Guild Wars 2

I want to know if this is an exploit or not?

The argument is that you are using your skills of the Engineer to access it. and if this is wrong is it then wrong for a mesmer to use portal skill to help people inside.

i have tried searching the forums for the answer but found nothing.

its unfair to be able to do something and get banned for it. you not using hacks. just your skills. this is a question i am asking. and i just want a dev to answer it so that i know if its wrong or right.

I would say its an unintended entrance and passing of the wall because they are only meant to be passed when breached.

I wouldnt use it to gain an advantage.

Dart Void.8745:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=socDpC8TecY

I want to know if this is an exploit or not?

The argument is that you are using your skills of the Engineer to access it. and if this is wrong is it then wrong for a mesmer to use portal skill to help people inside.

i have tried searching the forums for the answer but found nothing.

its unfair to be able to do something and get banned for it. you not using hacks. just your skills. this is a question i am asking. and i just want a dev to answer it so that i know if its wrong or right.

Where is your logic ? A mesmer Hiding after a wipe and porting in people afterwards is different than using an exploit to gain entrance to a tower.It’s really dense to think this is allowed..,Why the need for walls and gates if anyone can just leap in ?
There were multiple spots in EB where you could leap in several towers amongst Jerrifer being the easiest to get in to,even warriors could leap in.It got fixed,as this should also be fixed with an invis wall infront of that spot..Right away.

It’s not really an exploit and I doubt you’ll get banned for using this “trick”, but I wouldn’t use it since it really doesn’t seem intended and you would be kitten bad sports doing so.

Caedmon.6798:

Dart Void.8745:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=socDpC8TecY

I want to know if this is an exploit or not?

The argument is that you are using your skills of the Engineer to access it. and if this is wrong is it then wrong for a mesmer to use portal skill to help people inside.

i have tried searching the forums for the answer but found nothing.

its unfair to be able to do something and get banned for it. you not using hacks. just your skills. this is a question i am asking. and i just want a dev to answer it so that i know if its wrong or right.

Where is your logic ? A mesmer Hiding after a wipe and porting in people afterwards is different than using an exploit to gain entrance to a tower.It’s really dense to think this is allowed..,Why the need for walls and gates if anyone can just leap in ?
There were multiple spots in EB where you could leap in several towers amongst Jerrifer being the easiest to get in to,even warriors could leap in.It got fixed,as this should also be fixed with an invis wall infront of that spot..Right away.

i am purely asking mate. i want to know what is useable and not since there is alot of things everyone is saying you cant do. yet others are doing it. for instance using catas under veloka slope bridge to hit the wall. some call exploit. others use it and say its not. so what is correct. and i dont even have an engineer. i want to know what i can report or not. or if i am being a kitten about it.

People who use third party software (e.g. speed hacks, fly hacks, etc..) to modify how they interact with the game are in violation of the End User License Agreement (EULA.) Violating the EULA can result in the user’s account being suspended. If you are not using any of the aforementioned programs and only using tools within the game provided by the game’s developers, you should not have your account suspended.

It’s an exploit. You’re not supposed to be able to just leap into the keep and thus destroy all the siege in outer. I’d report it.

You can do the same in EBG Red keep from the vista that is between the outer and inner gate. People can jump from the lion in the vista and get inside inner. They need to fix super speed jump.

The issue is so serious that if you check the youtube channel that posted the video that OP linked you can see a lot of other keeps/towers that you can jump inside with either super speed/rocket boots or rifle #5

Guess which way they go to “fix” this. GG you got engineers nerfed XD But seriously took them a while to plug the old garrison exploit, probably take them a while to do all the locations you’ve mentioned. Hills, Ogrewatch, Overlook, Wildcreek, Lowlands, Va­lley and Garrison.

It will be nerfed somehow since engineers are capable of soloing lords room, although seeing as Anet doesn’t read the wvw forums we have time lol.

Anyways, it’s not intended for players to bypass walls or gates when they’re not open, unless of course through your own portal or a mesmer one. Then again the game has “jumping puzzles” so yeah… XD

email the video to exploits at arena dot net and in 3 months there will be an invisible wall there with no patch notes.

This is an issue of level design, not engineers.

It’s an exploit. I’ve already went ahead and sent your video exploits@arena.net, saved you a bit of trouble. Good catch.

Ark Bladesteele.2943:

It’s an exploit. I’ve already went ahead and sent your video exploits@arena.net, saved you a bit of trouble. Good catch.

No one checks that email. There’s no point in emailing it.

Guardians and classes with leaps used to be able to leap into Jerrifers in EB… Videos were made on how to do it and shortly it was fixed….

When the game was released, you could spawn on the east side of an enemy borderland and follow the cliffs right into hills lords room, that was also fixed rather quick…

I’m gonna take an educated guess and say Anet might fix it at some point (When those other exploits were happening we also had active Devs and no Living story) but a lot has changed in 2 years and Anet are a business that follows money so if it’ll ever get fixed is a question in itself.

sephiroth.4217:

Guardians and classes with leaps used to be able to leap into Jerrifers in EB… Videos were made on how to do it and shortly it was fixed….

When the game was released, you could spawn on the east side of an enemy borderland and follow the cliffs right into hills lords room, that was also fixed rather quick…

I’m gonna take an educated guess and say Anet might fix it at some point (When those other exploits were happening we also had active Devs and no Living story) but a lot has changed in 2 years and Anet are a business that follows money so if it’ll ever get fixed is a question in itself.

Ansii m8, this has not been fixed. can still be done

Hamster.4861:

sephiroth.4217:

Guardians and classes with leaps used to be able to leap into Jerrifers in EB… Videos were made on how to do it and shortly it was fixed….

When the game was released, you could spawn on the east side of an enemy borderland and follow the cliffs right into hills lords room, that was also fixed rather quick…

I’m gonna take an educated guess and say Anet might fix it at some point (When those other exploits were happening we also had active Devs and no Living story) but a lot has changed in 2 years and Anet are a business that follows money so if it’ll ever get fixed is a question in itself.

Ansii m8, this has not been fixed. can still be done

That’s also not Ansii. How2bad

Crius.5487:

People who use third party software (e.g. speed hacks, fly hacks, etc..) to modify how they interact with the game are in violation of the End User License Agreement (EULA.) Violating the EULA can result in the user’s account being suspended. If you are not using any of the aforementioned programs and only using tools within the game provided by the game’s developers, you should not have your account suspended.

You correct; no exploit. The game give you, no third party software using.

I would say that this is an exploit. Unlike a Mesmer portal (which requires a player to have successfully breached the objective before and then remained undetected), this method allows enemies to gain access to the Keep even without prior access at all. Thus, there is no way to “counter” it, whereas you can do sweeps of the Keep to flush out hiding Mesmers. (And it’s your own fault for not sweeping properly if you lose the Keep via Mesmer portals.)

Unintended use

Can lead you to a 2 week temp ban if you are a first timer

Is this an example. Yes.

Will Anet do anything about it?

They still havent fixed the Northcamp and garry exploits where u cant get damage. Its been 3 years since closed beta.

They have stealth fixed other similar exploits, like the thief SB exploit to get under the map in a certain spot in Borderlands and swim right into Bay. Weird stealth “fix” to QL as well, whatever that was. People do read those emails, whether they fix it or not is completely random it seems. It doesn’t bother me one bit to spend 30 seconds writing an email with a video link and sending it to them, so whatever.

DarkSyze.8627:

Crius.5487:

People who use third party software (e.g. speed hacks, fly hacks, etc..) to modify how they interact with the game are in violation of the End User License Agreement (EULA.) Violating the EULA can result in the user’s account being suspended. If you are not using any of the aforementioned programs and only using tools within the game provided by the game’s developers, you should not have your account suspended.

You correct; no exploit. The game give you, no third party software using.

You are incorrect. Exploiting map design and glitches (I’m looking at you, Mesmers with Lightning Hammers at blue EBG keep WG) is still exploiting. You are objectively wrong. Read the ToS again.

mango.9267:

Hamster.4861:

sephiroth.4217:

Guardians and classes with leaps used to be able to leap into Jerrifers in EB… Videos were made on how to do it and shortly it was fixed….

When the game was released, you could spawn on the east side of an enemy borderland and follow the cliffs right into hills lords room, that was also fixed rather quick…

I’m gonna take an educated guess and say Anet might fix it at some point (When those other exploits were happening we also had active Devs and no Living story) but a lot has changed in 2 years and Anet are a business that follows money so if it’ll ever get fixed is a question in itself.

Ansii m8, this has not been fixed. can still be done

That’s also not Ansii. How2bad

/facepalm lol..

Also I’ll add this to the list.

Opinion: I would email that one in and not use it, that is an exploit. Main reason I say this is that since that edge of keep is not coded correctly and you shouldn’t be able to stand there. Using that to access the wall when the design is not intending you to do so is what makes it an exploit. Good hunting!

TheGrimm.5624:

Opinion: I would email that one in and not use it, that is an exploit. Main reason I say this is that since that edge of keep is not coded correctly and you shouldn’t be able to stand there. Using that to access the wall when the design is not intending you to do so is what makes it an exploit. Good hunting!

It is not player fault for edge of keep not coded correctly; the player did not use hack to get to edge of keep and wall; Arena net can fix. I see hacker already fly to keep and go inside wall; this player Not use hack.

DarkSyze.8627:

TheGrimm.5624:

Opinion: I would email that one in and not use it, that is an exploit. Main reason I say this is that since that edge of keep is not coded correctly and you shouldn’t be able to stand there. Using that to access the wall when the design is not intending you to do so is what makes it an exploit. Good hunting!

It is not player fault for edge of keep not coded correctly; the player did not use hack to get to edge of keep and wall. I see hacker already fly to keep and go inside wall; this player Not use hack.

Hacking and exploiting are different. An exploit is finding something that isn’t meant to be used in a way its designed, in this case that edge over extending into the open air allowing the OP to aim and use abilities to access the wall. And as I said, my opinion and I would avoid using it.

so you can get in as an engineer its not like you can portal anyone in anyway so enjoy trying to cap that solo vs guards. either way guards will rekt you.

TheGrimm.5624:

DarkSyze.8627:

TheGrimm.5624:

Opinion: I would email that one in and not use it, that is an exploit. Main reason I say this is that since that edge of keep is not coded correctly and you shouldn’t be able to stand there. Using that to access the wall when the design is not intending you to do so is what makes it an exploit. Good hunting!

It is not player fault for edge of keep not coded correctly; the player did not use hack to get to edge of keep and wall. I see hacker already fly to keep and go inside wall; this player Not use hack.

Hacking and exploiting are different. An exploit is finding something that isn’t meant to be used in a way its designed, in this case that edge over extending into the open air allowing the OP to aim and use abilities to access the wall. And as I said, my opinion and I would avoid using it.

I understand. Thank You! for explanation. I do not want player ban still. Maybe next time player report to arena net for fix?

J envy.5270:

so you can get in as an engineer its not like you can portal anyone in anyway so enjoy trying to cap that solo vs guards. either way guards will rekt you.

You can still kill siege, and that’s total crap. They need to fix this, but I would not call it an exploit by any means.

J envy.5270:

so you can get in as an engineer its not like you can portal anyone in anyway so enjoy trying to cap that solo vs guards. either way guards will rekt you.

the guards are a joke o.O