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Posted by: AnniMira.2506

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I would like to see videos on how to solo capture camps. Different professions.

I have taken borderland south west camp with necro by first approaching from south west, not all are aggroed.

I have fighted and gave-up in the same camp with condi PU mesmer after 30+ minutes of aggro/reset fest. This camp has reset places so close to the camp that with my condi mesmer play style I could not avoid resets – and respawns.

I cannot take camps with power greatsword mesmer.

I cannot take camps with warrior. In borderland north camp, it is nothing but interrupt fest and my warrior dies.

My staff ele dies in shrines as well.

I test professions/builds by solo capping camps. If I cannot cap a camp, the profession/build is bad. I’m just casual, non-pro player – I think there is nothing wrong in that. Condi PU mesmer is best I have for solo capturing camps.

Note: I don’t have wvw abilities for guard killing / defending – that is +20% damage, -20% incoming damage. Before taking the abilities, I would like to see videos and try again.

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Posted by: psizone.8437

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I can’t record videos on my PC since my graphics card is slightly busted but I can give you a little advice.

Camps are definitely harder now, Anet decided for some reason that instead of leaving camps (and towers and keeps) as a mainly PvP defensive experience, they’d buff the guards and make the PvE portion more time consuming.

Saying that, as a Warrior you have access to multiple stabilities, use them and the camps become immensely easier. Almost all of the guards spam their interrupts and stuns at the start of the fight so aggro however many you’re comfortable with, let them get close and pop stability. (Warrior heals are a bit crap at the moment but should be getting buffed tomorrow so that’ll help you survive, too.)

Power Mesmer isn’t too bad, start off with GS1 to aggro the guards then use GS4 and GS2 when they’re clumped. Don’t use shatters until the guards are nearly dead. If you see any healing you can use the daze shatter to interrupt that and then reapply your phantasms and clones. Stay at range until the guards numbers dwindle, take blink and decoy if you can and if you’re a Chronomancer the Gravity Well Elite is great for when they’re bundled up.

Edit: Forgot about Staff Ele, if you’re mostly berserker stats it’s easier. Use the Elite Glyph of Elementals and summon that first (I usually use the fire one) and command it to attack the enemies with you slightly out of their range then Meteor Shower and Lava Font them to death, fire 4 if the enemies come close and keep applying the Lava Font whilst autoattacking whichever enemy you like.

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Posted by: Radian.2478

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I tried a supply camp solo on each profession a while back. Not much success on mesmer lol…

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Posted by: Fellfoot.8156

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I mainly play necro and warrior. I can comment on those two for you. It is possible to solo the camps with hammer/gs warrior; however, it’s not as fast as it is with necros. The approach you take and how many you draw aggro on are key. If you can manage to draw aggro on only a couple guards and the supervisor, it’s easier. Just pull them to one spot and kill them, then inch your way into the edge of the ring and the camp will flip while the rest of the guards just ignore you.

It’s quite a bit easier on a necro. Get within range and drop a mark on the supervisor, then drop well bombs on whatever comes after you, use shroud skills to finish them off. Again, just get into the edge of the ring and the rest of the guards will ignore you.

If the camp is fortified, you might want to first take out the guards that roam into the approach you take to the camp.

I don’t have any vids of soloing camps, but I might make a few for you.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

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I imagine it’s mostly a build issue. As NPCs are stupid, you generally just want damage gear.

I just made a crappy video on the spot: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=759adsrj9fY&feature=youtu.be

Excuses/Explanations:

  • I don’t usually record because I play this game on a peeled potato. I’m surprised it didn’t explode. I still don’t know if the video is watchable on Youtube.
  • Minimal effort was put into actually playing; about 5 minutes to figure out how to record and record it. (STILL MORE TIME THAN WAS PUT INTO THE BORDERLANDS :P) However, it is fairly true that I’m not very good at this game, especially not with mesmers.
  • I took SW camp on another borderland, but someone came in to help at the very end, so that was disqualified. I figured S camp might be easier, so I approached a lot closer than I have to. I actually do have said video, if OP actually cares. I actually managed to almost get killed because of stupidity.
  • The OP brought up mesmer, so I didn’t know Chrono was allowed. I took signet of inspiration because normally I took Chrono’s 25% movespeed and trashed my traveler runes because I’ll never play base mes again. Naturally this build is kitten.
  • But remember to have 3 illusions before you randomly press the explode buttons
  • GS does more damage further away; don’t do what I did.
  • If this was a speedrun, i’d certainly be kicked.
  • I died soon after this video as I ran into someone while fiddling with video settings.
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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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Come on archon, that’s a kittenty T1 camp

Capping a T3 camp on an all gyro scrapper (just uploaded, dont know if its 1080p yet)

Took about 2 minutes from engagement to camp clear I think.

Not my greatest of moments as it did get a little hairy a few seconds as I did go facetank in rather than skim a few guards off first. I didnt have to face the patrol either or extra guards from dollys. The problem is the stun + zealot spin for the win combo. That is absolutely lethal. Got to avoid the first stuns (all them guards coming at you) and the pulls (cabalists). Once you get past that, its usually just to focus fire until you get a few down, then its easy peasy.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

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Good video

Now, now, I think it’s a bit much to ask for me to go even deeper in the borderlands! That implies I actually know where things are xD But yea, I think a lot of the problem is that OP may just be running into upgraded camps.

I’m uploading a upgraded camp on a staff ele atm; that was pretty ugly >.>

Here is the terrible ele video (not worth watching, just leaving this as a record): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-ZXjql5GaRo Honestly, I sorta just hit lots of buttons as ele and did really poorly as a result. I spend several minutes trying to kill stuff that ends up getting leashed too far and resetting.

And just because, here’s a scrapper one too; since it’s a class I’m not totally horrible with: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eUx59b-7JEM&feature=youtu.be :p

I did check if it was t3 or not before heading there, but you can see cabalists and stuff as well as guards on the outskirts.

It’s nowhere near as good as Dawdler’s time, but I have an excuse that happens a bit in the video! Sorta. Also, I spec tanky because I’m bad and I can’t dodge, but I was in no real danger the whole time, so it’s sorta idiot proof. Good for, that is xD I really handled fields poorly (use it with leaps)and was a bit too cautious, but some things weren’t expected and for some reason I forgot about detection pulse.

Also, RIP Stealth Gyro.

The most proud thing of the 2nd video was probably my ability to reach SE camp from rampart easily without spending 3 hours lost or something. Now that’a video you wouldn’t want to see.

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Posted by: Trepidation Lost.3469

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on rev i can clear maxed t3 camps with hyleks easily :P (power rev)

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Posted by: insanemaniac.2456

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on rev i can clear maxed t3 camps with hyleks easily :P (power rev)

sounds like CoR and or sword are op

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Posted by: Andromeda.8293

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It’s not too hard to do on ele. You can do it much cleaner than my examples – but just los/pull to you, cc+aoe blind of necessary, then aoe dps

https://youtu.be/BO5WDPpoI8I camps and shrines

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Posted by: msalakka.4653

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Are we seriously talking about how to flip a camp?

Really?

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Posted by: Junkpile.7439

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Is it hard to capture camp. If i don’t remember wrong normal wvw mobs are joke and can’t even hurt you.

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Posted by: psizone.8437

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Is it hard to capture camp. If i don’t remember wrong normal wvw mobs are joke and can’t even hurt you.

They were buffed, still not much of a threat but in groups and with the wrong build and/or playstyle they can be a challenge.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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Is it hard to capture camp. If i don’t remember wrong normal wvw mobs are joke and can’t even hurt you.

They were buffed, still not much of a threat but in groups and with the wrong build and/or playstyle they can be a challenge.

Exactly. In my video I take out the camp easily with the scrapper (I only fail T3 camps maybe 1 in 20 times and then its always my own fault for being extra careless) but I got plenty of classes on builds that simply dont work. Elementalist (I suck at it), thief and warrior in particular. Tried many various builds, just cant do it reliably. I was quite shocked at my own pathetic performance with warrior because I really should have done better, lol. My nomad zerg guardian can barely take a T1 camp without mobs respawning, but at least I know the reason for failure :p

So yeah. We can still discuss camps. I understand why people can have problems.

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Posted by: ArchonWing.9480

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Yea, I didn’t understand the issue myself , but then I realized there’s a big difference between upgraded and non upgraded camps. In reality, little has changed but thanks to autoupgrades, you go against more upgraded camps than before. Especially if nobody’s been playing on the map.

Although OP seems to have trouble with shrines too so it may be more basic issues. But there’s also another thing where if you don’t do it well enough you might actually run into someone else; yea that’s sorta low probability atm, but w/e

And actually I learned a few things, like you can actually check the upgrade status of enemy targets by clicking on them. And the videos posted were good.

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Posted by: MaximillianVonSchatten.6278

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I think the camps is easier now because the supervisor is off in a corner and you don’t have to aggro and kill every guard since they are all standing outside the circle.

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Posted by: Straegen.2938

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Staff Dare Devil is ridiculously easy even fully upgraded ones. I will try and remember to record it next time I take one. I haven’t flipped one with my Chrono in a while but before the balance patch it was crazy easy. DH, Reaper and Scrapper has an easy time as well.

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Posted by: Sinbold.8723

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I would like to see videos on how to solo capture camps. Different professions.

I have taken borderland south west camp with necro by first approaching from south west, not all are aggroed.

I have fighted and gave-up in the same camp with condi PU mesmer after 30+ minutes of aggro/reset fest. This camp has reset places so close to the camp that with my condi mesmer play style I could not avoid resets – and respawns.

I cannot take camps with power greatsword mesmer.

I cannot take camps with warrior. In borderland north camp, it is nothing but interrupt fest and my warrior dies.

My staff ele dies in shrines as well.

I test professions/builds by solo capping camps. If I cannot cap a camp, the profession/build is bad. I’m just casual, non-pro player – I think there is nothing wrong in that. Condi PU mesmer is best I have for solo capturing camps.

Note: I don’t have wvw abilities for guard killing / defending – that is +20% damage, -20% incoming damage. Before taking the abilities, I would like to see videos and try again.

I flip tier 3 camps solo on my zerker GS mesmer all the time. It’s all about agro. I don’t have the capability (that I’m aware of) to take a video of it. I concentrate on the Cabalists first, since they’re the ones that will down me if I over-agro. And agro is key- you want to make sure you don’t pull the entire camp to you at the same time or you’ll be overwhelmed. Take the trait that gives you might when you or your clones use spatial surge (Imagined Burden under Domination), start with Phantasmal Berserker and then immediately hit Mirror Images, then watch the might stacks pile up. Using Berserker gear all around, with maybe a little Valk mixed in, really helps. With might stacks, I hit around 3500 and change for attacking power, sometimes a little more. Food for extra power helps as well. I’m a sylvari, so sometimes I use Take Root elite to give the NPC’s something else besides me or my clones to attack, sometimes I take Gravity Well (chronomancer elite).

A PU condi build doesn’t work as well because the NPC’s don’t attack near as much as a player would, nor do they move as much, so your big condis (confusion and torment) don’t do as much damage as you need them to if you want to flip the camp. It IS doable, but it takes more than twice as long as a zerker build to accomplish.

I don’t play my warrior as much in GW2 as I did in GW1, so I cannot give you advice there, but Cerby.1069 could probably give you build advice. I’ve seen the dude play his warrior and just about solo Overlook. He and I may not always agree about stuff on these forums, but I gotta give him props on his warrior, ‘cuz if someone else told me what I’ve seen with my own eyes, I wouldn’t have believed them. (Now don’t get a big head, Lux! lol)

With staff ele, it’s all about the rotation. I’ve seen youtube videos of eles, and the important thing to watch is the rotation of skills. Again, be careful of agro.

My guardian/DH is in ascended vitality power toughness gear with PTV trinkets, GS/longbow, and he’s fun to take camps with, but too slow to run around with. Sometimes go with Sword/focus, which is a lot easier than GS because of the blinds and blocks. Power food all around.

Ranger in exotic berserker armor, PTV trinkets, taking fern dog for regen and bear for condi removal, power food or seaweed food for movement damage bonus. Let the pet agro then pull the pet back, pulling the NPC’s, Longbow with piercing trait, GS swap, or if druid go staff/GS or staff/longbow.

For me at least, it’s not about whether I can flip a tier 3 camp, it’s how fast. If you over agro, do your best to run away to break and reset, then try again. You can do it, just watch your agro.

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Posted by: Sinbold.8723

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Dawdler.8521!!!! Great video! I thought, “oh no, he’s toast,” at the 17 second mark, but wow, you handled that great! Can’t believe you had a Zealot and a Cabalist left up for so long and did that well. Stuns and knockbacks ftw!

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Posted by: erKo.9586

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With my full-tank guardian it took me a while to flip a camp because of my low dmg.

Now i play fully power Reaper(GS+Staff) I put all necro-bombs infront of the camp-npc´s then i aggro them so they run directly into my 5 bombs, then i do some autottacks with my greatsword then i Go reaper form and spam spell 2+4 then its gg after about 10 seconds :P so its really funny to flip camps with necro(reaper)
1 tip if you have problem is to not tag every camp-npc, take 2-3 to start with then continue, in the new maps i also noticed you can flip the camp without killing all guards… if u go into the cirkle and stay at the start.

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Posted by: DarcShriek.5829

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I usually use a ranger. Let the pet agro and stand back and shoot my longbow. I can also use my revenant to solo camps.

Ranger is definitely easiest though.

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Posted by: Andromeda.8293

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Are we seriously talking about how to flip a camp?

Really?

Everyone is a different skill level! They came to ask for help, and offering a hand is the nice thing to do!

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Posted by: eldenbri.1059

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I think it’s a totally normal question to ask as you get started in WvW. For sure, I spent a lot of my early WvW time learning how to take camps. With some of my old builds, taking a T3 camp solo was a very tedious thing.

This is an upgraded one that I did with a condi chrono build a while back. I don’t use this build any more, but you can see that with very high uptime on blocks and dire armor, you can kind of just sit there. Most likely this doesn’t work as well today after the alacrity change.

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Posted by: ShadowCatz.8437

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I would like to see videos on how to solo capture camps. Different professions.

I have taken borderland south west camp with necro by first approaching from south west, not all are aggroed.

I have fighted and gave-up in the same camp with condi PU mesmer after 30+ minutes of aggro/reset fest. This camp has reset places so close to the camp that with my condi mesmer play style I could not avoid resets – and respawns.

I cannot take camps with power greatsword mesmer.

I cannot take camps with warrior. In borderland north camp, it is nothing but interrupt fest and my warrior dies.

My staff ele dies in shrines as well.

I test professions/builds by solo capping camps. If I cannot cap a camp, the profession/build is bad. I’m just casual, non-pro player – I think there is nothing wrong in that. Condi PU mesmer is best I have for solo capturing camps.

Note: I don’t have wvw abilities for guard killing / defending – that is +20% damage, -20% incoming damage. Before taking the abilities, I would like to see videos and try again.

For Mesmer and Chronomesmer I would think Inspiration with its healing on shatter (and condition removal when you use heal) could help you to stay alive. You might want to consider which heal skill to use as Signet of Ether would need three illusions to get you more regeneration or you would might want to shatter too often and then Mirror (use Chaos: Master of Manipulation) to get only 12 sec recharge (this work excellent with Runes of Defender to get Aegis or other Runes which trigger an effect on heal skill). Blink is also a Manipulation skill, so you would have both a stun break and re-position skill on 24 sec recharge with this trait (30 sec w/o).

If you have a Chronomancer you can use shield which both blocks and will summon phantasm (and will have chance to block again and get another phantasm). With Gravity Wells (which pulls enemies into its centre) you can combine this Well with Tides of Time from shield to both stun, get alacrity for both self and party and use Swords attack to damage more. Sword with leap (which also produce more illusions to shatter), vulnerability and evade from Blurred Frenzy work well to kill off Guards at camp. Combine that with staffs AoE (which also daze) and you enough to trigger interrupts even on a group of guards. Change your PU to Chaotic Interruption that way you will trigger interruption (effect) from even during normal attacks (and not only by using daze).

Use Sigil of Battle and Sigil of Strength (one is on swap and the other on crit). Together those sigils will give you rather fast more power and condition damage the longer you stay on staff. For Sword I use Sigil of Fire (as have only range of 240) and Sigil of Doom on shield for poison.

My trinkets are berserker and gear is rabid to get enough crit chance (around 40-50%). Weapon differ a bit, but I try to have some condi from stat here too.

From Well of Precognition you can get both Aegis (block) and stability (to prevent pulls from Cabalist), if you don’t go BD on shatter from Chaos. Interrupt (Chaotic Interruption) is better as you don’t have to use shatter to get that and can keep your illusions.

Try to kill as fast as possible veteran supervisor (but be careful not get hit from their knockdown) on you as those a key to cap a camp. Zealot is guards that can move very fast and other capabilities that can be devastating, if you don’t keep these kind of guards in check fast enough. Make sure that there isn’t a Dolly on its way towards that camp you are going to fight as that might add more guards which are guarding Dolly to your fights.

Wells and alacrity from Wells help a lot to regain both health (low recharge gets even more reduced) and get your other skills ready. Well of Recognition help with stab and blocks. Well of Gravity with pulls to reduce targets from going all over places and Well of Recall will get more alacrity for yourself on all skill (including your shatter skills) during that time frame it is active effect. Use CS to double up elite or simply as an extra blink (you will be transported back to where activated CS when it is over). With staff you will also be transported away from Chaos Storm which make you very mobile compared to GS. GS is also ok for camps, but is more power based weapon (not that many conditions).

Maybe you should consider food which provide you with less condition on yourself, then more on targets. Look into Loaf of Saffron Bread

Hope that this will be to some help with your Mesmer or Chronomesmer.

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Posted by: babazhook.6805

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I flip them pretty regular on s/d thief staff/pp thief or d/d condi thief upgraded or not. The easiest of the three would be the d/d condi thief. More guards actually means more heals. SOM caltrops daggerstorm are all very useful.

Now that on one of the builds it better to attack the fringes and kite away some of the opponents and kill them in detail while on another (d/d with condi and DB) it better to go right for the meat of the pack merely means you have to be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of your build.

I tend to want to take the scouts out first on thief when kiting. As a thief I am pretty immune to Immobs with my build. I am fast of foot so can keep the veteran supervisor out of reach . The scouts are ranged and spam blinds and when my damage shut down because of that I can not take the camp down as quickly.

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Posted by: Dangus.6572

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I flip them pretty regular on s/d thief staff/pp thief or d/d condi thief upgraded or not. The easiest of the three would be the d/d condi thief. More guards actually means more heals. SOM caltrops daggerstorm are all very useful.

Now that on one of the builds it better to attack the fringes and kite away some of the opponents and kill them in detail while on another (d/d with condi and DB) it better to go right for the meat of the pack merely means you have to be aware of the strengths and weaknesses of your build.

I tend to want to take the scouts out first on thief when kiting. As a thief I am pretty immune to Immobs with my build. I am fast of foot so can keep the veteran supervisor out of reach . The scouts are ranged and spam blinds and when my damage shut down because of that I can not take the camp down as quickly.

May be its out of topic but I can approve that to capture T3 camp + veterans with condi d/d thief is very easy.

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Posted by: Dawdler.8521

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Try to kill as fast as possible veteran supervisor (but be careful not get hit from their knockdown) on you as those a key to cap a camp.

In my experience its overwhelming numbers that kill, not the supervisor. I advice going with a priority of scouts→zealots/cabalists→guards→supervisor. Why scouts first? They are the weakest but their blinds really mess you up while fighting 6 other NPCs trying to tenderize your kitten . Guard weakness/stun also ruin your day, but the cabalists and zealots often do too much damage to ignore unless you got a ton of AoE and can burn them all down.

Personally I often engage with 1m or so buffed supervisor too so you got guards down when the buff go out, heh. Requires some legwork though.

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Posted by: Padd.1479

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I’m a thief and never ever thought about that it could be difficult to solo a camp. In smaller camps always go for the pistol ladies first and in the bigger ones i go for canbalists (i think they are called that) first and then the pistol ladies and then of course the charrs. burst one and then dodge a bit – repeat.

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