Guild Wars 2

I’d like to have 3 different emotes that offer opposing players the option to duel in Heart of the Mists, Obsidian Sanctum and Guild Halls.

/HotM “Sea of Sorrows Invader requests a duel in Heart of the Mists”

/OS “Sea of Sorrows Invader requests a duel in Obsidian Sanctum”

/GH “Sea of Sorrows Invader requests a duel in their Guild Hall”

I’m making this request because of the following reasons…

1. We need players in wvw to contribute to their side more often than not. Over the years I’ve seen enough players just standing around in duel circles taking up limited space.

2. There are a plethora of unnecessary “this and this is op in 1v1” complaints on these forums by duelers about profession builds designed to be sturdy and effective in combat situations.

3. HotM, OS and Guild Halls are great places to duel with little to no interruption. HotM has custom arena maps designed specifically for players to test their skills against like-minded players. OS is often desolate and makes a great communal dueling space. GH are another underutilized area for dueling without interruption.

4. We need wvw, and these forums, to be less toxic… There are way too many unnecessary complaints about stuff like “blobs” in a mode designed for rvr… and unnecessary complaints about “seige” in a mode designed for seige warfare… and unnecessary complaints about “this is OP 1v1” in a mode where players will fight against tough builds designed to survive and win.

5. This goes hand and hand with number 4… We cannot push our “social rules” or personal etiquette on other players in a mode that was coded and designed to have specific sets of rules. “Blobs” are there so get use to it. Seige is there so get use to it and stop complaints that opponents use all tools available to survive. If you want to duel then anticipate disruptions by others. If you want to duel then expect a skilled player to come along and beat up your pixels 1v1 at times.

…This is not meant to be insulting to anyone. I’m just trying to be rational here so we can focus on the main issues in wvw, not read page after page of unnecessary personal issues that clutter up these forums, like “dueling etiquette in rvr” and “this OP 1v1 in rvr mode” stuff… Expect a mass of players running around and expect seige to be used, but take the power back in your hands to duel in places designed for a better and uninterrupted dueling experience.

I understand that solo and small scale combat is part of rvr gameplay, and that professions and combat systems need work, but I’m specifically trying to tackle the unnecessary 1v1 dueler gripes that keep popping up.

Lol and you were crying about 1v1 threads in WvW and you want this?

So you join WvW in order to use an emote to leave WvW?

Right…

Or you could just duel right there and then for 5-10 minutes and then go your merry way.

Duelists are still players in the field. We dont want to loose them to other fields anymore than we want to loose guilds scrimming. It’s part of what makes WvW an open ended PvP experience. kitten those saying “booohooo the border is full, please leave so that I can bring my 80 man zerg in because I need that to fight”.

If there was 50 duelers per map every day of the week, fine I might concede that it’s a problem. But right now as is with maps not even queueing primetime unless its T1, I dont see why you need a solution for a problem that doesnt exist.

Or you could use the LFG section for WvW and list your matchup and request duels???

Loosmaster.8263:

Lol and you were crying about 1v1 threads in WvW and you want this?

It’s to encourage the use of better areas to duel and help change the mindsets of players complaining about 1v1 related stuff in the rvr mode.

There’s always /bow…

Most players know /bow means “duel” with no stomping. It’s been this way for 4 years now despite the “1v1 shouldn’t happen in wvw at all” nonsense.

Swagger.1459:

Loosmaster.8263:

Lol and you were crying about 1v1 threads in WvW and you want this?

It’s to encourage the use of better areas to duel and help change the mindsets of players complaining about 1v1 related stuff in the rvr mode.

You must not understand that dueling is kind of an organic thing. I’m not standing there with a sign that says “duels here”. I do use the GH arena to train with guildies but the arena is very limited. I can’t very well teach terrain tactics if there is no terrain.
1v1 is part of the rvr mode whether you like it on not. It’s about what you do for your team. Me dueling for 10 minutes here or there hurts nothing. In fact the people standing at spawn are hurting your cause more.

then go duel somwhere else like sanctum the place is empty no one wil kill you there -

sephiroth.4217:

There’s always /bow…

Most players know /bow means “duel” with no stomping. It’s been this way for 4 years now despite the “1v1 shouldn’t happen in wvw at all” nonsense.

Actually, I thought “/bow” means “well played”, but that’s because (a) I don’t duel so (b) I don’t pay attention to any presumed etiquette. It’s WvW and I’ll help out my teammates who are being attacked, especially when they are along the primary routes to objectives. If someone reminds me that they might be dueling, then, sure, I’ll hold back.

Never presume that other people share the same etiquette as you do.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

sephiroth.4217:

There’s always /bow…

Most players know /bow means “duel” with no stomping. It’s been this way for 4 years now despite the “1v1 shouldn’t happen in wvw at all” nonsense.

Actually, I thought “/bow” means “well played”, but that’s because (a) I don’t duel so (b) I don’t pay attention to any presumed etiquette. It’s WvW and I’ll help out my teammates who are being attacked, especially when they are along the primary routes to objectives. If someone reminds me that they might be dueling, then, sure, I’ll hold back.

Never presume that other people share the same etiquette as you do.

I never do, If they don’t bow back, I quaggan stomp them. If they do, I duel.

Or I just follow enemy zergs as a Quaggan or sit in enemy keeps as Quaggan until enemy Quaggans join me. So far only SF has killed solo Quaggans in groups. Even most of YB/SoS let me follow them.

(Also thanks for the Keg [EL])

Just had to defend SF. Long ago, before the linking mess, SF was stomping FC. A few of us transformed into yaks and some SF escorted us around their side of ebg. It was hilarious. I am sorry if some stomped you as quaggan but most SF are super fun.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

sephiroth.4217:

There’s always /bow…

Most players know /bow means “duel” with no stomping. It’s been this way for 4 years now despite the “1v1 shouldn’t happen in wvw at all” nonsense.

Actually, I thought “/bow” means “well played”, but that’s because (a) I don’t duel so (b) I don’t pay attention to any presumed etiquette. It’s WvW and I’ll help out my teammates who are being attacked, especially when they are along the primary routes to objectives. If someone reminds me that they might be dueling, then, sure, I’ll hold back.

Never presume that other people share the same etiquette as you do.

No we shouldn’t presume, but if you’ve been in wvw for over 100hrs, you should know…If not, you’re not paying attention. If I see 1v1 I ask “duel?” Over half are ppl actually dueling. I’ll usually sit and see if I can get a turn. Players who roam alone are usually looking for them, so I usually assume and don’t jump right in. Like someone said above, they’re organinc, and can happen anywhere, so I always ask. But I also would be overly mad if someone did jump in, I just tell em it’s a duel, and if they ignore me and keep killing, I let the person I was dueling kill them. And we usually give em a siege burial.

Avengedeath.4671:

SF are super fun.

I honestly have nothing against duelers and hope they enjoy duelling, but I really wish there was some way to differentiate duelers from gankers. Whenever I run past SMC and see a couple enemies hanging out, I wonder if they are waiting for more duelers to show up, or if they are going to harass me. I would love it if you could declare yourself a dueler (with a little crossed sword tag on your head or something) upon entering wvw and have the following things occur:

1) Duelers show up as another color on the minimap that is visible to all sides without being marked by sentries (so you guys can find each other)
2) Duelers cannot harm or be harmed by npcs
3) Duelers cannot deploy or use siege, or claim objectives
4) Duelers are invulnerable to non-duelers, and vice versa.
5) Upon removing the dueler tag, the dueler is transported to spawn.

Osu.6307:

4) Duelers are invulnerable to non-duelers, and vice versa.

Not that I care but: people would use them as scouts and rivers of tears would be formed…

You are probably right. When making a change to any mmo, the first question any dev must ask is, “If I was a total neckbeard troll kitten, how would I exploit this?”