Guild Wars 2

Anet do you have any plans to give some special rewards and rights to players who have stayed their home server? I think that HoT launch would be good time to do this. Every server could have own special armor for example and shorter/no queue times would be nice reward too.

So they should create 51 different armors?

And how would the whole shorter/no queue time even work? Should they reserve special spots for “loyal” people that they can take? What if all those a full? Should they kick others from the map?

lordkrall.7241:

So they should create 51 different armors?
Should they kick others from the map?

Yes and yes. Well let’s do this. If player transfer back in his home server before HoT launch he would still get these rewards, but after this he can only use title bandwagoner. This way it’s kind of player own fault if he get kicked out of map when “bättre folk” wanna play wvw.

Why do you care, you only play eotm which is megaserver anyway ;p

Offair.2563:

Why do you care, you only play eotm which is megaserver anyway ;p

I plan to do some skillful siege gameplay in new map and i like rewards that are well-deserved.

Server loyalty is joke most wvw guilds always jump if theyr current server gets 2 blob by or there are no 1 to fight on borderlandd

A job well done is its own reward.

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

Reward all the casual PvE players who never moved or felt forced to move for WvW? What?

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

I have always been on UW so has my husband. Some other people have always been here.

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

I’ve always kept an account on AR but both of my accounts have moved off of it at one time or another. Which means that if they actually implemented what the op is asking for I wouldn’t be rewarded even though there was never a time I wasn’t on AR.

Puck.9612:

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

I’ve always kept an account on AR but both of my accounts have moved off of it at one time or another. Which means that if they actually implemented what the op is asking for I wouldn’t be rewarded even though there was never a time I wasn’t on AR.

There are a lot of players like that, myself included. I moved my original FA account since launch off FA but my alt that I purchased in Summer/Fall 2013 has always been on FA.

The OP is mistaking server loyalty with account location.

You select server in launch and stay there. That is loyalty.

Junkpile.7439:

You select server in launch and stay there. That is loyalty.

So someone that have never ever set their foot in WvW but have been on the server since day 1 is more loyal than someone that have been in WvW several hours each day since they transferred two years ago?

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

Miller´s Sound for 3 years. I don´t pay my money for a mess that is exclusively to blame on the shoulders of the designer. I would even stay if I would have enough money to burn it in the garden for my personal enjoyment, even with it being a junk full of unreasonable Skritts sometimes.^^

lordkrall.7241:

Junkpile.7439:

You select server in launch and stay there. That is loyalty.

So someone that have never ever set their foot in WvW but have been on the server since day 1 is more loyal than someone that have been in WvW several hours each day since they transferred two years ago?

So what. Pve is megaserver now anyway and WvW isnt…

AmberUK.5380:

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

I have always been on UW so has my husband. Some other people have always been here.

But I don’t know you

But respect for you guys

Offair.2563:

lordkrall.7241:

Junkpile.7439:

You select server in launch and stay there. That is loyalty.

So someone that have never ever set their foot in WvW but have been on the server since day 1 is more loyal than someone that have been in WvW several hours each day since they transferred two years ago?

So what. Pve is megaserver now anyway and WvW isnt…

Then this should be in a different forum, not the WvW forum, nor suggested to be a WvW reward.

Junkpile.7439:

You select server in launch and stay there. That is loyalty.

Loyalty cannot be measured that way because loyalty requires dedication to fighting for the server in WvW and not everyone who has been on a server since launch can make such a claim. That’s what is really being asked for here: reward for loyalty to the WvW activity of a single server since launch.

@OP

I get what you’re asking for. Reward the player that continues to fight for a World that has been abandoned by most others.

Server loyalty is not a joke to a few…it’s a choice some players do make.

I’ve been on my Home server since GW2 launched in August 2012 & continue to fight for my World. I know a few others on my server that have played just as long.

My World has never made Gold, but we’ve seen Silver…we’ve also been at rank 24 in the NA Match-ups, but have begun to climb back up again.

I’ve seen my WvW community in both happy & sad times…being loyal has been rough.

Before reading my suggestion below…keep in mind…I believe ANet should remove the ability of players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in EotM. Only permit players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in Borderlands & Eternal Battle Ground.

Why not make this an annual (account based – 365 days) reward based on the amount of WvW Badges you’ve earned for the year (maybe minimum 500)?

Also, could exponentially increase the annual reward for players that earn it consecutively for the same world..

JQ FOR LIFE!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Time to design a loyalty reward track for WvW players. Basically better extra reward for players playing for a server for a long time.

Instead of doing it based on which server you started on it should be based on how much time youve spent in servers wvw. I think a good reward would be increased gold drop in wvw…it wouldnt have to be much but the prize should also increase based on population or more on their impact to the server…how many defenses and assaults successful but should be divided by how many ppl are there so ppl soloing camps and towers in t7 can get as many points as someone in a 50 person blob in t1 if not more

Chase.2798:

Instead of doing it based on which server you started on it should be based on how much time youve spent in servers wvw.

That’s interesting. It reminds me of vacation perks given to veteran employees of a company. If an employee has been at a company for 10 years, they have way more vacation time than they could get from going to a new company and would lose that perk upon leaving.

baylock.1703:

Server loyalty is joke most wvw guilds always jump if theyr current server gets 2 blob by or there are no 1 to fight on borderlandd

“hurr durr ppl don’t play like me therefor their playstyle is joke lelelelele”

Seriously, quit with this silly type of post people. Some people enjoy the game based off of community, not just a server name, or just fights, or just ppt… People all play for different reasons, some more than just 1 reason (I play for all 3, fights/ppt/community, community being the most important).

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

As someone who played at launch, not only do I know a few from my own server who have (Dh), I know some from FC for example have as well. Kaineng too. It’s more common than you might think, if you’re trying to imply it’s unheard of (can’t tell if you’re just being literal about “I don’t know anyone” or you’re trying to make a point with it).

Terrible idea. Not everyone is blessed with being on a deluxe, top of the line, all singing, all dancing, 24 hour fun time T1 server OP.

Bronze has almost no-one in it at certain times. Night cap can be achieved by 1 person and an omega or two. You can spend 30-60 mins running around without seeing a single person, enemy or friend.

People that move off it I do not blame in the slightest, I may have 2 years ago when things weren’t so bad but they’re really terrible for the last year. I don’t feel ANet should punish people for transferring more than the gem cost.

apharma.3741:

Terrible idea. Not everyone is blessed with being on a deluxe, top of the line, all singing, all dancing, 24 hour fun time T1 server OP.

Bronze has almost no-one in it at certain times. Night cap can be achieved by 1 person and an omega or two. You can spend 30-60 mins running around without seeing a single person, enemy or friend.

People that move off it I do not blame in the slightest, I may have 2 years ago when things weren’t so bad but they’re really terrible for the last year. I don’t feel ANet should punish people for transferring more than the gem cost.

Well if u keep letting ppl transfer up pretty soon there will be no point to t7 or t8 servers and they will get pushed into higher tiers by anet removing the servers and moving their ppl… this will cause immensly bad wait times… not to mention guilds seperated and more lag…its easier to remove the problem now by making an incentive to get every server equal then to try and solve over population issues in the future

Chase.2798:

apharma.3741:

Terrible idea. Not everyone is blessed with being on a deluxe, top of the line, all singing, all dancing, 24 hour fun time T1 server OP.

Bronze has almost no-one in it at certain times. Night cap can be achieved by 1 person and an omega or two. You can spend 30-60 mins running around without seeing a single person, enemy or friend.

People that move off it I do not blame in the slightest, I may have 2 years ago when things weren’t so bad but they’re really terrible for the last year. I don’t feel ANet should punish people for transferring more than the gem cost.

Well if u keep letting ppl transfer up pretty soon there will be no point to t7 or t8 servers and they will get pushed into higher tiers by anet removing the servers and moving their ppl… this will cause immensly bad wait times… not to mention guilds seperated and more lag…its easier to remove the problem now by making an incentive to get every server equal then to try and solve over population issues in the future

I’m really going into the reasons why people have transferred off bronze (EU) and thus haven’t had loyalty. Sure some of the problems wouldn’t be here if transfers weren’t allowed but then the game mode might be even more dead as you may not get movement of players except new. This is perhaps a conversation for another topic though.

I just don’t think giving away a “loyalty” bonus is a good idea as it works against player movement which at the moment is perhaps the only thing keeping some people even playing.

apharma.3741:

Terrible idea. Not everyone is blessed with being on a deluxe, top of the line, all singing, all dancing, 24 hour fun time T1 server OP.

Bronze has almost no-one in it at certain times. Night cap can be achieved by 1 person and an omega or two. You can spend 30-60 mins running around without seeing a single person, enemy or friend.

People that move off it I do not blame in the slightest, I may have 2 years ago when things weren’t so bad but they’re really terrible for the last year. I don’t feel ANet should punish people for transferring more than the gem cost.

As I have said previously I have been on UW with my husband since day one of purchase for us both. BUT it has not been an easy ride and we have had many many talks together about moving. I play less and less WvW because of the terrible state of WvW on our server. As the poster says you can run about and see noone. And we have swung from the domination of BT to now FOW. Both for different and very frustrating reasons. This is not fun to play tbh. I don’t mind the loosing but the swinging from pvd to being squished by a blob and having to wait till they are off the map is frustrating.
The problem is I dont see how moving helps things. As shown by BTs sudden fall it does not take much for a servers fortunes to change. I am in a small guild and if we moved server it would make no difference to anyone but other guilds are massive and they could move and completely change a tier. So it feels like you are at the mercy of other peoples whims.

Answer:
No.

With the way MMO Server communities work in this newer age of non-committed overly satisfaction-saturated gaming, many players often move to the flavor of age servers. I would have loved to stay on Sanctum of Rall back before it collapsed when everyone jumped ship to TC / JQ / BG but it was simply not optimal for world vs world anymore. Meaning I wouldn’t receive any benefits simply because I didn’t stay on a dead server. See where anet will run into problems?

The idea of making players feel like special snowflakes for nonchalantly committing to trivial things like their first server or how long they have been playing has never sat well with me. Things should be earned and be available for everyone to acquire with the same amount of work. Just because someone, say, started playing before another person doesn’t mean they should benefit from it imo.

Well it was kind of clear that bandwagoners don’t want that loyal players get rewards. I wait anets answer.

Actually as someone who moved recently to that bandwagon server Emery Bay (yes, I am being sarcastic), I would be behind this if there was a participation requirement behind it.

I fail to see the difference honestly between a player who moves off and another who stays on his server and hides in PvE and/or EOTM.

Really, just how much server loyalty does not showing up for the match indicate?

Diku.2546:

@OP

I get what you’re asking for. Reward the player that continues to fight for a World that has been abandoned by most others.

Server loyalty is not a joke to a few…it’s a choice some players do make.

I’ve been on my Home server since GW2 launched in August 2012 & continue to fight for my World. I know a few others on my server that have played just as long.

My World has never made Gold, but we’ve seen Silver…we’ve also been at rank 24 in the NA Match-ups, but have begun to climb back up again.

I’ve seen my WvW community in both happy & sad times…being loyal has been rough.

Before reading my suggestion below…keep in mind…I believe ANet should remove the ability of players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in EotM. Only permit players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in Borderlands & Eternal Battle Ground.

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Why not make this an annual (account based – 365 days) reward based on the amount of WvW Badges you’ve earned for the year (maybe minimum 500)?

Also, could exponentially increase the annual reward for players that earn it consecutively for the same world..

Instead of WvW Badges earned…maybe use WvW Rank.

ANet would need to keep track of the WvW Rank earned on each server for a player.

Earn 500 WvW Ranks on a server within a year you get a Server Loyalty Reward.

Earn 500 WvW Ranks consecutively in year 2, 3, etc…your Server Loyalty Reward goes up exponentially.

ANet should remove the ability of players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in EotM. Only permit players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in Borderlands & Eternal Battle Ground.

Sounds like just being greedy. Like asking someone for $5 every time you say please and thank you.

Staying on a server should be its own reward.

@styx

It would be nice to be rewarded when you stay on a dead server fighting & earning your WvW Ranks on this server for a year.

Most players wouldn’t stay on a dead server to level up their WvW Rank.

It’s not greed…because most normal players leave when faced with fighting on a dead WvW server.

If you’ve ever tried to increase your WvW Rank on a dead server…you’d understand.

Try doing it for a year…and it’s pure torture.

Having an annual reward sure would be nice.

Or, better yet…try staying on a WvW server that is constantly dominated by a T1 server when they drop to T2.

TM has always been loyal to AR and our leader has never left it. He has played since launch. I’ve played since January I can’t see myself leaving AR. I have to any friends to turn back on them I also love my community.

Chaba.5410:

The OP is mistaking server loyalty with account location.

Junkpile.7439:

You select server in launch and stay there. That is loyalty.

Good that you confirmed what Chaba said.

Diku.2546:

@styx

It would be nice to be rewarded when you stay on a dead server fighting & earning your WvW Ranks on this server for a year.

Most players wouldn’t stay on a dead server to level up their WvW Rank.

It’s not greed…because most normal players leave when faced with fighting on a dead WvW server.

If you’ve ever tried to increase your WvW Rank on a dead server…you’d understand.

Try doing it for a year…and it’s pure torture.

Having an annual reward sure would be nice.

Or, better yet…try staying on a WvW server that is constantly dominated by a T1 server when they drop to T2.

I’ve played in the absolute lowest tiers of NA. I dunno if there are any dead servers, people still show. New people still show up as well.

I’ve often contemplated maybe having a reward for being on lower tiers. There is an actual measurable reward that comes with being on higher tiers (more kills leads to more achievements, more drops, as well as more people to share expenses with etc.). It would be a hard sell.

On the other hand, WvW is different and for a lot of people better on lower tiers as well. It just doesn’t make you as rich.

@styx

Agree…you don’t get rich playing on lower tier servers.

ANet…it would be nice if you reward players that show stable behavior patterns…because this helps WvW Communities weather the storm when they collapse.

Suggestion:

ANet would need to keep track of the WvW Rank earned on each server for a player.

Earn 500 WvW Ranks on a server within a year you get a Server Loyalty Reward.

Earn 500 WvW Ranks consecutively in year 2, 3, etc…your Server Loyalty Reward goes up exponentially.

ANet should remove the ability of players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in EotM. Only permit players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in Borderlands & Eternal Battle Ground.

Better Suggestion:

Server Loyalty Points:

Every 500 WvW Ranks earned unlocks a Unique WvW Bonus Chest Reward. Warning – Server Loyalty Points reset to Zero if account changes WvW World.

Diku.2546:

Better Suggestion:

Server Loyalty Points:

Every 500 WvW Ranks earned unlocks a Unique WvW Bonus Chest Reward. Warning – Server Loyalty Points reset to Zero if account changes WvW World.

Rewards Edge of the Mist the most and people who zerg.

I don’t think WvW ranks were a good addition to the game.

How about this:

• You get rewarded based on years within your current server (like a character birthday)
• Scaling reward based on badges/ranks earned (possibly not counting any earned through EotM)
• Max reward threshold should be reasonably attainable for all kinds of play styles within WvW (players who zerg/guild group/etc. earn more badges/ranks than those players who play in smaller groups)

With this system, players who remain loyal to servers get rewarded as long as they are active and contributing players. It also means players who may have transferred at one point in time may still get rewards, just not as soon as players who have remained on one server.

I personally am a strong supporter of server loyalty, and have been on my original server for close to three years now. I understand people’s reasons for leaving servers and if that’s what it takes to make the game fun for a person than that is understandable, however sticking to one server (especially lower servers who tend to go through many rough times) is an accomplishment in of itself. Players who chose to stick it though and not take the easy way out do deserve some sort of reward in my opinion. Whether that means we should be getting exclusive skins I’m not really sold on, however something else similar to the suggestion of extra gold drop in WvW would be very reasonable along with a title perhaps.

I like the idea of some kind of server loyalty reward/title, even if it’s just some small token or handout. Maybe a small reward for each month (or some other time period) that you remain on your server. It’s kind of frustrating at times when I tell people what server I’m on and they automatically assume I’m a bandwagon player even though I’ve been on my server since launch.

styx.7294:

Diku.2546:

Better Suggestion:

Server Loyalty Points:

Every 500 WvW Ranks earned unlocks a Unique WvW Bonus Chest Reward. Warning – Server Loyalty Points reset to Zero if account changes WvW World.

Rewards Edge of the Mist the most and people who zerg.

I don’t think WvW ranks were a good addition to the game.

Forgot to repost the following:

ANet should remove the ability of players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in EotM. Only permit players to earn WvW Badges and Rank in Borderlands & Eternal Battle Ground.

Been on Aurora Glade 3 years since release, capped 20k camps and killed 29k dolys, that’s loyalty.

Torolan.5816:

sephiroth.4217:

I don’t know anyone who has stayed on their home server for 3 years. (bronze league)

Miller´s Sound for 3 years. I don´t pay my money for a mess that is exclusively to blame on the shoulders of the designer. I would even stay if I would have enough money to burn it in the garden for my personal enjoyment, even with it being a junk full of unreasonable Skritts sometimes.^^

I too have been on Miller’s Sound since I started playing GW2 almost 2years ago.

There is no such thing as “server loyalty”. I am from Sea of Sorrows, I definitely know this. Those were sad days witnessing less and less people going into wvw.

Should have moved to BG when MERC decided to hop ship but nope got to hold on to that loyalty lol >.> Now my cousins are in BG having wvw 24/7 while I get gluteus smacked by TA kitten implode already :<

Sucks being an Aussie, SOS used to have a dominant oce force back then.

@Entashe

It’s not fun given current match-ups can have servers stuck fighting the same enemies for months…with no reprieve. Or, worlds that have lost their communities for some reason.

I blame the current map mechanic, but that’s a different topic from this one.

Given your situation…Server Loyalty Bonus Chest Rewards that I describe above would be nice.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Server-loyalty-1/first#post5496685

I think that server loyalty is important, though it shouldn’t only be rewarded to those who stayed on their home servers for the past 3 years.

I started in beta on SBI, and at launch on SBI however at launch due to the amount of people going in WvW and 6+hr long queues my friends and I left that server so we could wvw, as a guild without waiting over 6+ hours to get friends through queues on any wvw map.

Am I on SBI currently? no, however I shouldn’t miss out on server loyalty rewards due to not being on the server I started the game on.

Maybe try to reward idea to players who stay on their server for a month or longer, and have the rewards go up each month to better items. (Think of it as how the monthly log in rewards progress each day to a different item.)

Yeah..like if you stay with the same server for five years you can get a free server change..