Guild Wars 2

Personally I liked the idea of world linking at first, enjoyed it alot. Brought alot of fun back into the game, made it feel like WvW was “BIG” again. But here’s the cold truth although It can’t just be blamed on world linking. WvW is one of those things that is growing stale sadly. When I came back to my server DH I thought I would come back to idk more people with these pairings. But in cold reality when I came back I saw alot less. Look I get it, you zerg mentality people love the big zerg groups, but i’m sorry back in the good old days, I was taught better than that, that zerg brain is and always will be kitten, its what has been slowly murdering the game mode. Cause reality is not everyone like’s zerging all the time because some people do like to ppt more than they like to fight and eventually it just gets to the point where people can’t stand it anymore and they just get up and leave. Cause people you need to be honest with yourself and actually get anyone you see in WvW to vote in the server pairing poll, because in the long run pairings has been causing more problems than it has been helping.

Anet is just bait and hooking players along till they can release another unfinished expansion IMO.

Their really was no plan for wvw in the long run, just little changes here and there to make it seem like they were giving it attention. Notice the forums have grown silent with red posts and players are always giving good feedback.

Doesn’t matter, gem sales are good most likely with transferring. That’s all they care about.

World linking has gone a LONG way to causing my game play to drop significantly. I’ve said it before in here and will say it again… my WvW has gone from about 95% of my time in this game to maybe 50%. My time in GW2 has gone from about 20 hours a week to probably 5. This is directly due to the linking. Not whining, not taking shots.. just is what it is. I’m just not happy much in this game anymore.

There truly isn’t an incentive to win any week (not that there ever was since there never was a reward for winning).. but now that we don’t have a set home server any more we mostly just run around doing what we want for guild missions and maybe some havoc then head off. I’ve never seen more people standing around in keeps and spawns than I do now (since this reward thing started)… and yet they removed the crafting stations so people wouldn’t stand around? roflmao.. just makes me laugh.. I never used them but almost never saw people at them either.

On my alt account on FA last night some people were complaining in EB that FA was disorganized. Huh? Well the FA people I know are very organized… oh wait.. there’s another server attached.. could it be possible that people still feel disjointed and not really a “part” of the home server?

After all is said and done, the little that was done has caused a lot to be said, and a lot of good people to just stop caring.

ANet if you even read these things anymore I hope you’re coming up with a permanent solution that doesn’t involve world linking… because from what I see (with almost all my friends) it has seriously caused a LOT of us to spend a lot less time in WvW!

On top of that, sniperman, DH was given the short end of the stick this rotation, being paired with just one other server while SF & co have 3 servers and CD & co have 4 servers. If your server doesn’t blob to match CD’s blobs, then it has a harder time just surviving. It’s often unreal how many blobs CD is able to run late at night compared to SF, where I am linked, so I can’t imagine what being on DH is like.

I honestly think one of the biggest problems with the server linkings is that we are still using the kittenty glicko system.

We need to try out the “winner up, loser down” system again. I know it was used during a tournament but wvw is in a very different state now.
There are only 4 tiers now and the match ups will be manually changed every 2 months. Having a fresh match up every week will keep a lot more people interested in playing. Plus you won’t see a total kitten show for 2 months straight because of a glicko wall (current T4 situation)

Besides that, they need to give the paired servers an identity and a way to grow. People are abandoning them because they’re tired of being treated like second class citizens.

Sorry Jim… but without some sort of actual reward for winning.. who really cares? At this point WvW is really just about the fights and hopefully having fun having the fights… The points? They are really worth nothing.. they benefit nobody, the winner gets nothing except some sort of bragging rights.. meh..

Two biggest issues I read and agree with on this topic:
1. Forums have grown silent again
2. blatantly lopsided server pairing in t4 not getting remedied

regardless if there is a huge patch next week or next month or next year, we have gone right back to where we started. Effort and communication has flatlined and it kills the game.

Balthazzarr.1349:

Sorry Jim… but without some sort of actual reward for winning.. who really cares? At this point WvW is really just about the fights and hopefully having fun having the fights… The points? They are really worth nothing.. they benefit nobody, the winner gets nothing except some sort of bragging rights.. meh..

And are you having fun with the same constant stale match ups?
I’m not suggesting this because I care about winning or losing, I’m suggesting it because having variety keeps people interested. One of the reasons I keep my main account on mag is because it occasionally rolls into T2. We have no chance of winning the coverage war there but those weeks are always fun.

If it was a winner up system the quad server would have moved up to T3 by now to replace SoS or SbI and T3 and T4 would have had a much more entertaining week.

I have some fun occasionally… for the most part I find most of WvW boring and pointless except when maybe I’m doing guild missions.. or running in FA with the guild group I’m with there having field fights. Those times are fun running with people I know, when they’re online. Otherwise, the days of roaming, defending etc are long gone for me.. Most of WvW is pretty much junked imo now.

Balthazzarr.1349:

World linking has gone a LONG way to causing my game play to drop significantly. I’ve said it before in here and will say it again… my WvW has gone from about 95% of my time in this game to maybe 50%. My time in GW2 has gone from about 20 hours a week to probably 5. This is directly due to the linking. Not whining, not taking shots.. just is what it is. I’m just not happy much in this game anymore.

There truly isn’t an incentive to win any week (not that there ever was since there never was a reward for winning).. but now that we don’t have a set home server any more we mostly just run around doing what we want for guild missions and maybe some havoc then head off. I’ve never seen more people standing around in keeps and spawns than I do now (since this reward thing started)… and yet they removed the crafting stations so people wouldn’t stand around? roflmao.. just makes me laugh.. I never used them but almost never saw people at them either.

On my alt account on FA last night some people were complaining in EB that FA was disorganized. Huh? Well the FA people I know are very organized… oh wait.. there’s another server attached.. could it be possible that people still feel disjointed and not really a “part” of the home server?

After all is said and done, the little that was done has caused a lot to be said, and a lot of good people to just stop caring.

ANet if you even read these things anymore I hope you’re coming up with a permanent solution that doesn’t involve world linking… because from what I see (with almost all my friends) it has seriously caused a LOT of us to spend a lot less time in WvW!

Said it before, WvW Linking makes it feel like EotM.

Also agree with everything Jim said in this thread.

It feels like the Realm Pride folks left in this game are actually pretty far in the minority now and world linking was ANET’s way of showing us that, getting us to give up the dream of having a world or community to call our own so they can make WvW into that rotating alliance based game type they wanted last year. At this point with linking I don’t really see how it is that much better off than alliances and I think they came up with a more thorough way of attaining population balance that way so maybe us old timers just have to stop resisting and let ANET have their way. Maybe with the community aspect gone from the game there will still be plenty of salvageable fun bits for those left and the rest of us can truly let go and move on or become the complacent casuals most of us already are anyways. Goodness knows the current fire-and-forget-it meta feeds into that nicely.

Population balance will never be attainable as long as the goal is a moving target. As long as population moves to undo whatever semblance of balance a linking may initially give, it will immediately be shifted by people moving/no longer logging in. We had that problem. We were linked based on a population calculation that was immediately outdated as guilds moved off as soon as the servers were relinked. So our population was immediately lower than expected while another server’s population was immediately higher. This system is destined to fail because of this. Population balance, as WvW stands right now, in simply an unattainable dream. And then there’s the glicko issue, which is no longer a viable ranking system because server movement through the ranks is too slow and communities suffer for extended periods of time in match ups that are miserable, exacerbating the population shift that much more.

C’mon, I think world linking is quite ok. Maybe the issue is: unfortunate terrible matchups in EU (t2, t3, t5) and stall/inert glicko rating in NA (t3, t4, t5)?

Xeno.4610:

C’mon, I think world linking is quite ok. Maybe the issue is: unfortunate terrible matchups in EU (t2, t3, t5) and stall/inert glicko rating in NA (t3, t4, t5)?

Unfortunate loopsided matchups wouldn’t be a problem if they changed in the next week. The stallness glicko creates make these unfortunate matches a worse issue than they are suposed to be.

Jeknar.6184:

Xeno.4610:

C’mon, I think world linking is quite ok. Maybe the issue is: unfortunate terrible matchups in EU (t2, t3, t5) and stall/inert glicko rating in NA (t3, t4, t5)?

Unfortunate loopsided matchups wouldn’t be a problem if they changed in the next week. The stallness glicko creates make these unfortunate matches a worse issue than they are suposed to be.

very true. 1-2 weeks of a bad match – simply do silly things like all Mesmer or all Minion Mecromancers for fun. 8 weeks though – hard to come up with ideas to make it fun (on either side – ktrains get old for most too) ….