Guild Wars 2

Hello,

It’s been a long time since the release of Emergency Waypoints and they constantly get pulled by trolls and by enemy spies to impede proper response. Why don’t we forbid them from being pulled until the keep’s waypoint is contested (it would have to be allowed on keeps below t3 because they don’t have waypoints yet)?

Just a quick suggestion I’m sure wouldn’t be too hard to implement!

I’d rather see the waypoint open between defence events like it did before HoT, maybe give up some of the defensive tactics to balance it out.

I vote to delete https://wiki.guildwars2.com/wiki/Scribing:_Invulnerable_Fortifications

Good idea, it should only be pullable when the structure is contested, but even then it will get trolled.

I would probably prefer the old way as well.

It’d be nice if it announced who pulled it in team chat along with a link to the waypoint. That would make trolls obvious and allow smoother operation for legitimate users since they would have to try and spam shift+click.

I don’t want the old way because it wasn’t ready on command and had a cooldown of just 3 minutes. I like being able to pop an enemy’s EWP and then apply pressure while it’s on CD.

I’m of the opinion that every erroneous move in wvw is because the person doing said erroneous move is a spy. Even still, I have to admit that they can’t all be spies and sometimes mistakes happen.

The problem with announcing the players name in team chat is that most people would automatically label that person a spy from that moment on, even if it were a case of noob pull, they’d be blocked, reported and harassed by someone from that point forward, and of course no one would admit it was a troll pull, everyone that did it would claim they are a noob, trying to pick up supply, gather or…lagged the exact moment they passed the tacts.

The current system protects the spies/trolls/noobs/enemy zergs/people with bad computers or internet, it does not protect the defense that could’ve used the ewp that was pulled for whatever reason. Shaming the puller in team chat doesn’t change the fact that the ewp can’t be used if needed. It doesn’t erase the stigma of being yelled at for pulling it too early or too late either and it doesn’t change the fact that if it is pulled in a timely fashion your zerg could still get wiped by OJS on the EWP.

The problem with the EWP isn’t who pulls it and why, the problem is that it’s a defensive tactic that doesn’t necessarily benefit defense.

As a backup, which is what active tactics are supposed to be, the ewp is fine, but it’s not a backup, it’s the only option in some cases and that needs to change.

I mean you can set tractivators so that only the Guild that claimed it has access to pull them. Otherwise there really is no way to prevent it. If you set it to public then trolls will be trolls.

Malerian.8435:

I mean you can set tractivators so that only the Guild that claimed it has access to pull them. Otherwise there really is no way to prevent it. If you set it to public then trolls will be trolls.

There will always be trolls. But the OP’s suggestion does reduce the effectiveness of said trolls.

HazyDaisy.4107:

I’m of the opinion that every erroneous move in wvw is because the person doing said erroneous move is a spy. Even still, I have to admit that they can’t all be spies and sometimes mistakes happen.

The problem with announcing the players name in team chat is that most people would automatically label that person a spy from that moment on, even if it were a case of noob pull, they’d be blocked, reported and harassed by someone from that point forward, and of course no one would admit it was a troll pull, everyone that did it would claim they are a noob, trying to pick up supply, gather or…lagged the exact moment they passed the tacts.

The current system protects the spies/trolls/noobs/enemy zergs/people with bad computers or internet, it does not protect the defense that could’ve used the ewp that was pulled for whatever reason. Shaming the puller in team chat doesn’t change the fact that the ewp can’t be used if needed. It doesn’t erase the stigma of being yelled at for pulling it too early or too late either and it doesn’t change the fact that if it is pulled in a timely fashion your zerg could still get wiped by OJS on the EWP.

The problem with the EWP isn’t who pulls it and why, the problem is that it’s a defensive tactic that doesn’t necessarily benefit defense.

As a backup, which is what active tactics are supposed to be, the ewp is fine, but it’s not a backup, it’s the only option in some cases and that needs to change.

Great suggestion!