Guild Wars 2

Its been a year, so you should all know what I’m talking about.

You cannot invite people from your friends/guild lists. You cannot right click a name in chat to invite people. You cannot kick people from your party. I actually know people to leave to lion’s arc just so they can manage their party. Heaven forbid your friend decided to use special characters in his name…

Yes, we are able to make it work. But I’m sick of telling everyone to drop group and then typing in invites again, just because someone signed off without dropping group. This is a modern day MMO! Party UI functions should be a given.

Why is the party system so messed up in WvW? Is there a technical problem or limitation or something? I would really love to get a dev response on this.

Please keep this thread alive until we get an answer.

The last answer is 15 days old.

DevonCarver.5370:

dunnberry.2964:

Devon can you please answer the question about why we aren’t able to kick people who are offline from a party still please?!? We would love to know this

That is totally out of my area. I realize it occurs in WvW, but it is related to the tech we use for parties, etc. While I’ll look into it, I can’t say as I have any ability to fix it.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/suggestions/WvW-Party-management/first#post2705775 Reply here for great lovin.

Dang I missed that thread, thanks for point it out!

titanlectro.5029:

Dang I missed that thread, thanks for point it out!

Actually I just made it when I saw your thread. Figured we could make a real one in the right place and hope it gets noticed. Devon’s quoted response was pretty telling. We’ve been asking for it to be fixed in the WvW forums for a while, and it turns out it’s not a WvW specific thing.

I’m actually wondering if the correct forum is bug reports, but the sad truth is that it will get buried and disappear in either place.

Our best bet is that Devon talks to the guys in the other department, and gets them to do something about it. Chances are it is something that was completely forgotten on the back burner (since it is a WvW problem not handled by the WvW department). Here is hoping that Devon is convincing!

Turamarth.3248:

The last answer is 15 days old.

DevonCarver.5370:

dunnberry.2964:

Devon can you please answer the question about why we aren’t able to kick people who are offline from a party still please?!? We would love to know this

That is totally out of my area. I realize it occurs in WvW, but it is related to the tech we use for parties, etc. While I’ll look into it, I can’t say as I have any ability to fix it.

Just unbelievable…. seriously. It’s not the left hand not knowing what the right hand is doing…. the left hand was chopped off, sent via UPS to a small village in China and eaten by a goat.

How can the B-A-S-I-C ability to organize and manage groups come down to:

“Ya I heard about it but it’s someone else’s job to fix it for the last year.”

It would be laughable if I didn’t have to deal with frustration of MAKING A GROUP on a daily basis.

Ahmrill, have You ever heard about priorities?
Pushing out new stuff to gem store every 2 weeks is more important than fixing basic functionality of game.
Fixing bugs will not bring money to developers. New skins and finishers will.
There You have priorities. And this is why I give my hope to ESO because it will be p2p and You actually how some legal rights to demand bug fixing or repairing basic functionality.
Here people will always hear: you only payed once, you are playing for free, so get over it.

A year and the party system is still broken. Wasn’t this game launched “when it’s ready”? lol

When will this kitten actually be ready…

Hule.8794:

Ahmrill, have You ever heard about priorities?
Pushing out new stuff to gem store every 2 weeks is more important than fixing basic functionality of game.
Fixing bugs will not bring money to developers. New skins and finishers will.
There You have priorities. And this is why I give my hope to ESO because it will be p2p and You actually how some legal rights to demand bug fixing or repairing basic functionality.
Here people will always hear: you only payed once, you are playing for free, so get over it.

Make no mistake, I absolutely understand why Anet are focusing on the things that generate revenue. It’s a great fiscal plan short term but not a great long term plan to retain WvW and PvP players.

Social grouping and interaction of players are a fundamental aspect of MMO’s. We’re not talking about having the coolest and most diverse mechanics and functions in a game. We are talking about having basic functions to form a single group of 5 players and manage that group in WvW.

We’re not talking about spending massive resources and hiring tons of developers to fix a group UI. They currently have a fully functioning group UI that works in every single zone outside of WvW. It’s just idiodicy for Anet to have left this a year and frustrate a PvP player base that will move on to another MMO that offers better large scale PvP. I actually enjoy GW2 as an overall game but as soon as a better game comes out with a focus on PvP…. many will jump ship, myself included.

Players and guilds are simply frustrated at the inability to organize easily in GW2. Do I expect Anet to change their philosophy and priorites…. no. Do I expect Anet to actually listen to the players…. after a year it’s obvious not happening, even for simple things.

Anet will do whatever they want, it’s their game…. that certainly doesn’t mean I can’t express my opinion of where they have dropped the ball on some areas.

If your reading this Devon, could you tell us where/how to bring up this issue, so that the correct department gets it?

i think the main reason this hasn’t been addressed yet is that the complaints have been far too vague

meep.2601:

i think the main reason this hasn’t been addressed yet is that the complaints have been far too vague

No Meep they have not. Since guild wars 2 went live I’ve personally posted over a dozen detailed posts in Bug forums, over a dozen in Suggestion forums and WELL over a dozen in the WvW forums.

After posting in the bug and suggestion forums my post is usually buried a few pages back within 24 hours. Search results don’t bring up any of my earlier posts. As we have no dedicated WvW suggestion forums, it just gets lost among the massive PvE suggestions and bug reports.

They are aware of the issue, I guess they are just expecting another department to fix it…. I really have no idea.

meep.2601:

i think the main reason this hasn’t been addressed yet is that the complaints have been far too vague

Nope, that’s not it. Many, many, many detailed bug reports have been sent. Plus, just how detailed does it really have to be? It is a glaringly obvious problem, unlike most bugs. Anet employees play WvW and I’m sure they have experienced it personally (P.S. Wide Charr is awesome).

Here is the far more likely reason, this is a WvW only problem that the WvW team is not involved in. As such, it has slipped through the cracks.

Heck, for all we know, there is no one assigned to Party UI anymore. After all, the party UI was finished before the game was released. They probably just re-assigned that developer to a living world project or fractals or the culling fix or something. Every last developer at Anet could know about this problem, and all think “that is someone else’s department.”

yes it was a poor troll attempt in reference to Hugh’s excuse “your reports were too vague” about glitching through doors

the only real reason i can think of as to why this hasn’t been fixed yet is….anet loves to fail

meep.2601:

yes it was a poor troll attempt in reference to Hugh’s excuse “your reports were too vague” about glitching through doors

the only real reason i can think of as to why this hasn’t been fixed yet is….anet loves to fail

Sorry meep, i didn’t catch your intentions from that post.

I don’t think Anet loves to fail. I think they are doing their best to improve things. I just feel that more resources and perhaps a little closer look at what players feel is important need to occur.

They probably have a big wishlist of things to change and are just giving us the stuff that’s easier to add. Improved grouping systems is paramount for me, and I hope they can find a way to get it on the game sooner.

titanlectro.5029:

If your reading this Devon, could you tell us where/how to bring up this issue, so that the correct department gets it?

That would be nice to find out who’s directly in charge of resolving this. Can I speak to the UI manager please!

This needs a bump as it’s been another patch with no fix.