Guild Wars 2

There are some things in this game, which haven’t be thought about, that they should get equalized for the new WvW-Reward Tracks, when implementing them basically on a 1:1 kind of way into the game like they work for PvP..

However, I kinmd of think the WvW-Versions works much worser and much slower than the PvP version, because there are missing some important things that allowed PvPers to speed up their progress, which should get all included also too for WvW and the most important difference is, PvPers aren#t forced to wait always 15 Minutes, just before they can make again progress ..

No PvP match takes 15 minutes!! Thus you make much quicker progress on a PvP Reward Track..

This needs to get equalized…

The pointless Progression Point Caps need either to be increased and there should also be NO difference between the Borderlands and EOTM.
Currently you can get maximum every 15 Minutes in the Borderlands 550 Points, so basically 1/40 part.
Means, you need exactly basically when you allways stay in the Borderlands 37*15 Minutes = 555 Minutes or 9,25 hours to max 1x a WvW reward Track…

In the same time can you max a PvP Reward Track multiple times easily
So max Point schould get increased ffrom 550 to 1000 and ther Point Ticker should get reduced from 15 to 10 Minutes
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then now to the missing thigns that should get added on top of this:

There exists Guild Enhancement: PvP Reward Boost …
Change this Effect to “Guild Enhancement: Game Reward Boost”, so that it increase the Reward Tracks for BOTH now, PvP and WvW, so that this Potion that you get from the Tavern that lasts 24hours increases then both Reward tracks by up to +10%

In regard of WvW would this mean, that it would increase the WvW Point Ticker for your from 1000 to 1100 every 10 Minutes.
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Celebration & Birthday Boosters: They currently also only increase the PvP Reward Tracks, they also need to add their individual 10% Reward Track Increase for WvW, so that you can come together with the Guild Enhancement from 1100 to 1200 per 10 Minutes

Experience Booster: Currently gives 50% Boost to the PvP Reward Track only, needs to give also 50% Boost towards the WvW Reward Track Booster too, so with this and the other Boosts active you can come to 1700Points/Minutes

Call of the Mists – There is somethign for WvW too, but it raises only if I looked right the gain of W-Exp, but not also like the PVP version does by 15-25% the Reward Track progress.
this needs to be looked at and if it is missing ,then add this also too, because with this you could come then together with all other boosts to 1850 to 1950 Points/10 minutes when for example some WvW events are running, or a WvW Tournament is active
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As a little compensation to make WvW Reward Tracks not too easy through all these Boosts, Anet can consider that the required amount of needed points for each Reward Track Tier of the 40 gets slightly bigger.
Currently it seems so that all 40 Tiers always need just only 500 Points.
Maybe it could be changed then so thsat with every raised tier, the next tier costs 50-100 points more.

I think these changes are needed to equalize the WvW Reward tracks more towards the same PvP Vrsions, so that basicayl you can progress on both with nearly the same speed and not with such massive differences, like right now, only because Anet forgot to make all those buffs and boosters ect. let work also for WvW and due to this artificially slowdown every WvW player has due to gettign progress only every currently 15 minutes, what isn’t in my opinion very well thought out, because PvPers have not such a artificial slowdown, they progress IN EVERY MATCH, even if they lose…

They dont need to wait 15 minutes, before they get points, just need to make a match that lasts maybe 5-10 Minutes and get alot more progress on the tracks, than players in WvW due to all these boosters ….

Agree with this.
At least all boosters should boost reward track progression in WvW and PvP alike.

+1 equal treatment for game mode track progress.

+1 to put your message in the Official Feedback thread

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Official-Feedback-Thread-WvW-Reward-Tracks

(and +1 to an equal treatment)

I agree on the boosters part, that’s just inconsistent.
EotM giving 3/4 of full rewards seems fine to me, but I wouldn’t really mind if they changed it either.

There are however several things I disagree with in the rest:
Most importantly the idea that progress should be equal (or similar) while PvP reward tracks are instead of loot and WvW ones in addition to loot.

No PvP match takes 15 minutes!!

They can if you include queues, during which no reward track progress is earned.

So max Point schould get increased ffrom 550 to 1000 and ther Point Ticker should get reduced from 15 to 10 Minutes

While I wouldn’t necessarily be opposed to a faster rate of gaining points I’m not sure it is needed.
The point ticker length however should be determined solely by what is best for WvW without caring about the reward tracks in the slightest. Although I would like to see the reward tracks seperated from the “tick” for several reasons.

Orpheal.8263:

Currently it seems so that all 40 Tiers always need just only 500 Points.
Maybe it could be changed then so thsat with every raised tier, the next tier costs 50-100 points more.

PvP tracks cost the same per reward as well (also always 500 if I’m not mistaken), if the WvW reward tracks go too fast surely the better option would be to reduce the rate you gain points, it seems better that they all take the right amount of time rather than the early ones going too fast and the later ones too slow.

+1

Haven’t played the new changes patch yet but I already knew there would be some grey areas regarding track progress between PvP and WvW, especially the boosters.

Those booster need to be streamlined into both PvP and WvW reward track progress, and clearly indicated.

Orpheal.8263:

The pointless Progression Point Caps need either to be increased and there should also be NO difference between the Borderlands and EOTM.

Nope by your own argument EOTM should actually be capped and slowed.
You ask for parity between PvP and WvW track progress. PvP farming gains track progress at approximately one third the rate of normal PvP and is capped at 1/4 of a track per day.
You should therefore apply this same mechanism to WvW tracks if you want equality between PvP tracks and WvW tracks.
EOTM is WvW reward farming and therefore should have participation at one third the level of normal WvW and capped at 1/4 per day.

If you want things to be equal between PvP and WvW reward tracks then you need to be consistent.

I don’t really wanna complain since there used to be nothing and currently we at least have a little something. I’m grateful for that.
But yeah, if there’s any chance of bringing up the reward track progress speed even remotely to PvP, I would love that. I was never really a huge fan of PvP or WvW and spent only little time there, but since the introduction of reward tracks into WvW, I find myself wanting to spend a lot more time there. Only a bit disappointed that all rewards come so infrequently and I only ever see the bar go up by very little. Maybe I’m doing things wrong (I often don’t manage to tag any reasonable amount of enemies), but since others also complain about the speed, I guess this is a global issue.

There’s a feedback thread to post about the rewards track, please feel free to post there as well.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Official-Feedback-Thread-WvW-Reward-Tracks/first#post6112321

Also potion boost like spvp will be coming once the testing is finished.

McKenna Berdrow.2759:

I wanted to hop in the thread and thank everyone for all of the feedback so far! It has been really helpful!

I also wanted to remind everyone that Potions of WvW Reward will be added once the beta is complete. They will work the same as Potions of PvP Reward in that they will drop from dailies and progress WvW Reward Tracks. Just something to keep in mind that will be coming in the future.