Hey guys, its pretty simple, SoS is oceanix server, where their day time and especially afternoon time, they dominate any opponent. However when the night comes all hard work is lost.
Thus any active american Guilds who are looking to keep the map going and the fight in your favour, would be a welcomed sight.
We have a strong scene in the American ‘nighttime scene’ all we need is strong American guilds and players to come over here to dominate the primetime scene.
Dragon King of War; Death Divine X; Mesmereyezzz;
Founder of War Brigade [WAR] -[MERC][TF]
Sea of Sorrows. Crystal Desert.
It works both ways. I could say my server has a huge NA presence but not enough of an oceanic presence so why don’t you come over? The biggest thing about moving over is losing all your guild upgrades and having to coordinate with every guild member to move over. It would of course be different if guilds could take their upgrades with them but either way, try firstly ask yourself why you wouldn’t move over. Then you’ll find the answer to why big NA guilds wouldn’t move over either.
TSG an american and oceanic guild on sea of sorrows left to tarnished coast because it wasnt fun on SoS. The day was ruled by fun and trolls and at night we didnt even make up the ground we lost during the day. Wasnt worth it to stay so Tarnished Coast has been our home for 2 weeks now and we are loving it.
TSG an american and oceanic guild on sea of sorrows left to tarnished coast because it wasnt fun on SoS. The day was ruled by fun and trolls and at night we didnt even make up the ground we lost during the day. Wasnt worth it to stay so Tarnished Coast has been our home for 2 weeks now and we are loving it.
If you guys really want american players I suggest you move over to Borlis Pass, the ONLY problem that Borlis Pass can’t do anything is that we have absolutely no over-night guilds for us. You guys would be the first. We are a US EST server. We can get kitten done at night but when it comes to over-night and mornings for us we just get out-manned by NSP.
We already have an alliance formed getting ready for the next server reset. I’d like to think we have some of the smartest Strategist in the servers. Not saying the smartest, but when we are able to get something going, we hold it for awhile. We’ve had the orb walls down plenty of times even in the mornings. But we are just getting out-manned.
If you guys really want american guilds I suggest you move to a server which barely has Que times such as Borlis Pass. The only reason we’re losing so bad is because we have been preparing for the next server reset, the whole alliance has that is. PST in game for more info, or troll me on the forums if you want.
Server – Borlis Pass
Guild – FIST Leader
Main Toon – Razzer Fel Level 80 Warrior
Sea of Suckers has enough of a NA population to fill queues during the primetime. It’s had them in the past, and it has them now—the North Americans just aren’t showing up for duty because of the extreme imbalance in the point spread right now. That’s understandable. I wouldn’t want to wade into WvW knowing I’m doomed for the week and the other two servers will be gunning me down out of spite, putting us on the defensive and losing territory all evening despite having equal numbers.
If you’re a North American right now and your server isn’t heavily queue-capped during the primetime, stay where you are—SoS has enough people to fill their zones when they feel like it.
Now, if you’re an Australian or other off-peaker on SoS.. I invite you to transfer literally anywhere else. Clumping together on one server’s just going to make you the target of the other two servers in whatever matchup you find yourself in, because they’re going to want to make up the point loss from all the nightcapping you will inevitably do. The less your server nightcaps—by having a more equal night population with other servers to the point that you can’t dominate the board and get an 8k lead in a few hours—the less you’re going to get ganged on in the day, and the less your NA primetime team’s going to not want to queue up as a result. And, hey, you’ll be doing every other server a favor by equalizing the population. Remember—you’re an NA server with a huge Oceanic base, not an Oceanic server with too few North Americans.
Sea of Sorrows has the largest Oceanic playebase in the game. Come make a difference Americans.
Sea of Sorrows does not have the largest Oceanic playerbase in the game, not even close. Precisely because it was chosen as an “unofficial” Oceanic server is why many Oceanic guilds did not roll on it. IoJ proved last week they have a larger (or better?) Oceanic timezone presence and I know from experience ET has a larger Oceanic presence than IoJ and HoD have an even bigger one still….
sounds like gorgewall is just mad at sos for some reason.
But yeah as the OP says, the aussies on SoS for example have been smashing Tarnished Coast this week but losing it all through the usa daytime and evening.
2 days ago our 50 man guild and another 200 man guild transferred to SoS, and yeah the queues are instant, we were able to fill a map on our own pretty much. The current SoS NA playerbase seems very solid and skilled even though short in numbers, and worked really well with us new guys to get a very moral victory over TC last night in their border, taking 3 towers and a keep from them. The atmosphere on SoS seems really good too, not once did i hear people flaming at each other.
Couple more decent guilds and SoS could really flourish
Sea of Suckers has enough of a NA population to fill queues during the primetime.
As someone who was on Tarnished Coast until Tuesday, even on the very first day of the matchup, we never saw a single SoS player before 3am (EST). As a result, we moved our guild to SoS to try to get some challenge back in the game (TC has been awesome, but after two weeks of huge wins in a row, TC’s WvW population has exploded with fairweather transfers).
After switching…holy crap. Our guild is very often the only presence in any of the zones from 2pm-10pm.
Dwok, the Undying
Support Warrior of Defiance[RUN]
Sanctum of Rall Server
Sea of Suckers has enough of a NA population to fill queues during the primetime.
As someone who was on Tarnished Coast until Tuesday, even on the very first day of the matchup, we never saw a single SoS player before 3am (EST). As a result, we moved our guild to SoS to try to get some challenge back in the game (TC has been awesome, but after two weeks of huge wins in a row, TC’s WvW population has exploded with fairweather transfers).
After switching…holy crap. Our guild is very often the only presence in any of the zones from 2pm-10pm.
Any NA guild who transfers across is guaranteed to get instant queues in WvW – can fit their whole guild in without a problem.
Would be nice if the forum allowed me to quote properly…. but anyway….
I disagree. HoD and IoJ have large oceanic populations but looking at various guild lists SoS has by far the greatest number of oceanic guilds.
I’m sorry, but i fail to see where number of guilds on a guild list = population. The simple fact that those guys we all love… RUIN have 2000 members and my guild for example has about 15 just makes your argument non-sensical and poorly thought out in the extreme.
Fact is last week the IoJ oceanic population smashed the oceanic population on SoS (see that is why i put in perhaps they were better….) and this week the sheer numbers of ET’s oceanic guilds (obviously not skill at all, just numbers (that’s tongue in cheek for those who fail comprehension)) are keeping IoJ down in oceanic prime time. last week HoD did exactly the same to ET.
How can you possibly say, with any shred of credibility, that SoS has a larger oceanic population?
Would be nice if the forum allowed me to quote properly…. but anyway….
I disagree. HoD and IoJ have large oceanic populations but looking at various guild lists SoS has by far the greatest number of oceanic guilds.
I’m sorry, but i fail to see where number of guilds on a guild list = population. The simple fact that those guys we all love… RUIN have 2000 members and my guild for example has about 15 just makes your argument non-sensical and poorly thought out in the extreme.
Fact is last week the IoJ oceanic population smashed the oceanic population on SoS (see that is why i put in perhaps they were better….) and this week the sheer numbers of ET’s oceanic guilds (obviously not skill at all, just numbers (that’s tongue in cheek for those who fail comprehension)) are keeping IoJ down in oceanic prime time. last week HoD did exactly the same to ET.
How can you possibly say, with any shred of credibility, that SoS has a larger oceanic population?
Let’s not argue on this. How about we agree that SoS and IoJ, being the “unofficial oceanic servers”, have the largest oceanic populations.
I would suggest that guilds on ET and HoD are generally more WvW focussed than SoS. This does not mean they have more oceanic payers, rather they have oceanic guilds who play WvW a lot and are very good at it.
As an aside, I have a lot of respect for IoJ and believe they are the #5 ranked server in my opinion. I believe this is in part because they have always had more NA timezone players than SoS and recently had done a good job recruiting more (which is something we hope to now do on SoS).
Would be nice if the forum allowed me to quote properly…. but anyway….
I disagree. HoD and IoJ have large oceanic populations but looking at various guild lists SoS has by far the greatest number of oceanic guilds.
I’m sorry, but i fail to see where number of guilds on a guild list = population. The simple fact that those guys we all love… RUIN have 2000 members and my guild for example has about 15 just makes your argument non-sensical and poorly thought out in the extreme.
Fact is last week the IoJ oceanic population smashed the oceanic population on SoS (see that is why i put in perhaps they were better….) and this week the sheer numbers of ET’s oceanic guilds (obviously not skill at all, just numbers (that’s tongue in cheek for those who fail comprehension)) are keeping IoJ down in oceanic prime time. last week HoD did exactly the same to ET.
How can you possibly say, with any shred of credibility, that SoS has a larger oceanic population?
Let’s not argue on this. How about we agree that SoS and IoJ, being the “unofficial oceanic servers”, have the largest oceanic populations.
I would suggest that guilds on ET and HoD are generally more WvW focussed than SoS. This does not mean they have more oceanic payers, rather they have oceanic guilds who play WvW a lot and are very good at it.
As an aside, I have a lot of respect for IoJ and believe they are the #5 ranked guild in my opinion. I believe this is in part because they have always had more NA timezone players than SoS and recently had done a good job recruiting more (which is something we hope to now do on SoS).
Happy not argue about it. :-)
@lolitsage – here I was thinking this thread was in the WvW forum…. and we were talking about recruiting for WvW. Yes, people and or guilds who PvE only obviously have an influence on the population. But given the thread topic and the forum it is in, don’t you think your comment is a bit disingenuous?
Hi, I’m the GM of The Fallen Order of Anvil Rock. We’re looking to transfer to your server to help solve your day WvW problems. TFO is a rank 4 Guild with rank 5 in Que, and is the strongest WvW Guild on the server. As you can see the problem we have is numbers and time zones. I just had a Guild meeting and the 2 problems we have is losing all upgrades and we have a few that wants to stay, so we have to remake the Guild. If accepted, I was hoping to meet with some Guild Leaders to talk about getting a donation train going, to help gain some of that influence back. ATM We have 1 commander (ME), working on a 2nd, and 80 members ready to go. That number will get higher as we have 450 members in the Guild, but only 150 WvW, so i’m waiting for the rest to get online.
I hope your server will accept us, as we’re happy to be apart of SOS Thank you for reading.
SoS is shaping up to be a pretty powerful server. They might even have an advantage over HoD since they will be smaller and can get their guilds into WvW.
RUN has been doing great things since they moved to SoS. I actually joined them recently. A very organized laid back guild.
They were responsible for bringing our server from +5 to +130 in about a 5 hour timeframe during NA primetime last night (they were literally the only guild presence during this time). A very good job done by RUN. Just think this is ONE big guild that moved over during NA primetime. Just think if we had 4-5 more come over.
Also I am very happy to see your guild move over Pimpnizzle. We accept The fallen order with open arms.
Just need a few more NA guilds to come over and we can actually do something productive during NA primetime.
Hi, I’m the GM of The Fallen Order of Anvil Rock. We’re looking to transfer to your server to help solve your day WvW problems. TFO is a rank 4 Guild with rank 5 in Que, and is the strongest WvW Guild on the server. As you can see the problem we have is numbers and time zones. I just had a Guild meeting and the 2 problems we have is losing all upgrades and we have a few that wants to stay, so we have to remake the Guild. If accepted, I was hoping to meet with some Guild Leaders to talk about getting a donation train going, to help gain some of that influence back. ATM We have 1 commander (ME), working on a 2nd, and 80 members ready to go. That number will get higher as we have 450 members in the Guild, but only 150 WvW, so i’m waiting for the rest to get online.
I hope your server will accept us, as we’re happy to be apart of SOS Thank you for reading.
We accept you guys with open arms. Please come over, and don’t be discouraged by our low scoring output during NA primetime. At the moment we are going through a phase of transferring over a bunch of NA guilds here. We will have our work cut out for us no doubt. But I hope you accept the challenge.
We’re here now. We have to come up with a new name. Most Guildies are waiting for the server to show high, to get in. We’re fine with the score, we just hate losing everything over night to BIG servers.
We are here now, we have to come up with a new name. Most Guildies are waiting for the server to show high, to get in. We’re fine with the score, we just hate losing everything over night to BIG servers.
Our aussies start trickeling on around 4 am EST..until its total domination around 8am EST
You won’t lose anything during the night if you at least have a few people to hold it to around 3-4 am..
The problem is losing things during NA afternoon times and when NA primetime hits..
but we should start doing a bit better now that we have a few NA guilds to represent.
I respect that you are trying to get a NA presence on SoS, but honestly, Tarnished Coast is the server on the upswing. Oceanic players and guilds should move to TC. Proof below.
We welcome any U.S primetime guilds with open arms.
Fact is we dominate during Oceanic Primetime but pretty much lose all our hardwork in the U.S primetime due to the lack of players available to defend our points.
we encourage such guilds to come on over and help strengthen our World by fixing our biggest weakness.
with a stronger 24/7 presence on SoS. We have the potential to reach top 6 once again.
Dragon King of War; Death Divine X; Mesmereyezzz;
Founder of War Brigade [WAR] -[MERC][TF]
Sea of Sorrows. Crystal Desert.
Uhh that only proves that you beat us during NA primetime. Why dont you show the score during Oceanic primetime lol.
Also this thread is for recruiting AMERICAN PLAYERS, if you didn’t read the title not oceanic players. Why would any NA guilds want to move to Tarnished coast when they would have absolutely nothing to do and long queue times?
Doesn’t make any sense that you are even posting on this thread.
SoS was a top 5 server before Eredon Terrace came in and destroyed us completely and snagged a ton of our players. Sad that they resorted to spamming our chat channels trying to recruit all of our players. No honor server in my opinion.
Uhh that only proves that you beat us during NA primetime. Why dont you show the score during Oceanic primetime lol.
Also this thread is for recruiting AMERICAN PLAYERS, if you didn’t read the title not oceanic players. Why would any NA guilds want to move to Tarnished coast when they would have absolutely nothing to do and long queue times?
Doesn’t make any sense that you are even posting on this thread.
If it was just simple swapping due to night capping then the score would be much closer correct? It is more than just swapping, it shows that we were able to hold SoS off earlier in the week during their primetime.
If you refer to last the past few nights, I am sure it is because hardly anyone is queueing for WvW on TC due to the insurmountable lead we have.
Uhh that only proves that you beat us during NA primetime. Why dont you show the score during Oceanic primetime lol.
Also this thread is for recruiting AMERICAN PLAYERS, if you didn’t read the title not oceanic players. Why would any NA guilds want to move to Tarnished coast when they would have absolutely nothing to do and long queue times?
Doesn’t make any sense that you are even posting on this thread.
If it was just simple swapping due to night capping then the score would be much closer correct? It is more than just swapping, it shows that we were able to hold SoS off earlier in the week during their primetime.
If you refer to last the past few nights, I am sure it is because hardly anyone is queueing for WvW on TC due to the insurmountable lead we have.
That insurmountable lead goes both ways buddy. The fact is we have a much larger downtime then you guys do. You guys have about a 8-9 hour downtime while we have like a 14 hour downtime. Now why are you even posting in this thread? I am really confused. You guys don’t need NA players at all.
Uhh that only proves that you beat us during NA primetime. Why dont you show the score during Oceanic primetime lol.
Also this thread is for recruiting AMERICAN PLAYERS, if you didn’t read the title not oceanic players. Why would any NA guilds want to move to Tarnished coast when they would have absolutely nothing to do and long queue times?
Doesn’t make any sense that you are even posting on this thread.
If it was just simple swapping due to night capping then the score would be much closer correct? It is more than just swapping, it shows that we were able to hold SoS off earlier in the week during their primetime.
If you refer to last the past few nights, I am sure it is because hardly anyone is queueing for WvW on TC due to the insurmountable lead we have.
Keep your logic out of this subject, please! SoS dominates between the hours of 8:00 am – 12:00pm est. That’s four hours of PURE DOMINANCE. If only they had a bit stronger primetime presence, they could show Titan Alliance what real pvp is all about.
If it was just simple swapping due to night capping then the score would be much closer correct? It is more than just swapping, it shows that we were able to hold SoS off earlier in the week during their primetime.
If you refer to last the past few nights, I am sure it is because hardly anyone is queueing for WvW on TC due to the insurmountable lead we have.
Funny cause SoS faced quite a force during oceanic primetime compared to American Primetime where TarnCoast literally faced no opposition from SoS.
Dragon King of War; Death Divine X; Mesmereyezzz;
Founder of War Brigade [WAR] -[MERC][TF]
Sea of Sorrows. Crystal Desert.
If it was just simple swapping due to night capping then the score would be much closer correct? It is more than just swapping, it shows that we were able to hold SoS off earlier in the week during their primetime.
If you refer to last the past few nights, I am sure it is because hardly anyone is queueing for WvW on TC due to the insurmountable lead we have.
Funny cause SoS faced quite a force during oceanic primetime compared to American Primetime where TarnCoast literally faced no opposition from SoS.
Obviously you’re the better server. Thank you for letting us have our 100k+ victory. Also thank you for facechecking Wildcreek for three hours straight last night, I got a ton of badges.
Good luck to SoS. After facing them this week and having different time zone power, its only obvious they are a great server. I wish TC and SoS could be one, but it won’t happen. Loyalty seems to be a common trait with both our servers.
Obviously you’re the better server. Thank you for letting us have our 100k+ victory. Also thank you for facechecking Wildcreek for three hours straight last night, I got a ton of badges.
Points says it all.
At the start we had quite a lead. but your advantage during our downtimes on the longrun accumulated eventually surpassing us. if you were truly the better server. you would have beaten us by way more points.
Dragon King of War; Death Divine X; Mesmereyezzz;
Founder of War Brigade [WAR] -[MERC][TF]
Sea of Sorrows. Crystal Desert.
Obviously you’re the better server. Thank you for letting us have our 100k+ victory. Also thank you for facechecking Wildcreek for three hours straight last night, I got a ton of badges.
Points says it all.
At the start we had quite a lead. but your advantage during our downtimes on the longrun accumulated eventually surpassing us. if you were truly the better server. you would have beaten us by way more points.
Obviously you’re the better server. Thank you for letting us have our 100k+ victory. Also thank you for facechecking Wildcreek for three hours straight last night, I got a ton of badges.
Points says it all.
At the start we had quite a lead. but your advantage during our downtimes on the longrun accumulated eventually surpassing us. if you were truly the better server. you would have beaten us by way more points.
The highest I personally saw you leading by was 12k (SoS). It may have gone up to 20k in the time I couldn’t monitor the score in the beginning. That was within the first 3 days where the point differences were still so little it could have swung both ways. After those 3 days, it seems SoS crumbled with TC taking the lead and holding it (This may have been around the time [TSG] came along and were able to hold at least 100~+ consistently worth of points during our night time. SoS seems to struggle to do this during their night, although they were able to do so during the first few days but that seemed to just drop off), and GoM had been left in the dust already. Why couldn’t you keep the score lead? 20k is fairly significant. It was a good buffer.
I don’t understand the argument that we have less ‘downtime’ than you do. Why would one group of people have less downtime than the other? Do NA’ers work less hours in a day? Don’t have as much school? Sleep less? Confusing argument.
Because you guys got a fairly decent oceanic crew now. We use to just rofflestomp you guys into oblivion during oceanic hours but now you guys have at least +100. This is what we need during our NA primetime. Just something to hold our head up to so everyone just doesn’t quit, instead of being +5 for hours on end.
We lost fair and square. We are not complaining about losing, we are just trying to build a fairly decent American presence like you guys have been doing for your oceanic presence. We are not like GoM accusing you guys of hacking when it was just rendering issues and flying around with orbs.
