Guild Wars 2

I think the gift of battle reward track should give 3x 3 random superior blue prints (instead of the molten lodestone splinters) like the hero reward track. Then the pve heroes could at least donate something to their commander for carrying them.

Malediktus.9250:

I think the gift of battle reward track should give 3x 3 random superior blue prints (instead of the molten lodestone splinters) like the hero reward track. Then the pve heroes could at least donate something to their commander for carrying them.

The devs are adding in legendary crafting mats and I’d much prefer stuff like that over blueprints.

That’s a rude second sentence, you should be grateful players are there in the first place with all things considered.

WvW commanders don’t “deserve” anything for having PvE players in their squad. If you as a commander don’t want someone that you think is a PvE player in there then just kick them. Its simple. But you don’t deserve anything from them. Period. Don’t be so entitled.

OriOri.8724:

WvW commanders don’t “deserve” anything for having PvE players in their squad. If you as a commander don’t want someone that you think is a PvE player in there then just kick them. Its simple. But you don’t deserve anything from them. Period. Don’t be so entitled.

People like you are why less and less people want to command. Ungrateful rallybots everywhere who dont know that you can easily burn through 50-100g of siege and buff food tables per commanding session.
Plus you can still sell the blueprints on trading post if you think your commander was bad and deserves nothing.

Malediktus.9250:

OriOri.8724:

WvW commanders don’t “deserve” anything for having PvE players in their squad. If you as a commander don’t want someone that you think is a PvE player in there then just kick them. Its simple. But you don’t deserve anything from them. Period. Don’t be so entitled.

People like you are why less and less people want to command. Ungrateful rallybots everywhere who dont know that you can easily burn through 50-100g of siege and buff food tables per commanding session.
Plus you can still sell the blueprints on trading post if you think your commander was bad and deserves nothing.

I think you might have missed the point by focusing on the word ‘deserve’ — the commander isn’t a paid position and squad members are volunteers, not tithing subjects. If folks want to support or tip, great.

Similarly, I think the respondent you quoted missed the OP’s point by focusing on choice of words.

The question is: should the Gift of Battle reward track offer WvW-centric rewards? standard PvE-like rewards similar to other tracks? (not counting including some legendary rewards, since, of course, it’s a track for working on legendaries) I can see it either way.

I think it would be great if all of the WvW reward tracks offered a mix, 50% standard reward track stuff and 50% wvw-specific things, like blueprints.

I think people are more likely to donate some blueprints to their commanders if they get them from the reward tracks instead of having to go out of their way to buy them.
It is like “hey I just got 3 blue prints from this reward track and the commander is doing a good job so I might as well send them to him”.

Malediktus.9250:

I think people are more likely to donate some blueprints to their commanders if they get them from the reward tracks instead of having to go out of their way to buy them.
It is like “hey I just got 3 blue prints from this reward track and the commander is doing a good job so I might as well send them to him”.

If you are a good commander then ask kindly for seige donations to help you and the team out… Don’t insult any players behind the keyboard or assume that they owe you something.

Malediktus.9250:

I think people are more likely to donate some blueprints to their commanders if they get them from the reward tracks instead of having to go out of their way to buy them.
It is like “hey I just got 3 blue prints from this reward track and the commander is doing a good job so I might as well send them to him”.

I agree with this and I think it’s a decent reason to offer blueprints as rewards in the GoB track, especially if they are superior or guild BP (which currently have similar TP prices to most cores and lodes, so the potential value wouldn’t change, much).

Swagger.1459:

Malediktus.9250:

I think people are more likely to donate some blueprints to their commanders if they get them from the reward tracks instead of having to go out of their way to buy them.
It is like “hey I just got 3 blue prints from this reward track and the commander is doing a good job so I might as well send them to him”.

If you are a good commander then ask kindly for seige donations to help you and the team out… Don’t insult any players behind the keyboard or assume that they owe you something.

Some people are just a drag and you need to call them out.

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

Malediktus.9250:

I think people are more likely to donate some blueprints to their commanders if they get them from the reward tracks instead of having to go out of their way to buy them.
It is like “hey I just got 3 blue prints from this reward track and the commander is doing a good job so I might as well send them to him”.

I agree with this and I think it’s a decent reason to offer blueprints as rewards in the GoB track, especially if they are superior or guild BP (which currently have similar TP prices to most cores and lodes, so the potential value wouldn’t change, much).

Currently the triumphant armor reward path gives 1x 3 superior blueprints and the hero weapon path gives 3x 3 superior blueprints. The superior blueprints even have a chance for omega golems. It seems odd to me that no other WvW reward track gives you any WvW supplies-

That’s because most of them are just lazy copies of the PVP versions. The GOB track in particular is exceptionally lazy, it’s just the Balthazar backpiece track (which was already an awful track, other than the actual end reward) with a different reward at the end.

After already putting up with attacks and insults for ‘being a rallybot’, and countless complaints for ‘using the wrong weapons/build/profession/stats on armor/Devs know and what not’ while doing stuff I don’t really want to do (again and again and again) I for one don’t feel I “owe” anyone anything for “carrying” me.
Sure, there are nice people in WvW, but they seem few and far between. There are good commanders, but atleast on my server they are also few and far between. Hey, I’d even take a kitten one that is atleast online somewhere other than in EB.
I like the idea that they will finally add something that has anything to do with Legendary Crafting to the only 100% Legendary oriented track, I really do not want it to have anything to do with WvW stuff..

Najten.2418:

After already putting up with attacks and insults for ‘being a rallybot’, and countless complaints for ‘using the wrong weapons/build/profession/stats on armor/Devs know and what not’ while doing stuff I don’t really want to do (again and again and again) I for one don’t feel I “owe” anyone anything for “carrying” me.
Sure, there are nice people in WvW, but they seem few and far between. There are good commanders, but atleast on my server they are also few and far between. Hey, I’d even take a kitten one that is atleast online somewhere other than in EB.
I like the idea that they will finally add something that has anything to do with Legendary Crafting to the only 100% Legendary oriented track, I really do not want it to have anything to do with WvW stuff..

I’m sorry you had bad experiences. The vast majority of people I’ve met in WvW are friendly, helpful. There are as many trolls in /map as there are in PvE and they like to complain/blame as much as the ones in PvE.

I say this as someone who started, like you, as a PvE-focused person just aiming for map completion (never mind legendary gifts). I also go long periods without playing WvW, so it’s common that I won’t know anyone on the maps (and more importantly, they don’t know me).

As with PvE, the game mode tends to deliver based on what you put into it. If you want to get more out of it, ask for help or ask questions. Look for someone who seems to know what they are doing. (Or if you want it to be a miserable experience that you just want to get past, then focus just on doing dailies and capping monuments for the extra bit of WXP — that is the least-effort method, although it takes a bit longer.)

Illconceived Was Na.9781:

I’m sorry you had bad experiences. The vast majority of people I’ve met in WvW are friendly, helpful. There are as many trolls in /map as there are in PvE and they like to complain/blame as much as the ones in PvE.

I say this as someone who started, like you, as a PvE-focused person just aiming for map completion (never mind legendary gifts). I also go long periods without playing WvW, so it’s common that I won’t know anyone on the maps (and more importantly, they don’t know me).

As with PvE, the game mode tends to deliver based on what you put into it. If you want to get more out of it, ask for help or ask questions. Look for someone who seems to know what they are doing. (Or if you want it to be a miserable experience that you just want to get past, then focus just on doing dailies and capping monuments for the extra bit of WXP — that is the least-effort method, although it takes a bit longer.)

I’ve honestly never come across such a toxic environement in GW2 PvE as I have in WvW. Sure, there are some sourpusses in PvE too, but very few trolls (and they usually get shut down very fast) and apart from people moaning about one group killing the Vine in Auric Basin too fast on some side not much grief in chat either. Guess nothing gets the blood pumping as much as competing vs some other server, but WvW is just not welcoming at all in my experience. It’s not just toxic players (yes, a lot might be nice/impartial but the few that do make their voices heard in a negative way have a very big impact and have turned several people I know off WvW permanently) but it’s also quite overwhelming and unforgiving to new players.
It’s also been my experience when it comes to the WvW tracks that apart from getting your tick going, there’s no benefit to participate actively over repairing a wall or recapping a ruin every 10 minutes.. And if I’m going to “get yelled at” no matter what I do or don’t do I lose interest in putting in effort. It takes just as long either way. I would’ve preferred if actively doing something would atleast give you some extra progress on those reward tracks.. Not to mention how nice it would feel if you weren’t “punished” for trying to scout or defend an objective (like a tower) without managing to actually kill an enemy player, just tag them and fend them off..
Unfortunately not everyone can get assigned as a scout by the 0-1 commander in EB..

And don’t even get me started on the random participation in capture events cuz apparently breaking down a door, tagging the Tower Lord and DPS:ing it from 100% to 10% health before getting knocked off the bloody tower by his massive knockback doesn’t count as capping a tower just because you’re not standing in the cap circle.. :@ (Yeah, I have loads of steam to blow off from participating way more in WvW lately than I think is good for my sanity.)