Guild Wars 2

SANCTUM OF RALL has people flying around and instantly capping fully upgraded keeps and towers. They are blatantly cheating. They will cap a tower or keep that is fully upgraded before it is even in combat.

The server has also been exploiting trebuchets from their spawn and gaining unfiar advantage constantly.

It is sickening to see people flying around instantly killing our commanders and capping keeps and towers we spent hours upgrading and capturing. This needs to stop.

Sanctum of rall has been hacking and exploiting at night mainly for the last 3 days. The server needs to have some consequences because the entire server is participating in the hacking and they know what is going on.

We were dominating them fair and square. We were beating them in fights when we were outnumbered 2 to 1 because they have no clue what reviving is. These pathetic hackers and exploiters need to be dealt with and the entire server needs a punishment for this blatant hacking and constant exploiting.

I forgot to mention, people were complaining about getting killed instantly by flying players. And I was 1 shot at a tower that got taken in under 10 seconds, while there was no one in it or under attack.

to clarify, they were NOT using a flying hack to take these towers, rather they were mesmer portal exploiting.

these screens are from the 4th time they did this, so our walls are no longer fully upgraded

I can 2nd this, i can not confirm any use of a true “hack” (such as teleporting/flying) but i did watch the guild SiN portal into redgard, about 4 SiN members and 2 or 3 non members, they mesmer portaled in right at the ramp going up to the lord… two of us witnessed this hopefully the 2nd person (who was able to get screen shots of them on the portal and running up) will show up to link those shots, saddly mine didn’t take when i died instantly on the portal (as they all came through), i only got ones of them running around outside behind the tower

four times tonight we lost redbriar and Greenlake i would say within about a 20-25 minute span we would see crossed swords there then BANG it was gone and took us a good 5+ minutes to get it back each time, finally on the last time a few stayed behind to capture screen shots of them doing it and see which guild it was (because it is better to say XXX guild with proof than to accuse the whole realm)

And yes i reported all of them that i could for “scamming” nothing else seemed appropriate, also learned that the veteran archers would run over and rez you!!! didn’t know that but it allowed me to get up to the lord room and try to spot them then report any i may of missed ones up there too.

Saddly Anet has not come out and said clearing this is an exploit of the system, but it is pretty clearly NOT intended…

this happens because ANet is more interested in permabanning people who purchases weapons at prices they themselves set incorrectly, than in policing their own game and hunting hackers.

hacks happening is expected in any MMO. ANet’s utter passivity is unheard of, tho

Why accuse/punish the whole server for the actions of one or two players? It is more likely that someone has had their account hacked and this is a new way for said botter/hacker to powerlevel.

Stop acting like a child and blaming the whole server. I was under the impression that we were all having akittengood battle these last few days. I was even considering creating a thread to thank Sorrows Furnace and Darkhaven for putting up such an awesome fight. Nobody likes hackers man, not even the servers that own thekittenkittens.

Wait, let me get this straight, you are accusing our server of “hacking” because a mesmer used a portal to get his team inside the tower? this is a legitimate tactic. Learn to clean house when you cap next time.

gomfedj, do you still have the screens of them running around outside?

they were most certainly not inside the tower when they activated the portal. they placed a portal on the wall from outside and then portaled in.

No. They had people capping towers with 1 person 1 shotting our commander. I was in Rebriar when it happened. They had nobody in it.

They need to be punished

They have been exploiting trebuchets from spawn point also at Dawns Erie. They have been exploitign the past 3 days and now they are hacking and using mesmer exploits to gain unfair advantage.

Do you think that these actions do not deserve punishment? They have hundreds of players participating in the exploits and they have not stopped it.

Our server has never exploited or hacked. We have not done it. Sanctum of grall has done it for 3 straight days and it is a load of crap.

to reply to Elthurien, this was not a mesmer inside…. these guys came up from the outside (mesmer included), so this was not a house cleaning issue.. two of us sat in the tower running around waiting to lose it to this group (after it happened 3 times already) they came up from the outside and somehow were able to place a portal right on the edge of the wall and then they all came up, we watched the portal appear, oddly we could NOT see them outside they must of been behind the lords tower or behind the side there was no way to see them from the portal (even looked straight down where portal was and didn’t see them) this is not a tactic, if it was why bother having rams in the first place?

Yeah what gomfedj said.

We had the towers and keeps for about 8 hours and they were fully upgraded. They were 1 shotting our commanders and hacking.

btw i know someone will say “the mesmer could of been stealthed” to just PRE-answer that.. unless the guy was stealthed for a good 3-4 minutes solid and can also cast portal when stealthed… this was not a ninja mesmer hiding inside… heck the 2nd time was lost redbriar the group that did it didn’t even bother to destroy our ram outside the gate it was still there waiting for us to cap it back again..

Fair enough. I’ll keep my mouth shut and let ANet take care of it.
Which server are you lot from? DH or SF?

Edit: Aside from this tarnishing an otherwise good matchup, thanks for the good battles. There’s been some good ones.

Sorrows Furnace.

Yeah dude, I wasn’t sensationalizing it when I said they literally had players flying/nocliping and 1 shotting us and our tower and keep commanders.

SF…. btw i am not accusing everyone that is why we wanted the screenshots, i suspect most of rall would be furious to know this is going on, i know we would be if someone on our side does it and we would WANT the guild called out and blacklisted… we knew it was just a small group doing this not a huge zerg (because they were moving between the 2 keeps not even bothering with the supply points)

But gomfedj, they have been exploiting spawn point trebuchets for 3 days straight. They have also done this exploit the night before. They had about 100 players followed suit after they realized was was going on.

Elthurien.8356:

Why accuse/punish the whole server for the actions of one or two players? It is more likely that someone has had their account hacked and this is a new way for said botter/hacker to powerlevel.

Stop acting like a child and blaming the whole server. I was under the impression that we were all having akittengood battle these last few days. I was even considering creating a thread to thank Sorrows Furnace and Darkhaven for putting up such an awesome fight. Nobody likes hackers man, not even the servers that own thekittenkittens.

If someone was cheating on our server it would be my responsibility to report them or get them to stop. I don’t want a win via cheating.

Your whole server would be getting the benefit from those who have cheated to gain any advantage, so it is not enough to say you can’t blame the server. Have you tried to stop it?

i know about the trebs up where you can’t hit them, but that can be done on any map, and honestly i am not sure HOW arenanet is going to fix that, it is annoying i admit.. not sure i would call it a cheat or even an exploit… the player that jumped into the tower after it was capped, i gotta admit i wonder if they were questioning what happened, i did notice after we got the gate to about 30% they all left.. i think they realized something fishy was going on when we it happened 4 times without the “zerg” being there… but just because someone runs into a “questionable” captured tower.. you can’t throw em all in the pot, though i admit i was fighting them outside too and it WAS frustrating, just wish i could of told them “hey you realize someone exploited to capture that right?”
I was there when we lost EB to the trebs that you can’t destory (up by the barracks) but that was darkhaven doing that, i am sure we have the same trebs in our borderlands just as darkhave and rall does…. i think the best fix is to change ballista’s so they can target siege from MUCH MUCH further away (JUST siege not players) so you can at least setup a good spot and hold it long enough to destroy those trebs that are in “impossible to reach” places..

not saying your opinion/feelings are wrong ravaha.. i just may not have had as much experience with it, i have only been in the borderlands for 48 hours normally i ran eternal battlegrounds (but the queue was just getting ot be too much!)

No one on Sorrows Furnace has cheated or exploited. We have not set up Spawn point trebs. We have been playing 100% legitimately and not trying to use mesmers and theives to climb hills and things Like Grall is also doing.

That is all Sanctum of Grall has done. And Darkhaven has played pretty legitimate. Sanctum of Grall has no problem cheating.

I understand what you are saying, but Arenanet should take a hard stance on this issue and find a way to punish the server and hand out banns to the people that were caught.

I believe the punishment they should recieve is Zero transfers on or off the server and should have their rank removed from the world vs world list for a month.

The people directly responsible for the noclip and instant kill hacks should be permanently banned with their IPs.

Easy fix:
Make keep/tower lords invulnable, unless an inner gate/inner wall is down.

I thought about that too, but then you could just chain repair it with 2 supply each time.

If someone was cheating on our server it would be my responsibility to report them or get them to stop. I don’t want a win via cheating.
Your whole server would be getting the benefit from those who have cheated to gain any advantage, so it is not enough to say you can’t blame the server. Have you tried to stop it?

• How can we stop what we didn’t even know was happening? Think about what your saying before you say it.

• How do we know the people using the mesmer portal even knew they were exploiting? I don’t agree with it, since I know it is questionable, but the people doing so might not have a clue unless someone points it out to them or ANet make it a rule in which case they can block it.

• Trebbing from Citadel to Dawn’s Eyre from the cliff is not an exploit, it can be counter sieged. If Arena.Net doesn’t want it to happen they can easily block placing siege there. I tried placing siege on a cliff inside Ascension bay today but it was blocked so it’s definitely possible for ANet to stop it.

• Noclip and Flying players should be permabanned, if I see them they will be reported.

• Our server is Sanctum of Rall not Grall.

I think we can rationally discuss this without the Hackusations and demands for punishment. Zero transfers on and off? Removed from WvW rankings? give me a break, we’re 17th in rankings.. who cares. I just want a good fight each week where we’re evenly matched, I couldn’t give a hoot about rankings.

Did you guys email those screenshots ANet or did you just report ingame?

Email: exploits@arena.net if you haven’t done so.

I was leading a group to take Green B from SF with no hacking. Took forever to take that tower but we did it.
If I see anyone hacking on my side, I will report them no problem. Don’t go blaming all of Rall for hacking.
@Dark Haven, I hate you, took forever to take that tower, then you outnumber us 10-1 and come in and take everything this morning.

Porting into a Tower when the walls and gate are still intact sounds like a unintended bug much like killing siege weapons by using the reflect damage skill was.

If you haven’t already, make sure you send this information as a bug report too. That is pretty cheesy and clearly an exploit of a bug in game.

I’m from Sanctum of Rall & I haven’t seen any hacking or exploiting so far (granted I only pop on occasionally to chip off some monthly kills & work on map exploration). It’s sad to hear that multiple players on this server need to stoop us all down by hacking; if I had seen them I’d have reported them as soon as I caught something fishy.
However, you don’t need to blame the entire server. Most of us still have the decency to fight with honor & glory on the battlefield; and I’m sure some of us would have the smarts to report someone ruining the game.

Ravaha.3702:

No one on Sorrows Furnace has cheated or exploited. We have not set up Spawn point trebs. We have been playing 100% legitimately and not trying to use mesmers and theives to climb hills and things Like Grall is also doing.

That is all Sanctum of Grall has done. And Darkhaven has played pretty legitimate. Sanctum of Grall has no problem cheating.

I understand what you are saying, but Arenanet should take a hard stance on this issue and find a way to punish the server and hand out banns to the people that were caught.

I believe the punishment they should recieve is Zero transfers on or off the server and should have their rank removed from the world vs world list for a month.

The people directly responsible for the noclip and instant kill hacks should be permanently banned with their IPs.

That is an absolute lie. Have a chat with the 50 sorrows furnace players who set up trebs catapults and ballista all in unreachable, invulnerable areas in your borderland last night. They were getting pretty creative about it too. By your standards Sorrows furnace should just be deleted for what they did last night.

I counted no less than 6 catapults a treb and 4 ballista all in your invulnerable spawn area.

I’m from Rall, never heard of this exploit. You can’t go blaming the entire server for the actions of a few. It just sounds like your trying to start a witch hunt. I know if I see these guys exploiting, I would report them. However, alot of people may have no clue what they are doing.

What time of day were these guys on? I’ll keep an eye out for them looking to see if they are indeed exploiting, but you really shouldn’t be jumping into the forums and making claims like these and trying to punish an entire server. I’m pretty sure it goes against the ToS when you try to shame a group like this in the forums.

Your screenshots also don’t do much to help prove that they are exploiting… I can’t tell if a gate is down or anything at all. I’m not trying to defend these guys, but honestly, I can’t see in these shots what you are claiming.

Konrad Curze.5130:

this happens because ANet is more interested in permabanning people who purchases weapons at prices they themselves set incorrectly, than in policing their own game and hunting hackers.

hacks happening is expected in any MMO. ANet’s utter passivity is unheard of, tho

YUNOPAY 500 dollars for a X of rage?

This thread needs a screenshot of them flying I want to see it, but I do remember reading on the updates the boots from engineer (some spell) was disabled in water from launching yourself into the air, may be something similar a bug, not so much a hack.

I am Sanctum of Rall, and i know my guild have done many many wonderful tricks to flip towers back to our control. It’s the simple oldiest trick in the book. After the enemy zerg bust down the door, rush in, kill the lord… the zerg mindset never looks around, they just instantly pour out to the next target. And with that, you end up leaving a group of stealth players, or even a single meser that cast his portal, just before exiting the keep/tower.

SoR is an eastern timezone server, when we are online, you are losing. When we log is when you finally end up cleaning the empty lakes out. good job!

Just want to say, I am on Sanctum of Rall, and I am not Exploiting or Hacking! I’ve barely even touched WvW. So instead of accusing a server, how about you report the people that are actually Exploiting and Hacking. And this isn’t exclusive to a single server either.

Thanks.

in ring of fire we experimented the same. underworld server got ur full upgraded keep in 1 minute

We appreciate you reporting anyone using exploits or hacking, because there is no fun winning anything through hacks.

But please, refrain from making sweeping statements about the entire server being in this or expecting us to somehow be able to stop other people’s behaviour, save for reporting them.

Likewise I can speak for myself and my guild that we did not know of this at all, and it is simply silly to assume that all players know exactly what is going on in all of WvW at all times.

It would do you credit to target the people who actually exploit and hack. Accusing an entire server of such tactics or even suggesting that we’re all in on it deters from your argument and doesn’t help the cause.

Nobody likes hackers. We are just as happy to be rid of them as you are. Serverwide punishments don’t actually solve the issue in any way, it only hurts all legitimate players. The best we can do is report, and as mentioned by Elthurien, send your screenshots to exploits@arena.net