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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

Many of us WvWers don’t play much PvE, some not at all. The only time we spend in PvE is to get an item quickly, or to que for WvW. We have bought content that we now cannot use. Town clothes and toys were disabled from WvW without warning, and without explanation. This is also going to result in a decent loss in gem sales now and in the future. Half the items in the gemstore are toys, costumes, and other goofy stuff. I have no need to buy any of that now if it won’t work. I’ll just keep my money in my pocket. It’s also shown many players that investing in the gem shop might be a bad idea, as any content they purchase could be disabled and/or removed without compensation!

We would like to use content that we bought. If there is an issue with a few gimmicky toys and tonics, fix them! The #2 skill on executioners axe doesn’t even work well in costume brawl, which is what it was designed for. So if it doesn’t work in costume brawl, and it’s an exploit in WvW, then FIX THE SKILL PLEASE. It’s an exploit in PvE as well, so town clothes should just be disabled everywhere and removed from the game if we’re not going to fix a little problem like 1 or 2 skills and tonics.

Many of us took to goofing off during the duller moments of WvW, like escorting yaks, transporting supply, building siege, scouting, repairing walls and doors. Now it’s just another boring task. Tarnished coast is notorious for having fun dolyak parades and battles in costume!

WvW players often comment about how they believe Anet cares less about them than PvE players. I don’t always believe that to be true, but lets examine another recent situation, the flamekissed armor. People complained, and got it changed. It was announced to players, and it was stated that if players didn’t like the new look when it comes out, they can get a refund.

Now lets look at the disabling of town clothes for WvW. No announcement, no explanation. Turned off completely, no refunds, not even an Anet response. Why? I’d hate to say it’s because it’s “just WvW, so who cares”, but that’s what it looks like!

What if when Magic Find changed, you had just told all the PvE players that they would get nothing for their gear they had?…. That would have been a disaster! Well this IS a disaster for many of us. I only play video games to have fun, don’t take it away!

Please let us have fun again in a game mode that is full of drama and long periods of tedious play.

If you loved, and now miss your town clothes shenanigans, post up your support and some screenshots of goofin off in WvW. I sure wish I had taken more to remember some of the great moments I had with them and other players.

Thanks to Buddy for making a poll! Cast your vote!

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Posted by: Phantom.8130

Phantom.8130

kites and pirate costumes were OP, they needed to be nerfed. because nothing’s more terrifying than a pirate with a kite.

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Posted by: Jamais vu.5284

Jamais vu.5284

I support this.

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Posted by: spiritus.7983

spiritus.7983

I used to go around in a nacked charr with a panda red hat and a kite, trolling the nord camp dead ppl

But I still dont support this message, we have enough useless ppl already doing nothing in ww except preventing the others from que to join. So NO.

Evil, GH -Charr rule.
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A Human is smart. A group of Humans are idiots.

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

I used to go around in a nacked charr with a panda red hat and a kite, trolling the nord camp dead ppl

But I still dont support this message, we have enough useless ppl already doing nothing in ww except preventing the others from que to join. So NO.

Escorting dolyaks, building siege, repairing walls, repairing doors, scouting, running supply. These are all “useless” activities to perform in town clothes?

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Posted by: geist.3980

geist.3980

this post could only be more productive with a poll. Anet loves polls.

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Posted by: Buddy.7563

Buddy.7563

this post could only be more productive with a poll. Anet loves polls.

Ask, and you shall receive.
http://strawpoll.me/817138

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Posted by: Stillmoon.6894

Stillmoon.6894

for kittens that like bugs and exploits, but the answer is going to be a huge NO.

“Dream and hope sundered my world, it will no longer wreak such sorrow”

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

this post could only be more productive with a poll. Anet loves polls.

Ask, and you shall receive.
http://strawpoll.me/817138

Thanks for this, I’m going to include it in the original post!

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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

I support this thread.

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Posted by: Kaos.9162

Kaos.9162

Pretty small sample size so far, but boy is that poll a close one.

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Posted by: Deli.1302

Deli.1302

this post could only be more productive with a poll. Anet loves polls.

No they don’t. They know that polls give biased results.

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Posted by: naphack.9346

naphack.9346

Screw town clothes. I want bundles back.

The only crime, turrets committed, is being good against the celestial meta.
The mob has spoken and the turrets shall be burnt at the stake.

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Posted by: Haralin.1473

Haralin.1473

please anet please fix real problems before do this.

Haralin Engineer
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Posted by: Aberrant.6749

Aberrant.6749

People were bad and abused some costumes/morphs, so they took them away from everyone… which was the right thing to do tbh.

Blame those that were abusing it.

Why are people role playing in wvw anyways? o.O

this post could only be more productive with a poll. Anet loves polls.

No they don’t. They know that polls give biased results.

I wish I could upvote this.

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Posted by: Simonoly.4352

Simonoly.4352

It’s definitely in Anet’s interest to re-enable town clothing in WvW. People who exclusively play WvW do buy town clothing and simply won’t anymore. Seems strange that Anet would choose to dissuade people from purchasing gems like this.

Can’t Anet simply disable any tonic/toy/costume that allows for some sort of exploit? It all just comes across a little lazy to just disable them all.

Gandara

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Posted by: eithinan.9841

eithinan.9841

I play WvW every day and I don’t need town clothes to have fun. I vote no.

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Posted by: bokkieskitten.8023

bokkieskitten.8023

I’d like a refund on all of my costumes Anet.

Or better yet, remove the darn skills and allow us to layer them over armour like in GW1.

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Companion of Starlight Honeybuns.
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Posted by: Aye.8392

Aye.8392

Gimme back my balloon!

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Posted by: AJP.8610

AJP.8610

Re-enable town clothes in WvW please as I only use them in WvW as I don’t PvE. This was a rather sudden change. If not then I want a refund. And since they’re clothes… they can be returned :p

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Posted by: NargofWoV.4267

NargofWoV.4267

You guys do know there was a particular issue with town clothing and fast travel across a map.. right?

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Posted by: ptitminou.6489

ptitminou.6489

You guys do know there was a particular issue with town clothing and fast travel across a map.. right?

Probably, they were also probably using it

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Posted by: Jaxs.5830

Jaxs.5830

You guys do know there was a particular issue with town clothing and fast travel across a map.. right?

You know that it was just one particular issue that could have been fixed… right?

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Posted by: LunarNacht.8913

LunarNacht.8913

You guys do know there was a particular issue with town clothing and fast travel across a map.. right?

Probably, they were also probably using it

Not really, there were many others that liked using towncloths, while watching gvgs for example.
Remove the problematic abilitys not everything else. Next thing they remove will be transformation tonics?

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

You guys do know there was a particular issue with town clothing and fast travel across a map.. right?

Yeah I heard something about that.

If there is an issue with a few gimmicky toys and tonics, fix them! The #2 skill on executioners axe doesn’t even work well in costume brawl, which is what it was designed for. So if it doesn’t work in costume brawl, and it’s an exploit in WvW, then FIX THE SKILL PLEASE. It’s an exploit in PvE as well, so town clothes should just be disabled everywhere and removed from the game if we’re not going to fix a little problem like 1 or 2 skills and tonics.

Oh wait it was in the original post, made by me.

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Posted by: Alacrity.4312

Alacrity.4312

I wonder why all town items were disabled?
It means that the workaround for the Vampirism rune bug can’t be used (4th-slot effect stops working after res until you switch to town clothes then back again), making that set worthless in WvW.

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Posted by: WilliamDaBloody.2591

WilliamDaBloody.2591

I wonder why all town items were disabled?
It means that the workaround for the Vampirism rune bug can’t be used (4th-slot effect stops working after res until you switch to town clothes then back again), making that set worthless in WvW.

They where disabled because of the Executioner Outfit. You could move extremly fast with its skill #2 (large leap on a 3s cooldown).

Beside that in the past there were other issues with town clothes. Once disabled Anet does not have to care if some brawl skills have impact on WvW. Good move. This stuff has no place in WvW the same way it has to place in PvP.

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

I wonder why all town items were disabled?
It means that the workaround for the Vampirism rune bug can’t be used (4th-slot effect stops working after res until you switch to town clothes then back again), making that set worthless in WvW.

They where disabled because of the Executioner Outfit. You could move extremly fast with its skill #2 (large leap on a 3s cooldown).

Beside that in the past there were other issues with town clothes. Once disabled Anet does not have to care if some brawl skills have impact on WvW. Good move. This stuff has no place in WvW the same way it has to place in PvP.

PvP is very different. matches are short, maps are tiny, combat is a constant. In WvW combat is not always a constant, in fact, you spend the least amount of time in WvW on actual combat.

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Posted by: WilliamDaBloody.2591

WilliamDaBloody.2591

Sure PvP is differrent, just saying town clothes have no right to exist outside PvE and it’s good that they were recently disabled in WvW where you could use them before.

If it is just for the skins itself, that’s an arguable topic. But they are tied to brawl or other fun skills mostly. So they don’t belong into WvW where they might introduce an imbalance as a side effect.

Just turning them off was easier for Anet then to disable any skills or effects they might have now or will have the future. It’s good move. Now then can do whatever they have in mind without thinking of any consequences in a non PvE environment.

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

Sure PvP is differrent, just saying town clothes have no right to exist outside PvE and it’s good that they were recently disabled in WvW where you could use them before.

If it is just for the skins itself, that’s an arguable topic. But they are tied to brawl or other fun skills mostly. So they don’t belong into WvW where they might introduce an imbalance as a side effect.

Just turning them off was easier for Anet then to disable any skills or effects they might have now or will have the future. It’s good move. Now then can do whatever they have in mind without thinking of any consequences in a non PvE environment.

Actually it’s simply foolish and sloppy design on the part of the costume brawl team. They add skills that don’t even work in costume brawl, or they tag skills on accident. For example, the axe 4 skill was actually a leap finisher, why was it a leap finisher? It had no reason to be a finisher in costume brawl, it was just sloppy design-work.

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Posted by: WilliamDaBloody.2591

WilliamDaBloody.2591

It’s a leap finisher because you leap. They just re-use existing stuff in the game for different purposes and change some values in their tools.

But I fully agree that Anets became more sloppy than ever.

And this won’t change and no special QA is put into costume brawl skills as it is very unimportant, hence they disabled in in WvW to avoid any future problems.

And avoidind potential future problems in WvW that already doesn’t get much attention is something I support.

That you feel disappointed about not using stuff you bought as before is understandable. But don’t hold a breath for a rollback or even a refund. For Anet, this problem is now solved for ever.

Moving on now, as I have nothing to add the topic anymore and just wanted to point out that there are players who support Anet’s move here.

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Posted by: Bunnehboo.6025

Bunnehboo.6025

I dont see a reason for them to bring back town clothes.

People on the sidelines can still just take off all their armor and there ppl who care know not to attack them and ppl who come and attack anyone anyway can and will still do so.

You can still costume brawl with tonics. Though i have a sceenshots of ppl doing that in spawn area…

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

Still wishing something will happen about this. Down-times in WvW are awful boring now.

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Posted by: Cynz.9437

Cynz.9437

..so you can exploit town clothes again? no ty

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Posted by: WhiteAndMilky.2514

WhiteAndMilky.2514

..so you can exploit town clothes again? no ty

Phew! Good thing we already addressed that!… In the original post… if you had read it.

If there is an issue with a few gimmicky toys and tonics, fix them! The #2 skill on executioners axe doesn’t even work well in costume brawl, which is what it was designed for. So if it doesn’t work in costume brawl, and it’s an exploit in WvW, then FIX THE SKILL PLEASE. It’s an exploit in PvE as well, so town clothes should just be disabled everywhere and removed from the game if we’re not going to fix a little problem like 1 or 2 skills and tonics.

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Posted by: Draygo.9473

Draygo.9473

I dont see a reason for them to bring back town clothes.

People on the sidelines can still just take off all their armor and there ppl who care know not to attack them and ppl who come and attack anyone anyway can and will still do so.

You can still costume brawl with tonics. Though i have a sceenshots of ppl doing that in spawn area…

If you take your cloths off and someone attacks you, you will probably die.

If you took your town cloths off and switched to town cloths, if someone attacked you your armor would automatically be put on.

It would be much better if anet would just fix the exploitive skills, for the axe leap just root the player for a second before the player leaps just like the cat tonic leap. There, fixed.

Please respect your scouts/dolyak escorts/keep campers want to have a little fun while they do the boring mundane tasks of watching over objectives while you wxp train somewhere else.

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