Guild Wars 2

So ANet’s main problem with its curent WvWvW system is Server Population and the outnumbered “buff”. Some servers never see downtime (those currently at the top of the ranking system) while others have a “prime time” lasting all of 2-3 hours of the day (those in the mid/low ranking).

So really the current top realms are only on top because of their population not because of any skill/effort put into obtaining that position. I would highly recommend either combining low/med population realms together. And consider changing the “rank” system to a “population system”

Another fix would be to get rid of the joke of a “buff” you currently have, and replace it with an outmanned buff that actually is worth a kitten Magic find, Experience and Karma are worthless in WvWvW. Replace it with stat boosts like increased dmg/ decreased dmg taken, etc. This way when one side of 15 defenders is up against 50-60 attackers it isn’t a waste of time defending kitten.

WoW someone else see’s what i see , this low population server is nonsense . they need to make it cost to change servers also . the population point system sounds like a great idea . all and all the wvw meta now days is who has the biggest zerg ……..

i wonder , what effort you put intro wvw ? you go sleep at 7 Pm and wake at 4 am to cap something in that 3 hours you play?
you spend all your gold on siege machines? add 3 rams to rush towers or 2 golems?
Wait , what skills we talk about ? to use or not wall of reflection in 40 vs 40 ? or really what skill , battles are wonned by organization and informations not skills.
Regarding outmaned i hope you were joking
There are 3 sides on every map and 4 maps where you can play. If you are outmanned on all 4 maps then you should go down 1 tier not progress

anonymity.9465:

Rayya.2591:

i wonder , what effort you put intro wvw ? you go sleep at 7 Pm and wake at 4 am to cap something in that 3 hours you play?
you spend all your gold on siege machines? add 3 rams to rush towers or 2 golems?
Wait , what skills we talk about ? to use or not wall of reflection in 40 vs 40 ? or really what skill , battles are wonned by organization and informations not skills.
Regarding outmaned i hope you were joking
There are 3 sides on every map and 4 maps where you can play. If you are outmanned on all 4 maps then you should go down 1 tier not progress

First off you should really work on your grammer second of all you dont know me nor do i know you . fact i dont go to bed at 7pm sorry and i dont wake up at 4 am , i am on the GoM server where the population is low due to guilds leaving because we keep fighting the same servers for over a month now . i am guessing that you are on a big server probably one of the top ten and all you do is zerg and there is no skill involved . i read some of your posts and seems like you do is troll and argue . if you dont know what your talking about then you probably should not post . i am not here to argue i am here posting trying to figure out what anet plans on doing about the low server population cause thet do exist . we beat bp before and now all the sudden people stop playing wvw cause we keep fighting the same servers and leave the server , bp gets flooded with more guilds and people making it more populated then ours now . all and all there is a such thing as low populated servers and gom is one of them .

If he is in the top 10 then they prob dont zerg. Im in a medium tier server and we are highly organized a good portion of the time.

The outmanned “buff” is a joke. And I hope it is something they are looking at closely internally.

Many a times on IoJ I have been playing (usually with outmanned buff, but I always go on a map where we have the least points capped) and it sucks. All I and the few friends I have can do is cap a supply camp right before counter is 0 and kill yaks.

As soon as we cap that camp, the enemy zerg will be there.

One time over this weekend me and three others held a supply camp from 5-10 SoR or BG (dont remember). It was really fun even though we eventually got severely outnumbered. I just wish we were more rewarded I guess? If there was some way our efforts actually meant some sort of difference. Either personally or for our server. Otherwise we just literally get wiped off the map and our efforts are forgotten. It is very demoralizing.

This weekend I found myself logging off the game because I just felt so beaten. We have 0 points on the map and I am a good player! I can solo a camp by myself and do all this, but it doesn’t matter because all it takes is a zerg of players to take it back within seconds. I don’t know what ANet can do to help people like me feel like we are helping our server who are not part of a large guild and do NOT want to follow a zerg around.

Some sort of ranking system would be cool. Especially individual player rankings.

Well in my opinion the “outmanned buff” is a bad idea.

Whether you’re outmanned or not, you should win or lose based on your own characters abilities / personal skill…. and not a stat boost. Stat boosts simply make the game unbalanced. Outmanned buff’s, if anything, could buff the NPC’s on your team, or let you carry more supplies… but please no stat boosts.

I think the problem really is that WvW is not rewarding enough. Many of these “low pop” servers actually have a normal sized population, it’s just that certain servers have more people running fractals / dungeons and those are the servers who end up outmanned in WvW.

Make WvW less of a gold sink, and more rewarding, and more people will enter and take part… which will even out the servers alot more.

anonymity.9465:

Rayya.2591:

i wonder , what effort you put intro wvw ? you go sleep at 7 Pm and wake at 4 am to cap something in that 3 hours you play?
you spend all your gold on siege machines? add 3 rams to rush towers or 2 golems?
Wait , what skills we talk about ? to use or not wall of reflection in 40 vs 40 ? or really what skill , battles are wonned by organization and informations not skills.
Regarding outmaned i hope you were joking
There are 3 sides on every map and 4 maps where you can play. If you are outmanned on all 4 maps then you should go down 1 tier not progress

First off you should really work on your grammer second of all you dont know me nor do i know you . fact i dont go to bed at 7pm sorry and i dont wake up at 4 am , i am on the GoM server where the population is low due to guilds leaving because we keep fighting the same servers for over a month now . i am guessing that you are on a big server probably one of the top ten and all you do is zerg and there is no skill involved . i read some of your posts and seems like you do is troll and argue . if you dont know what your talking about then you probably should not post . i am not here to argue i am here posting trying to figure out what anet plans on doing about the low server population cause thet do exist . we beat bp before and now all the sudden people stop playing wvw cause we keep fighting the same servers and leave the server , bp gets flooded with more guilds and people making it more populated then ours now . all and all there is a such thing as low populated servers and gom is one of them .

first of all , my grammar is fine for an 3’rd lang, i am not US or Uk to speak /write perfect english, might be frustrating for you, to read an non perfect english , but consider that i know 2 lang more then you.
second of all : we had all payed same money for this game, we all have same privileges. one side should not get an unfair advantage ( stats boost) just because nobody want to play with them, If the guilds left your server is an issue with your server , maybe the fact that you (as server ) prefer to run chaotic, not to follow commanders. So from all the players who play this game ,what makes you so special to demand stats buff ?
Regarding zerg and skill: Dude , dude skill was never involved in wvw, and is not intended to involve skill in WvW. you might confuse skill with tactics. But since the factor guilds left the server you play , i assume you got no tactics, so you run chaotic using punch power " that is called zerg". With all your english knowledge you confuse zerg with numbers. I will explain you:
Nowadays term zerg is used in mmo games to describe force consisted of large group of lower level players who use numbers rather then strategy to defeat the enemy.
You also say effort : but you don’t try to play offpeak to capture points when there is no " zerg " arround, as you mentioned. Did you even tryed to drag wvw clans on your server ? .How many gold did you spent on sieges ? Or what effort you mentioned ?
I am sorry dude, i do not troll you, but i got the right to an oppinion, and to express my point wich is 100% against yours

you dont troll all you do is assum bro , gom is a organized server well it was when i was there . zerg came from starcraft actually and i know what it means . i am simply arguing that there is low populated servers out there and gom was/is one of them . i dont do wvw much no more . when i did play i played when i can having kids a job and a house takes my time . also i always did a 4 man team so it dont show the swords on the map when we atttack supply camps . i mainly did a lot of solo roaming when i did play too and scouting . there is some servers that are more organized then others and there is some servers that are all skill . simple fact i am trying to make is that there is low populated servers out there and anet should do something to help them out thats all .

Twinbros.5372:

So ANet’s main problem with its curent WvWvW system is Server Population and the outnumbered “buff”. Some servers never see downtime (those currently at the top of the ranking system) while others have a “prime time” lasting all of 2-3 hours of the day (those in the mid/low ranking).

So really the current top realms are only on top because of their population not because of any skill/effort put into obtaining that position. I would highly recommend either combining low/med population realms together. And consider changing the “rank” system to a “population system”

Another fix would be to get rid of the joke of a “buff” you currently have, and replace it with an outmanned buff that actually is worth a kitten Magic find, Experience and Karma are worthless in WvWvW. Replace it with stat boosts like increased dmg/ decreased dmg taken, etc. This way when one side of 15 defenders is up against 50-60 attackers it isn’t a waste of time defending kitten.

Who told you system suppose to encourage skill? It encourages hard working people and people who play’s more often or can field more man in field. Try to encourage your server to participate in WvW more often and do not give up easily after few deaths. Major problem in system is server transfers and WvW being money sink with not enough rewards to attract people to WvW. Do not blure your mind with anything else.

Should just lower the points to 0.1 gain per tower/keep/garrison you own after 2am, every two hours, and go back to a normal rate around 9am. Or even later!.

Maybe thouse pesky night cappers/zergers will finally get some sleep. xD

Yeah yeah crappy idea.

They need to get rid of the bottom two tiers and have them merge with all the other servers. This would make WvW much more enjoyable. To be honest this game wont have more than 3 tiers in two years the way things are going now.

+1 for removeing outmanned buff

There is no reason to merge servers for now, if players wish to find more people in WvW ago transfers.
I specify that I play on a server sparsely populated RoS.

anonymity.9465:

you dont troll all you do is assum bro , gom is a organized server well it was when i was there . zerg came from starcraft actually and i know what it means . i am simply arguing that there is low populated servers out there and gom was/is one of them . i dont do wvw much no more . when i did play i played when i can having kids a job and a house takes my time . also i always did a 4 man team so it dont show the swords on the map when we atttack supply camps . i mainly did a lot of solo roaming when i did play too and scouting . there is some servers that are more organized then others and there is some servers that are all skill . simple fact i am trying to make is that there is low populated servers out there and anet should do something to help them out thats all .

And you were the guy criticizing the OP’s grammar?? LOL

The problem is that people want to win and be on top without putting any work or effort into it. Hence why the top tiers have queues into WvW with populations high enough to have huge zergs on each map.

If Anet were kind enough to mess things up by introducing US and EU servers, then why not make them specific ones. Tag servers so that they are either mainly PvE, PvP or WvW. This way people know to stay away from PvE ones.

Another thing the top tiers can do is help balance out the servers. It is clear that the lower servers will stay low unless they get an influx of WvW players.
If top tier guilds want a challenge they should move to to lower end tiers. This will help even out the servers’ fighting potential.

We dont want a system where the top 4-5 are always in the top tier fighting, whilst those in tier 6 end up fighting the same old servers again and again, knowing the outcome of their WvW match before it begins because it’s just a repeat of previous matches.
We really should be looking at a balance where even a server in 10th place has a chance to fight a server who is 5th place.

The only way to do this is if some of the top tier guilds decide to move to help that.

But it’s thanks for Anet free transfer still being open that this has happened. People took the easy way out, instead of fighting for their place in the top, they just jumped ship.

Of course, from experience, there are one or two servers where people dont want to help each other in WvW and it’s those servers you want to stay away from.