Curious, is it even technically possible to separate a PvE’er from a WvW’er in terms of counting “population”?
I primarily play WvW with a dungeon run once or twice a month. Most days I only play on weekends (and many in my guild do the same), sometimes I find myself too busy to play and might take a break for weeks at a time. There have been times where I log in and roam WvW a few times a month.
Sometimes I’ll go to WvW just to use the portal to Lion’s Gate.
And I often see new players who log in to check out WvW, find it’s not for them and never log back in again.
the should just get rid of all servers, do the 3 color thingy, eotm style
this time zone has a lot of people? no problem, eotm style can add more instances to settle it.
this time zone is dead? no problem, eotm style can reduce instances to settle it.
no because then all of wvw will turn into an eotm idont care style…which will happen anyways as the new map is eotm on steroids with extra pve and jumping puzzles in it
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ANet could easily resolve the issue by calculating averages for WvW attendance across BLs for any particular server for any particular length of time……but they won’t.
Why fix the issue when they garner huge returns for gem sales so guilds can leave “Full” servers, which also happens to be dead in WvW.
Only way to fix this is to consolidate all WvW to something like 9, brand new WvW servers with new names. All PvE content is able to be done by guesting. PvP is not server based, dungeons are not server based. WvW is archaic as it is still based on servers to accommodate all of GW2 populations at launch. Here’s a detailed thread on the matter I made 11 months ago.
Only way to fix this is to consolidate all WvW to something like 9, brand new WvW servers with new names. All PvE content is able to be done by guesting. PvP is not server based, dungeons are not server based. WvW is archaic as it is still based on servers to accommodate all of GW2 populations at launch. Here’s a detailed thread on the matter I made 11 months ago.
at this point though, I don’t really care anymore if servers are dissolved, but if I’m forced to be in the same situation that t1/2/3 are now? or eotm? I’m pretty much out. Occasionally get my fill harassing zergs and reinforcements running back to their zerg but otherwise meh, won’t care. Small scale fights are generally more fun, and more about individual skill.
What situation do you thing T1 servers are right now? I logged in three hours after reset last friday, and there was a queue just for EBG.
Anyone who wants small scale fights should come to T1, lol. Few hours after reset and that’s pretty much what you have for the rest of the week(end). Sure, there will be a float group with large numbers sometimes on NA prime, but they’ll just keep floating as needed between BLs, and if zerg is not your thing, just don’t follow that big group.
This game mode is not what it was one year ago, people really need to stop talking as T1 servers had kittentons of people 24/7. I wish.
Why not add three new NA servers, no restrictions? If all the servers truly are very high population this seems like the solution and who would transfer there besides the wvw players?
The only way I can see them really sorting out this mess they have created that is “World Population” is to just reset everything. When you create your character you don’t choose a “Home World” as its irrelevant at that point in time, your just thrown into the Giant pool that is PvE Mega Servers. When you try to enter a portal or use the hot key for WvW you have a 1 time notification pop up that asks you to choose a “Home World” to Rep for WvW purposes. If you already have established characters, they patch, you go to enter WvW, the notification pops up, you choose either your typical “Home World” or a new one (one time free transfer as it were) from this point forward that’s your WvW Server that you rep. Transfers can still work the same 1800 gems or whatever they decide to transfer WvW Representation.
Roll it out with HoT, give everyone advanced notice that this will be whats happening, it just might fix some population balances in WvW in the process and it will eliminate a server registering as full because of a bunch of people that have no desire to step foot into WvW. Those players can be content in their Mega Server and should they one day decide to try out WvW they have an option which server they can Align to.
They could even eliminate servers at this point if they desired, once the first 12 servers (example only) have a healthy rep they open 3 more and so on and so forth. This last part is meh and would make some people kitten if it was their original server that was shut down.
What situation do you thing T1 servers are right now? I logged in three hours after reset last friday, and there was a queue just for EBG.
Anyone who wants small scale fights should come to T1, lol. Few hours after reset and that’s pretty much what you have for the rest of the week(end). Sure, there will be a float group with large numbers sometimes on NA prime, but they’ll just keep floating as needed between BLs, and if zerg is not your thing, just don’t follow that big group.
This game mode is not what it was one year ago, people really need to stop talking as T1 servers had kittentons of people 24/7. I wish.
Oh I didn’t say it here, but perhaps it has changed some? However, what if it’s during primetime hours you want to play? Then for sure t1 still isn’t what you want when you don’t want blobbing. t2 is very blobby, and t3 is heading that way (or rather is now). And so many from T1 keep telling roamers to goto t3. Which is a bit hilarious, tbh.
How the kitten you can balance things when players play only when they winning? Anyways wvw would be more interesting if these warrior/guardian teamspeak metabattle circlekitten zone blobbers would stop being so lame. You kitten wannabe roamers could be little bit less lame too. At least in EotM you sometimes meet player/groups who haven’t copied their builds from some lame www page and tactics from some newest GvG blob video.
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How the kitten you can balance things when players play only when they winning? Anyways wvw would be more interesting if these warrior/guardian teamspeak metabattle circlekitten zone blobbers would stop being so lame. You kitten wannabe roamers could be little bit less lame too. At least in EotM you sometimes meet player/groups who haven’t copied their builds from some lame www page and tactics from some newest GvG blob video.
I make my own builds and feel that metabattle builds are indeed typically lame and meh, tyvm. Not that we have super diversity on options for builds but I’ve never liked going fully by ‘meta’.
I like to zerg and roam. The thing is about roaming in T1 is that you’ll always run into people. During off hours, it may be a little while until you do, but it’s still a pain in the kitten to flip camps and kill yaks during SEA or EU cause I still run into other roamers. All these people who talk about T4 and below having good roaming must be talking about only prime time. I can’t imagine running into very many people during off hours. Some guy in another thread bragged about how he was able to flip all the camps on a map for tick and help get SM fully upgraded. What a joke. He was either lying, or literally on a dead server. That would never happen in the higher tiers.
But the point of all this talk is whether servers get merged into 9 or 12 or whatever. Anet has the numbers on what would be a good number, but it still needs to happen. I forsee a ton of people coming back for HoT, so there’ll be ques, but soon leaving again as the game mode is going to be terrible with all the PvE, ai, and lack of decent terrain.
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I like to zerg and roam. The thing is about roaming in T1 is that you’ll always run into people. During off hours, it may be a little while until you do, but it’s still a pain in the kitten to flip camps and kill yaks during SEA or EU cause I still run into other roamers. All these people who talk about T4 and below having good roaming must be talking about only prime time. I can’t imagine running into very many people during off hours. Some guy in another thread bragged about how he was able to flip all the camps on a map for tick and help get SM fully upgraded. What a joke. He was either lying, or literally on a dead server. That would never happen in the higher tiers.
But the point of all this talk is whether servers get merged into 9 or 12 or whatever. Anet has the numbers on what would be a good number, but it still needs to happen. I forsee a ton of people coming back for HoT, so there’ll be ques, but soon leaving again as the game mode is going to be terrible with all the PvE, ai, and lack of decent terrain.
I liked roaming t5 a while back. atm t4/5 are in a bit of a flux and will take a while to settle into a sense of normalcy. Sometimes sure it was kinda dead, and then you’d find others to fight elsewhere. What a lot of people seem to be saying lately is that T1 may be the same way? Then that means T2 is the blobby one atm? and T3 is pretty similar. Of course I’m looking at NA, and some of the responses are EU I think?
Tiers change, and will change again, but, as an example, if you merge me into massive queues and blobs, expect me to be as ticked off as if an entire server were to say, choose to move to mine and force the same situation on me… answer is Very. The solution isn’t to merge WvW into just a few servers. Possible outcomes could make it end up similar to EotM or the queues forced on it could destroy it, couldn’t really say which outcome is more likely.
Really wish they’d make it so there was a PvE only option for players. Being the PvE option would give you 10% gold, magic find, karma gain and XP gain but you’re effectively on a server that isn’t connected to WvW. Switching onto this server would be free of charge.
This would free up room on servers without forcing anyone off anything. Possibly give them EOTM as a rotating server or whatever is lowest pop when they join or something.
