Guild Wars 2

Businesses are forced to have to choose customers to keep and customers to lose. A division can be made among video game players as 1) those who fiend for cheats, exploits and unscrupulous play, and 2) those yearning for balance and challenge. Spawn camping is one type of play that draws a line between these groups. The first group loves it. It is an epic finish for them. The second group hates it, but will participate for a short time if it is given as the only play option.

What customers is GW2 choosing to keep and to lose?

So you’re saying whoever supports spawn camping also supports cheating, exploiting, and unsportsmanlike play…K

Haven’t really tried spawn camping or been spawn camped…but surely, surely its just part of the game environment. If ANet decide that its unfair, they will do something about it…maybe push the boundaries out more…..how about we fix that by making wvw PvE? AND we’ll throw in some daisies and unicorns you can prance around with too!

Sorry, but I think QQing about being spawn-camped is just laughable. You weren’t able to stop being pushed back into your home WP? Can’t figure out how to get out? QQ!!!! OMG change the game!!!! soo many options:

1) Get coordinated and figure out a strat to get you out and get some payback (come back later en masse for instance / blitz out and disperse to regroup after for a rear attack)
2) Have fun trying to master the level of dodging necessary to get close enough to hit the opponents
3) Go to a different map
4) Accept that the opposition is too strong/organise/numerous for you and do something else
5) Taunt the opposition and hope they get stupid – sit just inside the invulnerable zone and laugh at them
6) Rage and QQ in the forums

I love how you’ve decided there are 2 groups of player tho! lol…obviously you include unscrupulous play in with the cheats/exploiters….just what exploits are we talking about here too? I have to ask, given you are lumping spawn camping in there as unscrupulous play.

I really wish people like you would think a little bit more before you post crap like this.

@Guild Wars Fan – Thank you for making my point so evident. Thank you for showing the kind of behavior to be expected from supporters of spawn camping. Now imagine what a dev is thinking. Gee, I can choose to have spawn camping supporters like Guild Wars Fan bring attitude into my customer community, or choose to remove the things from the game that feeds that type of player. Lastly, don’t flame my threads. It is against the forum rules.

Use a different exit

Make distraction while main force Zerg the sieges on main exit.

People, think.

ImProVocateur.5189:

Gee, I can choose to have spawn camping supporters like Guild Wars Fan bring attitude into my customer community, or choose to remove the things from the game that feeds that type of player.

Your customer community?

lolz

What do you mean by spawn camping? (there are 3 different exits to WvW spawns as far as I am aware). I’ve experienced spawn camping at the steps (especially by Blackgate now in our current matchup) but I aint mad .. always find another way out

… never experienced real “spawn camping” in WvW ever.

To OP:
You can’t spawn camp in this game in WvW (other than sPVP), as that means “staying right beside the spawn point of an enemy and kicking his butt, best while he even needs to load the world around him.”

In GW2 WvW, your spawn point is far away and heavily guarded, there is no chance for your enemy to kill you right off spawn.
There are also three ways out of your spawn area, that branch off in some other ways too.
I doubt one can close all of that ways to effectively prevent you from leaving spawn (which would suck but would still not be spawn camping).

Please be sure about what you are writing and using the correct terms – and in additon think of ways to counter a playstyle of your enemies (there are many solutions out there for almost any given situation).

lichtquant.1490:

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There are also three ways out of your spawn area, that branch off in some other ways too.
I doubt one can close all of that ways to effectively prevent you from leaving spawn

Actually they could, and quite easily as well. Whether it really happens somewhere or not is another question.

If you’re being outzerged and have outmanned buff, enemy can put just 5 people on side exits and everyone else on main exit. Now, your own zerg could penetrate through these 5 people but if your team had a zerg in the first place, you would not get trapped. So what you have then is a bunch of solo players who try to play with outmanned buff, but are being blocked from the entire map.

Now, it’s true that outzerged and disorganized groups should not do well in WvW, but current situation is not healthy for casual average player (for whom WvW was designed anyway). That leads to a massive exodus that we witness right now across the servers.

There are three exits (minimum) out of every spawn point. If you’re the kind of player who just runs out the front gate into the enemy zerg, over and over, without ever looking around … well, then I daresay you have earned your frustration.

Spawn camping can be easily avoided by taking another exit.
But where to draw the line?
I’m never camping but for example last night we were able to finally claim the VS keep and actually there was no single point held by VS on eternal battlegrounds, it was completely owned about 50/50 by us (FS) and ER (without teaming up as servers, we fought both germans and french at keep).
After being dominated by VS since launch thanks to nightcapping, I must admit it felt great to fight them back on their stairs from the spawn point for some time It actually was one of my highlights in WvW since launch.
Does that make me bad?

aside from the northern supply camp, i really hate spawn campers.. they rob me of karma and cash =p

If invaders don’t turn over camps or at least attack them there’s no karma or cash to be had, since the kill ratio at the boarder is too low to fund my wallet… this is my practical reason why spawn camping is lame.

The reason i exclude the northern one is because there are infinite-esque combinations of way to drop down over cliffs and even invul bugs used by defenders, no one needs to use the door except to try and have a speedy escape, or wait for reinforcements to take the camp 10 feet away. In that case letting too many out of the gate = losing the camp.

ImProVocateur.5189:

Spawn camping is one type of play that draws a line between these groups. The first group loves it. It is an epic finish for them. The second group hates it, but will participate for a short time if it is given as the only play option.

On your servers borderland how do you camp a place that sits in the middle of the map with exits roughly 270 degrees, even the other borderland server have multiple exits that can’t be camped by just one force.

if they are camping you in all those places and completely surround your homebase in your servers borderland then your server sux and is in desperate need of leadership and some decent PvP players.

Spawn camping is not possible in GW2. There are 3 exits. Only those who want to be spawn camped, or just mindlessly run forward are spawn camped.

As has been said, its nearly impossible to spawn camp a team when there’s multiple exits. The number of people it would take to just camp one team would leave you completely defenseless in the rest of the map.