Guild Wars 2

Normally I have optimism for ANet fixing problems eventually but on this issue we will not be getting resolution any time soon.

I’ve seen an tagged Dev running right past that invincible spot siege on TC to stop my small ops group from breaking their NW tower. If they can walk right past it while wearing their Arenanet tag and do nothing at that time… then the company doesn’t consider it an issue worth diverting resources towards.

I’d post the Dev’s name but sadly it just said Silver Tarnished Coast Defender. :\

@ Whyter, people like you who constantly complain about anet not fixing stuff in wvw but yet when clear evidence is presented about something being exploited you act like oh its no big deal don’t worry about it, you really don’t see your own contradiction? Why not just go on one of the many threads about the eu hackers and say OH its no big deal guys its just one person on a small server….

Once again, it does not matter if it can be countered, and it does not matter whether or not the server doing it is out manned. Exploits are exploits and never should be allowed simple as that, if you cant understand that, well that’s your fault. I have seen an entire map blob standing there using spawn siege. Just because a server has more people it means its ok to use exploits against them? What kind of ridiculous and faulty argument is that? Why not try less emotion and more logic.

The Lethe.2953:

Normally I have optimism for ANet fixing problems eventually but on this issue we will not be getting resolution any time soon.

I’ve seen an tagged Dev running right past that invincible spot siege on TC to stop my small ops group from breaking their NW tower. If they can walk right past it while wearing their Arenanet tag and do nothing at that time… then the company doesn’t consider it an issue worth diverting resources towards.

I’d post the Dev’s name but sadly it just said Silver Tarnished Coast Defender. :\

Just because they had an anet tag does not mean they are developers

While I completely disagree with this stance as it seems to counter the general theme of Anet, it is what it is. This was brought to my attention about 10 minutes ago: https://twitter.com/shazbawt/status/616353918239399936

I guess it’s ok. Well, you won’t see us doing this. One guild member pointed out that the east side of borderlands had a spot like this and it was patched with more of the “no siege” buff. But who knows.

No east side still exists, last I saw.

Guess what? I’ve got a counter for that, too, lol

Well show me screenshots, I haven’t seen it since about a year ago.

Naithe.4271:

While I completely disagree with this stance as it seems to counter the general theme of Anet, it is what it is. This was brought to my attention about 10 minutes ago: https://twitter.com/shazbawt/status/616353918239399936

I guess it’s ok. Well, you won’t see us doing this. One guild member pointed out that the east side of borderlands had a spot like this and it was patched with more of the “no siege” buff. But who knows.

The east side treb spot that was patched last was well within citadel, like right near where the merchants are. That treb couldn’t really be ballista’d down and it couldnt be trebbed down as easily as the trebs can on the west side. In fact, many times the only way to take down those trebs were to “get” into the enemy citadel and remove it. Thats why that was patched. We first saw that tactic heavily used by a couple of the t2 servers during season 2 or 3, cant remember..

I personally dont like any of the spawn trebs too much but if anet doesn’t consider them an exploit there isn’t much that can be done other than taking your blob and setting up counter siege.

Naithe.4271:

Well show me screenshots, I haven’t seen it since about a year ago.

Naw I was hesitant to even post that other screenie because it gives the griefers a chance to puzzle out alternatives. It’s best to experiment yourself and find that “aha” moment — then do a little victory dance

X T D.6458:

@ Whyter, people like you who constantly complain about anet not fixing stuff in wvw but yet when clear evidence is presented about something being exploited you act like oh its no big deal don’t worry about it, you really don’t see your own contradiction? Why not just go on one of the many threads about the eu hackers and say OH its no big deal guys its just one person on a small server….

Once again, it does not matter if it can be countered, and it does not matter whether or not the server doing it is out manned. Exploits are exploits and never should be allowed simple as that, if you cant understand that, well that’s your fault. I have seen an entire map blob standing there using spawn siege. Just because a server has more people it means its ok to use exploits against them? What kind of ridiculous and faulty argument is that? Why not try less emotion and more logic.

People like me prioritize things and look at it realistically. This “exploit” is the vast majority of the time a non issue for anyone except a bunch of MMO warriors/easy kill farmers who hate to lose or let their opponents have a chance. The thing is I don’t care about your evidence, it isn’t that I don’t see or recognize it, I just don’t care about it as the evidence is weaksauce in comparison to major things that really do need to get fixed for the betterment of the game. If they fix it great, however, I would rather ANET actually spend what little resources they allocate to these issues to things that really effect game play for a vast majority of people.

Further, I have no contradiction. You are contriving in your own mind a contradiction that isn’t there. Plus, when you keep inferring things not implied you don’t lend credence to your issue.

And quit referencing logic please in response to my posts. You have obviously not had a logic class or earned a degree in philosophy. Feel free to reference your opinions and thoughts, but if you can’t even grasp my written words and what I have actually said don’t judge to presume what I am thinking.

I won’t comment anymore because this whole topic is just the same 3 basic people who have written over the majority of posts. Add in my replies and those from one other and it is the vast majority of posts in the topic.

As far as Jayne and the others at least they are talking in a more distinct manner and objectively. I could much more easily hash things out with them. You just make kitten up about what other people THINK and try to apply logic to things you infer that aren’t implied.

As this is my final post here (I’ll let you get in the last word) I wish you all happy gaming and a wonderful week.

wyther.8372:

X T D.6458:

@ Whyter, people like you who constantly complain about anet not fixing stuff in wvw but yet when clear evidence is presented about something being exploited you act like oh its no big deal don’t worry about it, you really don’t see your own contradiction? Why not just go on one of the many threads about the eu hackers and say OH its no big deal guys its just one person on a small server….

Once again, it does not matter if it can be countered, and it does not matter whether or not the server doing it is out manned. Exploits are exploits and never should be allowed simple as that, if you cant understand that, well that’s your fault. I have seen an entire map blob standing there using spawn siege. Just because a server has more people it means its ok to use exploits against them? What kind of ridiculous and faulty argument is that? Why not try less emotion and more logic.

People like me prioritize things and look at it realistically. This “exploit” is the vast majority of the time a non issue for anyone except a bunch of MMO warriors/easy kill farmers who hate to lose or let their opponents have a chance. The thing is I don’t care about your evidence, it isn’t that I don’t see or recognize it, I just don’t care about it as the evidence is weaksauce in comparison to major things that really do need to get fixed for the betterment of the game. If they fix it great, however, I would rather ANET actually spend what little resources they allocate to these issues to things that really effect game play for a vast majority of people.

Further, I have no contradiction. You are contriving in your own mind a contradiction that isn’t there. Plus, when you keep inferring things not implied you don’t lend credence to your issue.

And quit referencing logic please in response to my posts. You have obviously not had a logic class or earned a degree in philosophy. Feel free to reference your opinions and thoughts, but if you can’t even grasp my written words and what I have actually said don’t judge to presume what I am thinking.

I won’t comment anymore because this whole topic is just the same 3 basic people who have written over the majority of posts. Add in my replies and those from one other and it is the vast majority of posts in the topic.

As far as Jayne and the others at least they are talking in a more distinct manner and objectively. I could much more easily hash things out with them. You just make kitten up about what other people THINK and try to apply logic to things you infer that aren’t implied.

As this is my final post here (I’ll let you get in the last word) I wish you all happy gaming and a wonderful week.

Total fair to feel that other issues warrant more focus. You’re right, there are many that do. That being said, if someone respectfully points out an exploit in here and gets their heads bitten off by people, no one is going to speak their mind. Which I thought was the whole point of the forums. Shooting down people in the way that has happened doesn’t motivate people to try or care to make the game better. A simple “This is an exploit, it should be fix sure, but other things I feel are more important, namely X, Y, Z.” might have been better.

Also, the server in question has won more matches then any other in NA almost 3 times over. It’s not exactly a bunch of “MMO warriors/easy kill farmers” fighting vs them. The fights are very fair numbers wise, it was on reset, not 3 hours in. Belittling the individuals bringing to bear an exploit is unnecessary.

Maybe contribute more constructively. Subject is moot anyways, Anet apparently feels this is ok to do. Good day.