Guild Wars 2

Seafarer Rest have players from EU and USA at night time.

I don’t see why Area-net allowed USA players to join an EU server. Seafarer Rest. we EU players on EU servers can not compete.
Day time we get Germans players and other EU players. Thats OK. Scoring evenish
Night time (EU in bed) we get USA players on that server. Thats NOT OK
Time we wake up and play again their between 25,00 and 50.000 score points up. This dam right not fare.
Plus we get them every Week in/ week out. its boring. i count for 30% on my server. that they get bored with the save server every week. or refuse to play WvWvW.

AreaNet can you please make sure we just have EU players servers in the EU shards.
BY not allowing USA to join EU shards. Or evenly spread USA player across the EU shards for even battlefields.

Can i have a Dev comment please
thank you

Everyone is allowed to play the game on whatever server they want to. They paid for the game themselves so who are we to tell them what they can or cannot do.

Yea, it’s a huge problem at the moment that no one can control. There really isn’t any solution other than to hope that SFR becomes full and players can’t transfer to it anymore, but that is unlikely as well.

Your server should try to counter it. Recruit NA players yourself.
Or stop caring about the score and just have fun and sooner or later you will bore a lot of players out of SFR. I know the queues are starting to become ridiculous during prime time so maybe some guilds will leave.

Also, Anet is going to experiment with some new mechanics in WvW that might change things up. I’d wait and see what happens with that. Hopefully they do something to reduce the importance of coverage.

Deli.1302:

stop caring about the score and just have fun

You do know that Desolation’s been stuck with them for months, right? During the last tournament, we even got them multiple times. The one before that, we were stuck with them and another server and were 2v1’ed for the vast majority of the matchups. This isn’t about score, it’s just plain difficult to have fun like this. We had Vizunah during their prime, now this.

I don’t mind playing against a stronger server and losing, that’s part of the game after all. However, some variety in our matchups would be nice.

Just for the record, I don’t think banning non-EU players from our servers is the right call. We’ve all heard it before with the French Canadians, etc, etc. Some overnight protection mechanic or funds to employ a night time squad (let’s face it, they can’t have a day job too) would be fine; along with some way for us to fight in a matchup without the current rank one in it every now and then.

EU needs to get together to sort out a T1/T2 system similar to what the NA servers have. Yes, you get “stale” matchups, but at least the winning position rotates. People need to man up to transfer servers in order to fight the biggest server.

Do keep in mind, a lot of NA would love to have the EU matchup variations.

Thanks for the cheese.

I would absolutely hate being confined to NA’s WvW.

I started my GW2 journey on NA’s Anvil Rock, nearly instantly became bored of PvE, and began to do nothing but WvW. I stayed there for some time before moving down the ladder to NA’s Eredon Terrace. I fought for good old ET for around 8 months, putting in around 12 hours a day, always out-manned and out-gunned. Eventually, I, and the rest of my guild burned out completely and decided we wanted to move to greener pastures, where we could explore PvE with renewed focus and not be one of 20 people total in WvW across all 3 maps killing ourselves for camps/Garri.

We moved to EU’s Ruins of Surmia, where we had a blast for around 6 months, it was mid-ladder and everyone was pretty friendly. The meta was a good change of pace from the NA side. Slowly though, it seemed like people were slowly bleeding away from WvW, around the time our interest was fully beginning to return. We had always played the havoc groups, the roamers, the people that ran off to flip camps or intercept enemy roamers. We decided we wanted to explore the other side of WvW, the side that these forums are always talking about for better and for worse. We did our homework on which EU server was the most consistent, we did not want to return to the NA side due to our preference for EU’s meta, we didn’t want to return to ET, nor ever have the possibility of fighting against the motherland. We decided this would be our last move since transferring a guild was rather expensive.

EU’s Seafarer’s Rest won out, a server consistent in all PvP aspects, high population, and high tier; all the ingredients to ensure our WvW experience was as contrasting as black and white. The dreams of actually being in a zerg, having an allied group of more than 15 people around you, and the very best part: No que to wait in. I and all my friends/guild mates, never play in the day, a fact that hurt our enjoyment severely on NA’s side when everybody went to sleep. On EU’s side, we find great fights against people in Germany, UK, Spain, and others, all during what is considered the most dead time for EU.

I don’t know an easy solution to the problem you referenced. Being night-shift in NA though, I would hate to lose access to the only option for action after midnight.

Maybe you could offer cookies to NA night-shift players? Or at least let them know that if they joined your server, your day crew could actually keep and make use of the hours they put in the night before. Nothing can make people transfer like feeling useless where they are now.

Chameleon Dude.1564:

Deli.1302:

stop caring about the score and just have fun

You do know that Desolation’s been stuck with them for months, right? During the last tournament, we even got them multiple times. The one before that, we were stuck with them and another server and were 2v1’ed for the vast majority of the matchups. This isn’t about score, it’s just plain difficult to have fun like this. We had Vizunah during their prime, now this.

I don’t mind playing against a stronger server and losing, that’s part of the game after all. However, some variety in our matchups would be nice.

Just for the record, I don’t think banning non-EU players from our servers is the right call. We’ve all heard it before with the French Canadians, etc, etc. Some overnight protection mechanic or funds to employ a night time squad (let’s face it, they can’t have a day job too) would be fine; along with some way for us to fight in a matchup without the current rank one in it every now and then.

You get variety in the form of a changing 3rd server. Jade Sea the past two weeks, Elona the week before, Kodash the week before that, Baruch the week before that. The week before that you fought FSP and Gandara.

Every week there is a chance you won’t get matched up with SFR. RNG is RNG. Get over it. Be thankful it’s not like NA where servers have been fighting the same opponent for over a year.

Your server could also tank for a bit. Intentionally reduce your score/rating so you drop in rank and get to fight weaker servers……….

Sadly the Higher Tiers in the EU aren’t even close to being competitive anymore, the game is bleeding players so the average pug would rather play the new PVE content than WvW. WvW still get’s neglected besides some minor changes and ones that do not benefit WvW like EoTM apart alleviating the ‘queue’ problem, the only problem it has become a more lucrative alternative to WvW.

So until Anet fixes the problem with PPT and coverage it’s pointless, don’t take the competition too seriously. WvW is an imbalanced Competition anyway.

Hassan Sabbah.1524:

EU’s Seafarer’s Rest won out, a server consistent in all PvP aspects, high population, and high tier;

Hmm. What PVP aspects? SFR has only 3 players in TOP50 of pvp rankings. Many consider EotM as a pve karma/champion train and no doubt SFR is the #1 EotM server. Some also consider Player vs Door (PvD) in WvWvW as pve. So the big question: Has Desolation lost it’s #1 pve crown to SFR? I mean the number of “pve” players must be higher now!

When Desolation can fill the maps, which happens very rarely usually for a short moment in prime time, then we usually tick higher than any other server.. When my buddy was on SFR I could check their queues. Yes, SFR had longer queues to pretty much every map, every single prime time and often queues when Deso had no queues to any maps. SFR wins the match ups because it has superior off-prime time coverage and higher number of WvWvW players. There is a striking difference, especially in the mornings, noon and often also on afternoon. We often have outnumbered buff on 3/4 maps, meaning our opposing servers clearly have superior numbers. Kodash, Jade etc. also outnumber us. Realizing this has caused many players stopping playing.

Desolation is still in slack mode and I am quite sure SFR is doing the same as there simply isn’t much enemies for SFR players to fight against outside the prime. The likelihood of another SFR vs XXX vs Deso = 2 vs 1 match up grows lower each week. I am still in China, which means a new disconnect every 5-15 minutes = pretty impossible to play WvWvW. It is a miracle my Chinese hotel room ISP managed to load this web page.

Desolation will make a comeback. Just be patient! And in the meanwhile enjoy the loot. Flip as many objectives and kill as many enemies as possible = profit. When I was in EU I was still making 100-200 g profit/week from WvWvW. Now in China I make just 1 g profit/week. Oh, the salary differences…

Before Seafarer’s it was Viz that ppl QQ about.

THis topics makes me giggle. Poor deso, WE SFR are tierd of your scrub cakes to day in and out same mindless hatefull ppl. EVen when you get old COM and ppl who want to do good to your server you just spam them so much hate and toxic poison that they leave.
Why ppl join SFR is because we are much more nicer and organized so its good and fun to play. So get rid of your Server prides and join up together to fight us and each other. BE a TEAM not punch of ORCS fighting and hateing each other.

under cover of darkness i can tell that WE in SFR starting new thing to help other servers get better and more full. SO just give us time. WE cant orginze 9 servers all by our self.

SFR for life. (this topic will be closed in ASAP)

funny how desolation QQ about even when the started with all this
forgot RUIN?

than it wa ok it was how wvw is be palyed it was the way how you win it was….

pathetic

Nothing easier to solve than that: Don’t go to matches you don’t like

xGraver.4918:

THis topics makes me giggle. Poor deso, WE SFR are tierd of your scrub cakes to day in and out same mindless hatefull ppl.

Ouch! I didn’t notice the OP being particularly hateful.. seems he was asking for Anet to get on with making changes to the system to promote more balance..

xGraver.4918:

EVen when you get old COM and ppl who want to do good to your server you just spam them so much hate and toxic poison that they leave.

Is this first hand experience of what happened? I don’t think so.. I’d appreciate it if you didn’t throw generalisations and comment on details from one side of the matter only.

To the OP – you need to chill out. I understand it can be frustrating but there are good times to be had, and ways to have them. I had a blast on Monday night with a 6/7 man snipe group, and a 2 guild co-op raid was very satisfying with plenty of fun fights last night.

I was on Desolation for a while before transferring to SFR. I came from T1 NA, here’s my evaluation;

Desolation has poor defense. Not including off hours when they have few players, but during times they are active, they let things slide on a regular basis. I was often the only one building defensive siege when I was there.

Their community isn’t particularly friendly. I wouldn’t say I’m a lovable teddy bear but I don’t shoot my mouth off, build troll siege or anything like that and still the people there weren’t the nicest. SFR has been an absolute pleasure to be with and the month or two I’ve been here I don’t plan to ever leave.

EU match-up’s have far more variety than NA and although yes Deso and SFR have been paired up for a long time, move to NA and tell me how you like it there. I’ve been gone for months and months now and the same match-ups are still happening over there that happened for months and months while I was there.

SFR’s night crew (which I am a part of) takes full advantage of Deso’s weakness at those hours. I know for a fact if you were in our shoes you would do the very same. I see no reason to go easy on Desolation just because there is a time when we have a dozen people on the map while they only have three. And I literally mean that… You might think we have this big zerg that dominates all maps when you’re sleeping but we don’t. It’s a tiny group of 10 – 15 people tops that map hops to take everything we can manage. I really don’t pity anyone we do it to because I know if the tables turned it’d be done to us just as quickly.

tldr; Deso’s defense is bad, their community is a 5/10, decent people but overall unpleasant, EU match-ups are still considerably more varied than NA and you shouldn’t want nor expect SFR to go easy on anyone because anyone else would do the same in our position. I’m not going to sit in our towers twiddling my thumbs all night just because the other servers are sleeping. If I want to play WvW and capture things I’m gonna.

I like to Hangout more.

SFR Hangout

You know, it actually reads as though he could be on a server from Deutschland.
To the guy who mentioned Ruin, you have to realize that no one really liked them in the end, even I joined and left them after 1 minute.

I agree that Desolation should improve it’s defense if we want to win point wise. But no defensive siege? At some times we have had as much siege as Vizunah Square on it’s glory days. I counted 18 trebs on our EB keep + other defensive siege… oh and all those omega golems. But that was several months ago. The match ups have been decided already for many months, so many Desolation players don’t care for the points. Players earns better if you just let the objectives flip and then flip again and again. Unlike SFR players, most Desolation players do not enjoy EotM (those rare moments in EotM I have always seen more SFR there). And you gotta farm your money somewhere. Why not do in the WvWvW?

About losing a commander to SFR. Well, you lost a good commander (Gabriel) to Desolation around the same times. So 1-1. I don’t think the game is that different on the other side of the fence. The biggest difference is the numbers and coverage. SFR’s small night crew sounds like it is doing pvd = pve. Nothing wrong about it. I don’t play at night, so I cannot comment about the quality of the opposition. Pvd is what we Desolators do morning, noon and those afternoon and evening hours when we are outnumbered. The biggest difference is that I am capturing SFR held keeps and towers either alone or just having 1-2 players with me (and outnumbered buff on us, so you got more players). So surely SFR’s defense has big holes as well. This game doesn’t reward defense well. So every server slacks on it.

Arenanet could of course change that. E.g. give small rewards when refreshing siege, which is about to expire. And reward the players who spent money on upgrading camps, towers + keeps if they successfully defend it. By reward I mean real rewards like some chests, not just some small WXP.

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