Guild Wars 2

So, I don’t do a ton of damage on my roamer, it’s a bit half and half tanky/damage and when underwater I’m especially useless. When rangers go under and I down them I cannot kill them quick enough before the pet rez gets them up. CC, (what little I have underwater) only kinda works for getting the pet from rezzing them but I still can’t kill them fast enough before it’s back to rez them again.

Is there a way to combat this? Inb4 get more CC for the pet. My underwater CC options are limited and I don’t really want to stack my utilities underwater for just fighting 1 class.

I guess I kinda just answered my own question with get more CC but stacking abilitys just for 1 class is kinda stupid. I came here to ask a legit question but turned more into a rant since the answer to my question is not something I’m willing to do. Unless there is another strategy I didn’t think of.

Don’t fight under water? Not trying to be a smart kitten but if it’s happening to you on a regular basis you might want to rethink your strategies.

But yeah, Rangers are particularly strong under water for just that reason, the pet rez is very powerful. I find it stupid personally that there’s no option to stomp people under water.

Well, the last 3 rangers I’ve fought have ran to the water once they started to lose so… just let em go I guess, just not fight rangers at all? I’m relatively new to this, that sounds… pretty dumb.

Paddy.3985:

Well, the last 3 rangers I’ve fought have ran to the water once they started to lose so… just let em go I guess, just not fight rangers at all? I’m relatively new to this, that sounds… pretty dumb.

Some classes can’t fight underwater, and if the enemy is a ranger you’re done. If you’re not fighting 3vs1, don’t fight any ranger underwater because if the ranger isn’t the worst ranger on earth you’ll lose.

Not dying is a victory in itself. So, don’t chase and be happy.

I would put killing a ranger underwater in the same boat as chasing a GS warrior/thief or dueling a PU mez. Don’t spend anymore then a few minuets trying, because it not worth it. Some classes are good a one particular thing.

the only thing that you can do about pet rezing under water in interrupt it, or not let the fight get there in the first place.

I have found memories of holding the ruins on Raid on the Capricorn against 4 people while I was in the downed state. You should be able to draw some information from that.

Havent you heard, rangers were given super powers this patch.

Smash pet to kitten. If he/she switch pet even in downed state, smash pet again. Also use some poisons on ranger if available to slow the ressing down.

Paddy.3985:

Well, the last 3 rangers I’ve fought have ran to the water once they started to lose so… just let em go I guess, just not fight rangers at all? I’m relatively new to this, that sounds… pretty dumb.

Well, they know you will have hard time killing them underwater so why shouldn’t they run there. You can’t do much about it, only during the fight on land, try to sort of pull them away from water? So they’d be too far by the time they want to run into it or save cc skills to stop them from getting into water.

. . . what is it lately with things which make rangers unfair which was always there?

It really all comes down to interrupting the pet both on land and in the water. If you can interrupt the pet to cancel the activation of the 3rd down state skill, the Ranger loses the second source of healing.

Welcome to 10 years ago.

PS: don’t follow a ranger underwater, they can often handle 3 and sometimes 4v1. Just don’t do it.

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia” – but only slightly less well-known is this: “Never go in against a Ranger underwater when death is on the line”*

• - Engineers are excluded

Avoid underwater combat altogether unless it’s necessary, that’s why I’m glad they got rid of the lake and hate the fact you lose stacks once you jump into water. Sorry Quaggan fans..

So basically rangers are like Aquaman, great when in the water but absolutely worthless on land.

Straegen.2938:

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia” – but only slightly less well-known is this: “Never go in against a Ranger underwater when death is on the line”*

• - Engineers are excluded

I once fought an engineer underwater. WvW score ticked 2 times before one of use was downed. It was me first, but downing a ranger is only 10% of the fight. I honestly think I can say with no exaggeration the fight lasted a good 50 minutes, and I only think I won because he just quit or fell asleep.

warriorjrd.8695:

I once fought an engineer underwater. WvW score ticked 2 times before one of use was downed. It was me first, but downing a ranger is only 10% of the fight. I honestly think I can say with no exaggeration the fight lasted a good 50 minutes, and I only think I won because he just quit or fell asleep.

Engis underwater are beasts. Partially because their kit attacks are mostly AoEs but mainly because the same weapons they mastered on land work the same underwater. Chasing a Bomb Kit engi underwater is near suicide.

Straegen.2938:

You fell victim to one of the classic blunders – The most famous of which is “never get involved in a land war in Asia” – but only slightly less well-known is this: “Never go in against a Ranger underwater when death is on the line”*

• - Engineers are excluded

Inconceivable Wonderbread. Inconceviable

There is 3 factors that makes rangers particularily strong underwater:
Their healing (which is mostly chunks over time through Troll Unguent)
Their Damage in relation to other professions (Spear damage is close to that of warrior hammer on land)
And lastly, the pet being a strong healer. Most pets underwater also got quite good sustain.

How to beat rangers underwater;
CC them A LOT
Kill pet FAST. If that pet is alive, you won’t win. If ranger swaps, kill the other pet. Unless the ranger is BM (few are), you should be able to kill that pet quite fast.
Apply poison on the pet and stack CC on ranger so it cannot reach the surface.

warriorjrd.8695:

Welcome to 10 years ago.

PS: don’t follow a ranger underwater, they can often handle 3 and sometimes 4v1. Just don’t do it.

If it was 10 years ago it would be GW1 beta and you would be looking forward to REAL pvp rather than the zergmeleetrain that it is now :/

Dilligaf Wyt.1867:

So basically rangers are like Aquaman, great when in the water but absolutely worthless on land.

What’s ironic is the big class update they gave rangers 1.5 years ago was coined the aquaman patch because every other class in the game got real updates and all rangers got was an update to their underwater skills.

OnyX.9027:

warriorjrd.8695:

Welcome to 10 years ago.

PS: don’t follow a ranger underwater, they can often handle 3 and sometimes 4v1. Just don’t do it.

If it was 10 years ago it would be GW1 beta and you would be looking forward to REAL pvp rather than the zergmeleetrain that it is now :/

m8.

was sarcasm m8

was making a point that rangers have been lethal underwater since the 1800s m8

that was also sarcasm m8

GW1 wasn’t even out in the 1800s, let alone GW2. You’re off by a good 30 years or something (not very good at math.)

1800s ? yeah wtf dude? Video games was not invented yet !!

striderpak.9246:

1800s ? yeah wtf dude? Video games was not invented yet !!

Ranger in chess m7, never send your queen after the ranger when it went underwater. Was a stronk piece.

warriorjrd.8695:

striderpak.9246:

1800s ? yeah wtf dude? Video games was not invented yet !!

Ranger in chess m7, never send your queen after the ranger when it went underwater. Was a stronk piece.

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Oh the Oracle, the Oracle … You get promo chips from Tom too?

I really love the underwater combat, sadly it is so riddled with bugs, so Arenanet decided to remove most of it from the game.

Actually the ranger underwater bug of the pet being able to rez him sometimes even when the pet is dead, has been in the game as long as I remember. With eagle eye rangers have superb range underwater. I rank ranger as the strongest profession underwater, followed by warrior and necromancer. Warrior has mobility, block, great burst and dps and the same sustain is there. Necromancer’s death shroud #1 under water is amazing and the weapon skills are not bad either.

Engineers used to be great underwater, but the grenade kit has had several underwater methods, making it almost useless against anything than mobs. Kiting the grenades at range is superbly easy. A long time the grenades were bugged and could trigger twice per skill application and this allowed engis to do huge dps. This bug was fixed. The grenade spread was increased already in early 2013. The grenade barrage is utterly useless and often all the 7 grenades miss even at point blank range. Underwater engineer has few strong attacks: elixir gun auto attack, bomb kit and harpoon gun #2, #3 and #4. Engi harpoon #1 is probably the worst auto attack in the game, amazingly slow and easy to kite and bugged as well (instead of being a homing missile, it just misses!). Engi harpoon #2 and #4 still have glitches and sometimes fail to hit even immobile pve creatures. Power engi has the best burst in the game (above or under water) if the enemy is stupid to come point blank range and the engi double taps harpoon gun #2 (dmg multiplier is 4.2 = utterly OP!!). I have one shot eles with it, but the dmg multiplier is much weaker at range (1/3).

BooDuh.2841:

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Inconceivable Wonderbread. Inconceviable

Was wondering if anyone would catch the reference.