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Posted by: Hyori.3624

Hyori.3624

Q:

So my world is at the bottom of the pitiful barrel ranked number 24 at Tier 8.. (Nobody ever said anything about ranks when I selected a world)

Every week we are looking at the same scenario,* map I have attached*, this time we’re red.

Barely anybody does WvW from my server,
How is any player from my server even able to do 100% map completion for WvW when everything is always enemy capped, guards aggro automatically, and you can’t even reach most of the POI without breaking down gates and walking within inches of the POI?

Is there some sort of blasphemy trick I’m not seeing?

I mean I can see it be done if there was like some sort of “cooling off” period say 1-2 hours every day of Cease fire where any player can roam freely to claim any POI they are missing. Because right now unless I transfer or convince a large group of people to WvW(Highly unlikely) my chances of getting 100% map in WvW is slim to none.

Also waiting for colors to change is a no go because within 1-2 hour of WvW resetting our points was capped enemy colors.

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Posted by: Tom Gore.4035

Tom Gore.4035

Well you could in theory rally your server for a WvW push to get at least the closest POIs each week as I imagine there are other players there who share the same problem.

But in reality I think your best choice would be to transfer to a server that is more active in WvW.

Best of luck. Remember that it’s a skin in a game you’re after (I assume you’re doing world completion for Gift of Exploration) and not something to lose sleep over.

One – Piken Square

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Posted by: Hyori.3624

Hyori.3624

(I assume you’re doing world completion for Gift of Exploration) and not something to lose sleep over.

Actually I don’t really care for legendaries that much I find some ugly, but what I do want is at least one of my characters to have 100% map completion, so I could finally say “Never, Again”

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Posted by: laokoko.7403

laokoko.7403

You could pay those gems to switch server.

Since you dont’ seem to care about wvw. You don’t need to pay to move back. But the fee to switch server is quite big.

That is if you really care that much about map completion.

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

One thing you can do is take a small group to recap the map, Ive done that many times its not that hard. If you have some friends who need to map, can have someone pop a tag and get people to rally on your group, can quickly recap a map with a small group and map everything with little difficulty, just run to supply camps before attacking keeps/towers and after, also resupply when you need more siege for inner like bay/hills, if your not using a golem.

If you get truly desperate, you can always transfer. Farm gold and convert to gems if you want or just spend rl cash, up to you.

Also you should take that picture off, because Im pretty sure its against forum rules. Good Luck

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Posted by: X T D.6458

X T D.6458

Also there can never be a cooling off period or any such thing in wvw, scores can sometimes literally be so close and be decided in the last couple hours, it would never be fair to just stop everything so some people can map, I know it would help some people but its not a practical solution.

I say what needs to be said, get used to it.
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Posted by: aspirine.6852

aspirine.6852

kitten that server is really bad for getting the WvW completion. I was in lowest tier when I did my completion but still we capped and fought so it was not as bad as you have it.
I think I would just pay the gems to transfer to another server

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Posted by: Dreadforce.6980

Dreadforce.6980

I’m on sf and I have map completion 100% with 2 characters and www maps done with a few of my others. I say you have 3 options transfer, wait for servers to be merged or try to get people into www.

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Posted by: Gobble D Goop.4081

Gobble D Goop.4081

Guide for WvW map completion

Method 1: (only for active servers)
actively follow the commander around the map as they take things

Method 2: (any server)
transfer to an active server and follow method 1

Method 3: (most popular method for lower tier servers)
Run to objectives on reset night to get exploration quickly (before your server loses things). WvW matchup resets 1 hour and ~5 minutes after the daily reset on Friday night (NA servers)
When the matchup resets, your server has a claim over all the keeps and towers in their Borderland and the keep and 4 towers for your corner in Eternal Battlegrounds.

When reset occurs go to your BL and run like crazy (bring swiftness!) to the 2 souternmost keeps (Bay and Hills) get all the POIs and vistas there. Then move north from them visiting towers, camps, and the garrison. You should have the 3 keeps and all the towers and camps north of Bay/Hills (dont worry if it takes more than 1 week). If your server still has stuff in EB, then go there and pick up your keep, 4 towers and the 2 camps on your side (will likely need more than one week for this and BL). to get the stuff in the south, you have to wait until your color is NOT the same as the BL (go to BLs that are “not your server name borderlands,” unless you are really fast and can get to that southernmost tower before the enemy gets it). You will need 4 friends. You can activate the commander NPC (seigerazor/siegecrusher) if he is there. He will help you take the tower closest to your spawn. You can also take the 2 camps nearest to your spawn and get the south skill point/vistas.

Stonemist Castle will probably be your biggest issue if your world never takes it. The best way i can see to do it is to follow an enemy zerg into it (be careful they will see you as an easy target). Stealth is your best friend (if youre a mes or thief just equip your stealths and carefully run around the perimiter picking up the POIs, otherwise bring a freind who can stealth you). You have to follow your enemy through the inner gate as well in order to get the skill point (this should be done after most of them leave).

Tips:
*Be patient, this is a PvP map and it might take some time to do if your server has 0 presence
*Always avoid enemies when you can. Anyone that sees you will tell their 50 “freinds” in map chat and generally try to engage you
*Stealth, speed boosts, and even invulnerability skills are very helpful
*non-peak times can also be helpful if you are against servers where people actually get some sleep

Good Luck with your exploration

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Posted by: Synosius.9876

Synosius.9876

For thd sake of OPs sanity, know that SF was getting focused this weekend. It might let up now during mid week.

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Posted by: joneirikb.7506

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I agree that getting world completion on the lower tiers can be hard. I did manage 100% world completion in tier8 myself back when we where second to last spot for a good while, and my server had not been green even once during about 2 months or so.

Mostly I managed this because I found a guild that like roaming, so we kept playing small groups 3-5 players, after just playing with them I ended up having all towers and camps. The only challenge left was keeps, they are easy to get on your own home border, both because of reset time (as mentioned above) and because your home server often recap these. The largest problem for me was the green keeps (because we where never green).

For those though spots, I recommend playing at off hours, night morning etc, get some friends or guild members to join you in one of the off hours, and go work at it. (Easiest is Cata spot south bay, cata spot west ills, and water gate garri).

Since you’re up against SoR I recommend just learning the time when GSCH plays and avoid that time, and try to pick sometime after they’ve played for the day, will make it much easier for you.

It can be done, you just have to be very patient.

Edit: I’ve also seen some large PvE/PvX guilds occasionally do map completion runs, perhaps talk with some of those guilds on your server, and see if they can’t do a once per month run to try to get map completion on a WvW map?

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Posted by: Darius.1430

Darius.1430

There have been several servers that sat at the bottom, but no server has stayed there. Be patient and keep watching for opportunities.

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Posted by: Shademehr.1397

Shademehr.1397

It took me MONTHS to get the green keep Vista when we were in the “Groundhog Day” matchup against SF during the Glicko Ghetto days. One day the stars aligned just right and we rally’d the entire server (all seven of us, ha!) and managed to get the keep. SF was back inside in a few minutes, and boy howdy was that the most stressful Vista/JP I’ve ever had to get in my life. It was worse than the Halloween Clocktower! haha