Guild Wars 2

So my suggestion for this problem (coz the map hopping to get outnumbered buff is a problem) would be to rework the outnumbered mechanic itself.

I’d suggest making Outnumbered proximity based instead of map wide. Yes there might be a huge blob on my team in another part of the map, but i’m getting kicked in 5v1 at the other end of the map… so I don’t benefit from the buff? no matter how badly I am outnumbered?

If you had to actually have more enemy numbers around you to recieve the buff, then players would be motivated to go out and actively find groups of enemies to try to boost their pip score, instead of sitting in the base afk with 6 tiers of participation maintained by doing one thing every 10 minutes.

Obviously I’m not sure what exact ratios of players nearby could be used for this, but the concept I believe is sound.

For goodness sakes, will everyone stop worrying about pips!

There is NO problem!

Blockhead Magee.3092:

For goodness sakes, will everyone stop worrying about pips!

There is NO problem!

The fact that “everyone” as you put it, is complaining suggests that there is a problem.

Regardless this isn’t just about the pips, it’s about getting killed in outnumbered fights without receiving benefit from the outnumbered buff.

Please answer my question here

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Outmanned-buff-is-amazing/first#post6627427

Storm Valkyrie.9471:

Blockhead Magee.3092:

For goodness sakes, will everyone stop worrying about pips!

There is NO problem!

The fact that “everyone” as you put it, is complaining suggests that there is a problem.

Regardless this isn’t just about the pips, it’s about getting killed in outnumbered fights without receiving benefit from the outnumbered buff.

Yes I want this so bad. I can solo dive into Zerg to get additional pips $$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$$

A simpler solution could be to only allow outnumbered bonuses after a tick has passed? This would mean you would need to be in a map for 5-10 minutes before you could receive the +5 pip buff – effectively forcing people to “pick” a server and stick to it.

Westenev.5289:

A simpler solution could be to only allow outnumbered bonuses after a tick has passed? This would mean you would need to be in a map for 5-10 minutes before you could receive the +5 pip buff – effectively forcing people to “pick” a server and stick to it.

That would not work out well for active border hoppers though. The 3 week loyalty pip for transfer imo was more effective to stop bandwagons.

Storm Valkyrie.9471:

So my suggestion for this problem (coz the map hopping to get outnumbered buff is a problem)

You lost everyone at this point. What problem?

Since when does map hopping cause problems? If you know anything about this mode you should know how hard it is to get people off ebg to come defend important objectives in the borderlands and vice versa.

It makes the game play better if people are using all 4 maps. Why on earth would it make the game play worse? lol

You are obviously a pve player who came cause of the pip system. Pip system was designed for wvsw vets, not you newbies. Maybe invest some time playing the actual mode.

I invite everyone to look at your posting history. You are not a wvsw player, you have no voice here.

Storm Valkyrie.9471:

Blockhead Magee.3092:

For goodness sakes, will everyone stop worrying about pips!

There is NO problem!

The fact that “everyone” as you put it, is complaining suggests that there is a problem.

Regardless this isn’t just about the pips, it’s about getting killed in outnumbered fights without receiving benefit from the outnumbered buff.

I know you’re just quoting a previous post but this site is definitely not an accurate representation of the WvW playerbase. Definitely the vocal minority. It’s been my experience in-game that the majority of the players find the pip reward system perfectly acceptable.

Also being outnumbered already gives you the advantage of +50% increase in participation, +20% magic find, and +25% wXP. Also no armor repairs and your deaths don’t contribute to war score.

To quote Storm Valkyrie, THERE IS NO PROBLEM.

Why not just give everybody the diamond reward as soon as they enter a wvw map?

Carbi.6357:

Why not just give everybody the diamond reward as soon as they enter a wvw map?

Why not just add a ‘give me everything with no effort’ button.? Cut out all the pesky “effort”.