Guild Wars 2

From the latest patch notes:
Fixed an issue that caused Retaliation to do PvE levels of damage instead of PvP levels of damage.

Wiki doesn’t metion that Retaliation had a special PvP modifier for damage is this a known thing and is retaliation better or worse in WvW?

Retaliation got split between PvP and PvE several months ago, due to it being ridiculously strong against other players and jokingly worthless against PvE mobs. Apparently WvW was using the PvE modifiers, instead of the PvP ones.

Retaliation did about 33% less damage in PvP for a long time. It being a bit too punishing for casters in WvW, they changed this for WvW aswel over half a year ago. This remained unchanged.

But in EOTM, they used the PvE (old WvW) modifiers for retal. Making it way to strong again (400-500 ticks). They fixed it in this patch. So WvW remains unchanged, in EOTM retal is now the same as in WvW.

I see thanks. Anyone know the formula on WvW Retaliation then or is it exactly 33% reduction? I can’t seem to find it anywhere.

yeah reral in wvw would one shot glass eles and mesmers with feedback. it was very op in wvw.

Engies apparently still hate it.

(I say this as i main both an Engie and a Guardian in WvW. hehe)

PookieDaWombat.6209:

Engies apparently still hate it.

(I say this as i main both an Engie and a Guardian in WvW. hehe)

Well thats kinda because Engineers are pretty worthless in terms of single-target damage.
Every weapon or weaponkit is essentially AoE or fast-hitting or both. So no matter how you go with Engineer, Retaliation in zergs screw you over.