% crit
2185 armor
17185 health

It’s not like my level 8 can’t hit people.

Just as a test, I added a helm with 3 power and my power went up to 1596. So “3” turned into “62”. If I actually bought the very best gear I could find for level 8, I’d probably get my stats looking a lot more like my engineer’s, if not better.

So basically, it’s not as bad as you seem to think. Yes, you can get creamed in seconds under the right conditions. Happens to level 80s in full exotic gear, too.

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Posted by: Bish.8627

Bish.8627

My warrior high in toughness, almos entire exotic level 80, got creamed by a theif within a few seconds, barely left stealth, the scaling is fine, wvw is just about getting creamed now and then.

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Posted by: Setch.2398

Setch.2398

My understanding is that a level 30 in level 30 gear is equal to a level 80 in level 80 gear. You are just missing traits. Also, if you are a level 30 in non exotic gear and facing a level 80 in full exotic gear there will also be a discrepancy.

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Posted by: Nokaru.7831

Nokaru.7831

The scaling is a difficult thing to control. Ultimately, because of how attributes are distributed on gear, an 80 in Exotic gear will always be stronger than an upscaled non-80.

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Posted by: Spitwyld.1963

Spitwyld.1963

I will try getting all gear equivalent to my character level and try again. I generally stick with groups but every so often I find myself in a 1 v 1 or 1 v 2 situation which is where I notice the difference.

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Posted by: Phara Miu.2816

Phara Miu.2816

ive seen much worse WvW in regards to stat scaling :P
I have a 80 Ranger and a Warrior / Thief can get my health to zero in a matter of seconds.
Also make sure you are NEVER RUNNING ALONE !!!! at 80 i have 12 /14 silver repairs <—-this adds up real fast when running solo

Traits + gear + level makes a diffrence, glass cannons or Toughness healing specced traits also make a huge impact.