Ok great fight going on with SF. They outnumber GOM almost 4 to 1 and have taken everything in the BL and now we are turtled up in Garrison. We can’t siege the walls because…… well anyone who plays WvW knows you can’t put siege on walls anymore with the red rings of death that touch the ground on inner. Now I have a cata way back just below the vista on north inner and I’m dead from ACs that I can’t even see.
I am finding it next to impossible now to siege anything anymore. I figured a cata way back in inner with no ACs in sight and anything they put on the east wall was blown apart. But a you can see by the circles how easy it is for them to take any siege out in that whole north inner supply area. What do you do? Any ideas? Losing to a blob when you’re outnumbered 4 to 1 is tough enough but having siege destroyed like this, having siege made irrelevant wherever its put has created the KTrain blob mentality. Spam and AOE and LOS and move on. When it’s the only thing you can fight the blob with and its been rendered useless then ANET any ideas?
I knew that was going to happen when they told us they were fixing the LOS of AC, and I stated it would make defending impossible unless they also addressed ground targeting specials being able to hit the top of walls.
Yeah you can’t even toss an ac on the back lip of the wall anymore. They need to make it so the closer you are to the tower the less vision you have inside it no matter what. And you should not be able to stick siege in the alcoves of the corners. Building canons, whats the point. Try staying on a cannon at blue keep, outter wall facing Bravost. You can’t all the ground aoe. I used to be able to put a Sup Ac right behind it on the back lip and protect it some but not anymore, aoe rings reach the inner ground.
Well AC have always been able to shoot through walls due to their magic trajectory so all the need to do is force the wall to block it and let them shoot anyway so they waste time thinking they are hitting you.
Yeah but I’ve never had my cata on that spot hit before by an ac I couldn’t even see much less two of them. I’ve been going to catas more lately because of their ability to lob boulders over and not need a LOS. This one I put allows me to keep the walls to the east clear and the garages I call them by the laurel port spot free of cats as well as hitting golems. If I can’t put siege deep within the inner wall and the walls and steps are no longer viable what’s left? Trebs from the ruins?
lol another gom QQ about not knowing how to defend. like I said in the previous post, gom has been blobbing over bronze for a long time and has nvr needed to learn defense.
your cata spot is super terrible, they could have dealt with this in a number of ways.
sorry to gloat a little bit there. us defenders have to stick together. any gom interested may contact me and I may be persuaded to share some tricks or if any defense minded players just wanna swap notes.
My cata spot is just fine, I’ve been using it effectively for years. I use it on T1 and T2. In this spot (just under the vista on inner Garrison) I’ve been able to clear siege thrown at the back of the garages, the eastern outer wall, gate and anything in between. It’s better than a bali up here or a treb. The bali doesn’t reach that far back and does little damage to golems. A treb can’t hit things at close range so wrong spot for a treb. Ony the cata here can do heavy and sustained damage especially against golems. This spot will be useless now that ACs can be expolited to reach that far in.
And I don’t care about GOM blobbing all through Bronze. Most servers have blobbed at some point and that’s not the issue. I want to be able to have a chance to counter the blob with siege. I want that siege to be effective and not burned off walls from ground AOEs or exploiting the LOS on ACs.
In this pic I have attached it shows the red rings, I missed the ones that hit the ground in front of me and I was freaked to see a full red ring on the top of the supply hut. No chance for us to throw any siege anywhere in Durios. We tried and it got melted by red rings no matter where we had it.
It also seems if you don’t have siege down first or you get on it late you are done. Once they get under you they are in like an Alabama tick and their aoes have almost full interior coverage now.
Right not the way the game is set up it does not allow wall siege to be effective and apparently interior siege either. Still trying.
I don’t think you need to abuse non-LOS at north inner garri to hit inside with an AC placed outside the gate. All you have to do is target through the little opening at the top of the gate. Works from inside the gate too. You can hit the “garage” area with AC fire from the ground, inside the gate. I have not tried targeting over the gate as an attacker, but I’ve seen others do it, and I always put an AC on the ground next to the gate inside, for defense, and target over the top of the gate.
I don’t think you need to abuse non-LOS at north inner garri to hit inside with an AC placed outside the gate. All you have to do is target through the little opening at the top of the gate. Works from inside the gate too. You can hit the “garage” area with AC fire from the ground, inside the gate. I have not tried targeting over the gate as an attacker, but I’ve seen others do it, and I always put an AC on the ground next to the gate inside, for defense, and target over the top of the gate.
I was told they dropped acs in the turrets under the corners at each end of the wall so thats how they did it through the expoliot or zoom hack. And as for ACs hitting the garages, they don’t hit the back unless the are on the front wall of inner and the way it is today you can’t put ACs for long on walls or steps anymore.
Here is another death on AC just tonight. I had to wait until I died so I could be effective on the AC but not one bag either and wasn’t on it for long. The rings were much more than this but I missed the perfect shot while fighting.
Yeah bro, trying to siege up was possible. Now I don’t even bother. When an aoe ring can hit the ground on the backside of a wall then you know it’s time to stand back, let the cap happen and cap before the tick. Especially if you are out blobbed.
If anet fixes anything they should fix how wide and how powerful the necros and eles are. If you can’t sit on an ac as a master and defend against a blob then what’s the point of using gold to buy siege and upgade.
yeah, yesterday offensive ac on hills, destroying inner outer siege and inner siege… Seriously, this exist now for month…. It’s really time that Anet make something…
yeah, yesterday offensive ac on hills, destroying inner outer siege and inner siege… Seriously, this exist now for month…. It’s really time that Anet make something…
Isn’t that nuts. The only thing that can level the playing field against the blobs or mindless spammers that really think condi is the only build on eles and necros is to allow siege to do its job so less can defend.
How much better for the game if 10 can hold off 30 with siege or make the ones on the outer wall be more inventive and use something else but ground targeted aoes from necros, eles, rangers.
