Guild Wars 2

We finally made it, outmanned and became 1st due to server resilience, not paying guilds to come here or stacked pugs since free transfers closed like the other 2.

And now we are not outmanned anymore

Best comunity of GW2 = SoR

Best community of GW2 = TC

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/wuv/recruitment

ahm.. hmm.. what?

So he’s proud that his server is now even more stacked than BG and JQ?

Castaliea.3156:

So he’s proud that his server is now even more stacked than BG and JQ?

In before the “JQ and BG are full, SoR isn’t” rebuttal.

Castaliea.3156:

So he’s proud that his server is now even more stacked than BG and JQ?

Actually no, I just loged in game and at this time JQ and BG are both full. 3:36 US East coast time. While SoR is only very high. Right now BG is leading in PPT. Your servers are still way more stacked than SoR. If your not fielding the players at other times its becasue of what indo said.

Warlord.9074:

Castaliea.3156:

So he’s proud that his server is now even more stacked than BG and JQ?

Actually no, I just loged in game and at this time JQ and BG are both full. 3:36 US East coast time. While SoR is only very high. Reason why we are winning in PPT right now in WvW is becasue of what Indo said. Your servers are still way more stacked than SoR. If your not fielding the players its becasue of what indo said.

LOL! (see above)

PPT changed while i was writing my post so i edited it for accuracy. You quoted the wrong thing. Still the main point is BG and JQ are more stacked than SoR. We are the underdogs, in terms of coverage and numbers If you look at server population alone. We get people into WvW becasue of our community and perseverance enough said.

Warlord.9074:

Castaliea.3156:

So he’s proud that his server is now even more stacked than BG and JQ?

Actually no, I just loged in game and at this time JQ and BG are both full. 3:36 US East coast time. While SoR is only very high. Right now BG is leading in PPT. Your servers are still way more stacked than SoR. If your not fielding the players at other times its becasue of what indo said.

Full does not equal WvW population.

Full does not equal stacked.

It does equal server population.

SoR is still stacked with more WvW players than JQ or BG.

BG and JQ have more people that like to play a wide variety of aspects of this game.

Warlord.9074:

PPT changed while i was writing my post so i edited it for accuracy. You quoted the wrong thing. Still the main point is BG and JQ are more stacked than SoR. We are the underdogs, in terms of coverage and numbers If you look at server population alone. We get people into WvW becasue of our community and perseverance enough said.

You are not the under dogs if you are ranked #1. What the heck dude. You have a higher WvW population than 2 PvE centric servers I guess. Grats.

You know SoR is viewed as one of the more…hostile…server communities right? I don’t know personally, but this post goes against literally everything I have read and heard about SoR lol.

Please recruit in the recruitment forums they added for everyone. Otherwise, keep on trolling :p

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Warlord.9074:

Castaliea.3156:

So he’s proud that his server is now even more stacked than BG and JQ?

Actually no, I just loged in game and at this time JQ and BG are both full. 3:36 US East coast time. While SoR is only very high. Right now BG is leading in PPT. Your servers are still way more stacked than SoR. If your not fielding the players at other times its becasue of what indo said.

Full does not equal WvW population.

Full does not equal stacked.

It does equal server population.

SoR is still stacked with more WvW players than JQ or BG.

BG and JQ have more people that like to play a wide variety of aspects of this game.

The difference is we get our PVEers into WvW. Full does mean stacked btw. FULL means no one can transfer to your server becasue its full. Full means at this time you have more logged in players to your game than SoR does. Get those people into wvw and dont say your not stacked just becasue your not fielding players. If your server is full and your not fielding players work on it, instead of calling very high pop servers stackes.

I’m sorry but personally I find that video and speech embarrassing. I could understand how SoR would find it inspirational but to every other server it looks like a try hard kitten. I mean you say your community is great but your so called leader has to resort to flaming other servers in order to pump up your players.

Everyone is impressed with SoR, they have done a great job but your guys look pathetic constantly chest thumping at every turn. At least JQ had some humility when they were winning (excluding a few forum warriors).

GG SoR. Let us know when Indo has a more creative speech that wasn’t the bullet points of every match up thread we have.

Warlord.9074:

CreativeAnarchy.6324:

Warlord.9074:

Castaliea.3156:

So he’s proud that his server is now even more stacked than BG and JQ?

Actually no, I just loged in game and at this time JQ and BG are both full. 3:36 US East coast time. While SoR is only very high. Right now BG is leading in PPT. Your servers are still way more stacked than SoR. If your not fielding the players at other times its becasue of what indo said.

Full does not equal WvW population.

Full does not equal stacked.

It does equal server population.

SoR is still stacked with more WvW players than JQ or BG.

BG and JQ have more people that like to play a wide variety of aspects of this game.

The difference is we get our PVEers into WvW. Full does mean stacked btw. FULL means no one can transfer to your server becasue its full. Full means at this time you have more logged in players to your game than SoR does. Get those people into wvw and dont say your not stacked just becasue your not fielding players. If your server is full and your not fielding players work on it, instead of calling very high pop servers stackes.

You do know there a LOT more people that don’t care about WvW than do care right? Trying to get those people into WvW is more hindering than helpful even sometimes. It’s why we went through 8 months of PvE patches for a WvW patch.

Bragging about having a higher PvP population just seems silly. You guys are better than this supposedly, this thread would be that chance to prove it.

The day you convince me that SoR is not the most stacked WvW zerging server out of those 3 is the day I get to make a spiderpig pet.
I mean really, grats on #1. That goes without saying. It’s good that you’re happy but don’t deny why you got there.
You did not get #1 with fewer WvW’s than the other servers that’s all I’m trying to clear up because that’s what you implied as well as “calling-out” other servers.
Yes you got number one. Yes there was some rocky times. But you felt the need to come on forums and call out two other servers acting like you the underdog when mass 50-60++ SoR cap maps all night and day?
On JQ we don’t even say SoR zerg because that’s just two redundant words.
I’m not trying to kitten on your parade, you should be happy and celebrate, but don’t do it for the wrong reasons.

Pro tip
Full server =/= WvW’s stacked.

You can hate SoR all you want, but this server’s undeniable resilience and method of growth commands respect. It didn’t buy its way to the top. It didn’t receive a sudden influx of hundreds of people overnight. It remained in the shadow of JQ and others for months. The only thing SoR bought was time.

If you’re to loathe SoR, at least do so on the merits it deserves rather than the ones others rationalize out of thin air to make themselves feel better.

I’m in SoR, and I worked hard to get as far as I did in WvW. We also have good commanders with better strategies than “push and pull back”. I can’t count how many times I’ve been in a zerg vs. zerg fight where, through better tactics, SoR won despite being outnumbered. I’ve spent a lot of time tweaking my build and coming up with tactics that aren’t to just pwn random wandering n00bs, but to actually win at WvW. And the results have been awesome.

WvW is won only through one thing: Having more players than the enemy team.

Zikory.6871:

I’m sorry but personally I find that video and speech embarrassing. I could understand how SoR would find it inspirational but to every other server it looks like a try hard kitten. I mean you say your community is great but your so called leader has to resort to flaming other servers in order to pump up your players.

Everyone is impressed with SoR, they have done a great job but your guys look pathetic constantly chest thumping at every turn. At least JQ had some humility when they were winning (excluding a few forum warriors).

GG SoR. Let us know when Indo has a more creative speech that wasn’t the bullet points of every match up thread we have.

I’m quoting this post because that’s exactly what the OP says to me, too, as someone not on any of the top three servers. Furthermore, I remember back in the day when we faced #1 JQ and back when we faced #4 SoR, and I always felt that JQ was a more honorable server with better attitudes than the majority of SoR. I’d love to fight JQ again, but I couldn’t say the same about SoR.

But really, quit the chest thumping. You take your server’s namesake and rub his memory in the mud every time you do it.

Rising Dusk.2408:

Zikory.6871:

I’m sorry but personally I find that video and speech embarrassing. I could understand how SoR would find it inspirational but to every other server it looks like a try hard kitten. I mean you say your community is great but your so called leader has to resort to flaming other servers in order to pump up your players.

Everyone is impressed with SoR, they have done a great job but your guys look pathetic constantly chest thumping at every turn. At least JQ had some humility when they were winning (excluding a few forum warriors).

GG SoR. Let us know when Indo has a more creative speech that wasn’t the bullet points of every match up thread we have.

I’m quoting this post because that’s exactly what the OP says to me, too, as someone not on any of the top three servers. Furthermore, I remember back in the day when we faced #1 JQ and back when we faced #4 SoR, and I always felt that JQ was a more honorable server with better attitudes than the majority of SoR. I’d love to fight JQ again, but I couldn’t say the same about SoR.

But really, quit the chest thumping. You take your server’s namesake and rub his memory in the mud every time you do it.

As part of JQ I am honored to hear you feel that way and it makes me proud to be part of my server. Thank you.

… you guys do realize you are being trolled to the max by the OP, right?

Some mod, better lock this one fast, because it ain’t going nowhere but flame-city.

The ego of SoR players to make threads like this. They pop into every thread to chest thump. Even the T2 thread posters are sick of SoR posters popping into their thread to chest thump and brag.

People seems to judge a entire WvW community of a server based in a few forum warriors posts. That’s not cool.

Yea, i don’t think they know…….

Just to add more fuel to the fire ( cuz why not )

This pic, shows that SOR is at very high population, while BG and JQ are full.

BG = Stacked
JQ = Stacked
SOR = Not Stacked

Heuheuheuheu…….

If I got 1 copper every time a sor forum warrior posts about the “awsum communiteh!” they have, I could buy 10 more guilds for blackgate!

nothin’ lasts forever

Cliff notes: You are not special, get over yourself.

From 2nd and 3rd server perspective

When JQ won, they were stacked
When BG won, they were stacked
When SoR won, they are stacked

From winners perspective
JQ wins, skill
BG wins, skill
SoR wins, skill

Every server that wins once (except BG for some reason) gets a morale boost. More “part time” wvw and pve players join. Who doesnt like to win? On the opposite side, when you win for 10 weeks straight and/or push extra hours, people get bored or burnt out. Ebb and flow.

All 3 servers are strong. Fighting another one would bore me to death.

Tortitudo Probo.2598:

If I got 1 copper every time a sor forum warrior posts about the “awsum communiteh!” they have, I could buy 10 more guilds for blackgate!

Gotta give credit where credit’s due i suppose.

Omnitek.3876:

Every server that wins once (except BG for some reason) gets a morale boost. More “part time” wvw and pve players join. Who doesnt like to win? On the opposite side, when you win for 10 weeks straight and/or push extra hours, people get bored or burnt out. Ebb and flow.

That’s because that first BG win was purely a combination of luck, dedication, and complacence of JQ, not because BG has more coverage. Just like JQ’s first win against SoS I guess:) The effect you talk about only happens when the server has gained the coverage to dominate like SoR did.

Full server status includes PvE, PvP(WvW) and PvP(SPvP) gamemodes activities. I don’t know why some think that’s only WvW.

This thread. Full of win. Congrats SoR. You’re clearly #1

My wife and I were on SoR for a time. The community is great but the zerging was unbearable.

On that note, why are folks congratulating a server for being number one in WvW? What is there to congratulate? Congratulates in a competitive field should be for accomplishing something competitively. In WvW, number 1 simply does not mean you’re the best competitively. It does not mean that you have accomplished something extraordinary through competition, or that you have somehow competed and finished in first place, or that you have showed superior skill against another opponent.

In WvW it only means that you have more people on the maps with better coverage. Nothing more. Boasting about that makes you look foolish.

JakobGW.5730:

My wife and I were on SoR for a time. The community is great but the zerging was unbearable.

On that note, why are folks congratulating a server for being number one in WvW? What is there to congratulate? Congratulates in a competitive field should be for accomplishing something competitively. In WvW, number 1 simply does not mean you’re the best competitively. It does not mean that you have accomplished something extraordinary through competition, or that you have somehow competed and finished in first place, or that you have showed superior skill against another opponent.

In WvW it only means that you have more people on the maps with better coverage. Nothing more. Boasting about that makes you look foolish.

So much you don’t know.

please close this thread already, there’s so much Flamebait in here i don’t even know where to start.

That said, I honestly think that SoR does have a great community and a lot of good people on the server. The thing I take issue with is the assumption of many SoR players that they are the ONLY server with a good community. JQ has a great community, and I have a ton of fun playing with a lot of the people on here not just including my own guild. Yet I would never be so presumptuous as to say that we have the most fun community or the best community or anything like that.

Castaliea.3156:

Grimstar.6931:

You can hate SoR all you want, but this server’s undeniable resilience and method of growth commands respect. It didn’t buy its way to the top. It didn’t receive a sudden influx of hundreds of people overnight. It remained in the shadow of JQ and others for months. The only thing SoR bought was time.

If you’re to loathe SoR, at least do so on the merits it deserves rather than the ones others rationalize out of thin air to make themselves feel better.

The only thing I hate SoR for, and me make this abundantly clear, is the blatant obliviousness of seemingly your entire server to it’s sheer numbers of WvW’ers. I constantly hear SoR say they don’t zerg when you guys have without doubt the largest zergs of any of the 3 servers. Nothing about any SoR post here “commands respect” when all you’ve done is come in here show what complete air-head ignorant players you are. You can’t even admit you have larger WvW numbers now because I’m sure that’d just detract from your egos. I’ve seen a few nice moves on your server’s part but I’ve aslo seen a massive increase in players which I still haven’t even come close to seeing from JQ recently. You guys deserve #1, as a JQ player I admit that, but not for any of the reasons I’ve heard from this post. No one here is saying “You bought players, you suck, you don’t deserve it” except for who? You.

Did you guys(SoR) come on here and say “OMG, geat job SoR! It was hard and long awaited but we finally did it with the help of all our WvW’ers!!”? No. That would’ve been respectful. You came on here, called out 2 other servers who you very obviously have a very deep-seeded hatred for, not for what they did to you, but because you were simply losing a numbers game to them. When you finally did win the numbers game and got your long awaited “#1” the first thing you do is brag about how godly you are, call out 2 other servers, and dogmatically deny anything on your server could’ve possibly changed, and even if it had it was obviously due to what is frankly, a very poor, youtube video. That’s not only insulting to all other servers, but also every single SoR invader who you completely and arrogantly did not thank for their contribution to your new rank and you “command respect”? That’s a joke.

I can admit we have larger numbers. That’s easy. But it took months of slow growth for that to happen. Many of us don’t handle success very well. We’ve been second, third, or even fourth fiddle for a long time. Finally being in the drivers seat sends some people into a bragging frenzy. That’s not something exclusive to SoR, though.

Zikory.6871:

At least JQ had some humility when they were winning .

I don’t know how to explain to everyone around me why I suddenly burst out laughing.

Every server that has been #1 has thought they have been humble about it, and every single one of them was wrong.

JQ is still leagues ahead of the closest T2 competition, but your star has passed and it’s time to accept this fact with the dignity you never had when you were on top.

I’m sure it’s rough for JQ, as they were #3 or maybe #2 so many times and now see history repeating itself, as the same people who stacked HoD and SoS have now stacked BG and SoR to a point you cannot compete.

Yet, ask yourselves why you haven’t gotten transfers since SF and PRX at the end of free transfers? SF could respect you, having been in the same boat for so long, and PRX was insulted that SoS kept winning without them.

Since then? Your server is stacked, with full population and all hours coverage. You can break out your theories about WvW population vs. total population; but that’s not it.

The truth is that you ticked off so many people, that they stacked on two other servers just to take you down.

If anything, you should sit back and applaud how much effort it took to do this; but it’s about time you accept it.

Reslinal.2359:

Omnitek.3876:

Every server that wins once (except BG for some reason) gets a morale boost. More “part time” wvw and pve players join. Who doesnt like to win? On the opposite side, when you win for 10 weeks straight and/or push extra hours, people get bored or burnt out. Ebb and flow.

That’s because that first BG win was purely a combination of luck, dedication, and complacence of JQ, not because BG has more coverage. Just like JQ’s first win against SoS I guess:) The effect you talk about only happens when the server has the coverage to dominate like SoR does right now.

Cliffs: we all have excuses and are better than everyone else because….

You just proved my point. BG won because of skill/dedication because you are on BG. I disagree on most of the why because I am not on BG. Who is righT? U are on BG but biased. I am an outside that isn’t biased, but lack inside knowledge.

In the past 2 weeks there have been an increase in queue times. Not because we are stacked (all full servers are), but because of the morale boost of winning pulled people back to WvW.

SoR will fall out of #1 eventually. 3 weeks or 10, it will happen.

Omnitek.3876:

Reslinal.2359:

Omnitek.3876:

Every server that wins once (except BG for some reason) gets a morale boost. More “part time” wvw and pve players join. Who doesnt like to win? On the opposite side, when you win for 10 weeks straight and/or push extra hours, people get bored or burnt out. Ebb and flow.

That’s because that first BG win was purely a combination of luck, dedication, and complacence of JQ, not because BG has more coverage. Just like JQ’s first win against SoS I guess:) The effect you talk about only happens when the server has the coverage to dominate like SoR does right now.

Cliffs: we all have excuses and are better than everyone else because….

You just proved my point. BG won because of skill/dedication because you are on BG. I disagree on most of the why because I am not on BG. Who is righT? U are on BG but biased. I am an outside that isn’t biased, but lack inside knowledge.

In the past 2 weeks there have been an increase in queue times. Not because we are stacked (all full servers are), but because of the morale boost of winning pulled people back to WvW.

SoR will fall out of #1 eventually. 3 weeks or 10, it will happen.

Sorry, I did not claim BG won our first match because of skill, did I? If you paid attention to that first BG win at all you’d know that we won because our guilds pulled a big push the last minute when JQ slacked off, you can still find posts from JQ players that also admit it. And right after that match JQ came back with a vengeance and dominated 4 weeks in a roll.

This is a complete different situation with SoR’s current wining streak, you gained a guild that helps you to dominate coverage wise, that’s why your server morale is high and more players are coming out. This is also what happened to BG in our second and third win until SoR got more coverage.

SoR has more numbers in certain timezones, while blackgate and jade quarry overpower us in other timezones. But it’s not always a matter of numbers. A highly organized guild can wipe out a large zerg with smaller numbers, superior tactics always come out ahead. Not acknowledging that fact and saying WvW is based solely upon numbers is quite humorous.

Can I get a round of applause for SoR, greatest server of all time by divine right!

High-fives all around for TW and the Holy Saviors, aka the Hands of God!

Fact.5908:

SoR has more numbers in certain timezones, while blackgate and jade quarry overpower us in other timezones. But it’s not always a matter of numbers. A highly organized guild can wipe out a large zerg with smaller numbers, superior tactics always come out ahead. Not acknowledging that fact and saying WvW is based solely upon numbers is quite humorous.

Winning WvW is solely based upon numbers, everyone knows this.

Reslinal.2359:

Omnitek.3876:

Reslinal.2359:

Omnitek.3876:

Every server that wins once (except BG for some reason) gets a morale boost. More “part time” wvw and pve players join. Who doesnt like to win? On the opposite side, when you win for 10 weeks straight and/or push extra hours, people get bored or burnt out. Ebb and flow.

That’s because that first BG win was purely a combination of luck, dedication, and complacence of JQ, not because BG has more coverage. Just like JQ’s first win against SoS I guess:) The effect you talk about only happens when the server has the coverage to dominate like SoR does right now.

Cliffs: we all have excuses and are better than everyone else because….

You just proved my point. BG won because of skill/dedication because you are on BG. I disagree on most of the why because I am not on BG. Who is righT? U are on BG but biased. I am an outside that isn’t biased, but lack inside knowledge.

In the past 2 weeks there have been an increase in queue times. Not because we are stacked (all full servers are), but because of the morale boost of winning pulled people back to WvW.

SoR will fall out of #1 eventually. 3 weeks or 10, it will happen.

Sorry, I did not claim BG won our first match because of skill, did I? If you paid attention to that first BG win at all you’d know that we won because our guilds pulled a big push the last minute when JQ slacked off, you can still find posts from JQ players that also admit it. And right after that match JQ came back with a vengeance and dominated 4 weeks in a roll.

This is a complete different situation with SoR’s current wining streak, you gained a guild that helps you to dominate coverage wise, that’s why your server morale is high and more players are coming out. This is also what happened to BG in our second and third win until SoR got more coverage.

We win, not stacked. You win, stacked. Mystery of the universe solved.

By right, IRON won T1 solo. Thanks for carrying me offski!

pot.6805:

Fact.5908:

SoR has more numbers in certain timezones, while blackgate and jade quarry overpower us in other timezones. But it’s not always a matter of numbers. A highly organized guild can wipe out a large zerg with smaller numbers, superior tactics always come out ahead. Not acknowledging that fact and saying WvW is based solely upon numbers is quite humorous.

Winning WvW is solely based upon numbers, everyone know s this.

Yep. The server who has the biggest number on the board at the end of the matchup wins.

Im curious how long this thread can stay open…..

kefro.9312:

not paying guilds to come here

IRON

Awesome guild ,well worth the coin

I think people who think it is just a numbers game haven’t seen some of the tactics I have. I have been on both the winning and losing side to these tactics, and they are incredibly effective.

What usually happens (in SoR, anyway. Since I’ve seen other servers do this I assume they do it, too) is we get into mumble or raidcall or something like that with each other, and then we have a commander who is good enough to actually command on the field give orders. We’ll do our standard “how many guardians, how many staff elementalists, how many necromancers, how many mesmers” tallying to get our specs before we run off.

Then, we’ll try every method in the book to take other people down. What we’ll do a lot of the time is we’ll break off into two distinct groups that travel together: the melee group and the range group. The melee group is full of thieves, guardians, warriors, mesmers, and a few support players. The range group is full of elementalists, necromancers, engineers, rangers, and also some support players or players that don’t quite fit the bill.

The two groups, often times having individual commanders, will act differently. The melee group will hold point while the range group attacks form afar. The melee group will push while the range group will provide support to push. The melee group will self sacrifice while the range group retreats. The melee group will siege while the range group provides defense for that siege. Ultimately, with a series of walls and pulls, the melee group provides the most DPS, and by charging forward they can fragment enemy groups while getting tons of kills. The most important tactic is pincer formation, in which we attack an enemy group from two angles. Since they can only look one way and support tends to only function in one way, a well done pincer maneuver can put the end on a larger and superiorly equipped zerg.

Then there are also the class specific tactics that get used. The mesmers are often on the melee group because they have veil, and the melee group will often stack veil so they can run in undetected, then burst DPS the center of an enemy zerg as hard as possible inside of a time warp. Once the core of the zerg is either dead or dying, their strategy falls apart and lets the rangers control and kill them off. As the necro I often run in the melee group so I can use spectral wall to give everyone protection, and then use Putrid Mark in the melee train to transfer their conditions away, making the melee train nigh unstoppable for 8 seconds. When you have 10 or so people bashing everything in sight with a hammer and greatsword, those 8 seconds means victory. Antoher thing done is the groups will bunch up, while having an elementalist/engy drop a fire field so they can spam blast finishers to stack up 25 stacks of might, and once that is enough they’ll use a light field to get massive retaliation. Often times the best weapon against an arrow cart is mass retaliation, so knowing when to stack might and when to stack retaliation is quite important for the zerg. The elementalists with staves will use the lightning field to stun the enemy, while guardians will use warding to lock opponents down and defend a spot, and then necromancers will use well of corruption to remove stability, making a big control spot at a choke point in which everyone can use everything else and obliterate whomever comes through. This controlling choke point tactic is capable of downing zergs of nearly any size when done right, due to how zergs tend to trail behind themselves as time goes on.

The thieves are excellent at bursting down troublesome targets. I’m not talking about those wimpy ambush thieves that attack for no reason. I’m talking about coordinated thieves that target a single guardian or elementalist or memser in the group, and hit them at the same time. This takes out the time warp or the portal or the lighting field or whatever is causing the problem. The rangers and engineers provide wonderful offensive pressure at maximum range, and the rangers can provide great single target pressure at that range as well.

Omnitek.3876:

Reslinal.2359:

Omnitek.3876:

Reslinal.2359:

Omnitek.3876:

Every server that wins once (except BG for some reason) gets a morale boost. More “part time” wvw and pve players join. Who doesnt like to win? On the opposite side, when you win for 10 weeks straight and/or push extra hours, people get bored or burnt out. Ebb and flow.

That’s because that first BG win was purely a combination of luck, dedication, and complacence of JQ, not because BG has more coverage. Just like JQ’s first win against SoS I guess:) The effect you talk about only happens when the server has the coverage to dominate like SoR does right now.

Cliffs: we all have excuses and are better than everyone else because….

You just proved my point. BG won because of skill/dedication because you are on BG. I disagree on most of the why because I am not on BG. Who is righT? U are on BG but biased. I am an outside that isn’t biased, but lack inside knowledge.

In the past 2 weeks there have been an increase in queue times. Not because we are stacked (all full servers are), but because of the morale boost of winning pulled people back to WvW.

SoR will fall out of #1 eventually. 3 weeks or 10, it will happen.

Sorry, I did not claim BG won our first match because of skill, did I? If you paid attention to that first BG win at all you’d know that we won because our guilds pulled a big push the last minute when JQ slacked off, you can still find posts from JQ players that also admit it. And right after that match JQ came back with a vengeance and dominated 4 weeks in a roll.

This is a complete different situation with SoR’s current wining streak, you gained a guild that helps you to dominate coverage wise, that’s why your server morale is high and more players are coming out. This is also what happened to BG in our second and third win until SoR got more coverage.

We win, not stacked. You win, stacked. Mystery of the universe solved.

By right, IRON won T1 solo. Thanks for carrying me offski!

Hmm..it seems you are just trying to be condescending without even understanding what we are discussing. BG eventually beat JQ because we got more stacked, it lasted two weeks until SoR got more stacked. However the first time BG beat JQ (was Tysm even on SoR that time?) was not because we had more coverage but because JQ slacked off, just like that’s how JQ beat SoS back that one time in new year.

Winning because you are stacked will bring up morale until you get beat in the coverage game, winning because of one time circumstances will not persist is all I am saying.

Using the server stats on the Transfer window is misleading. It indicates how many people are in that server total, not WvW only. Anyone who’s been in tier one for the last month knows full well how SoR has been fielding far more players in WvW than BG and JQ. As for being the best community, well that’s entirely subjective now, isn’t it.

And the hardest part about all this is coordination. You see, there is no one there to teach you the proper timing on when to push, when to veil, when to lay down the stun fields, where the melee train should go, where the ranged group should sit, where to focus the choke points, when to bunch up and use blast finishers, when to use what field, when to lay down siege, what siege to use, what targets to single out, what to pull, where the best treb points are, how to blindly treb, where to put traps, and for all of the things I have forgotten to mention. You have to learn the timing for things, and get the feel for the combat. Then you can start to build up counter strategies, like laying down AoEs against stealthed melee trains, stacking stability patches into choke points to run right through them, and using decoy groups so you can counter-pincer an enemy zerg.