Guild Wars 2

I agree with everything stated in that foreign language thread.

I got through the first sentence then “Mein Deutsch” got a flat tire.

Ich auch habe nichts verstanden.. LOL

Mein Deutsch ist kaput.

I like it (courtesy of google translator)

Mode in the theory:

A “season” lasts three weeks

Week 1:
Meetings after the start table

[Game 1] -> 1.Tabelle + 2 Table 3 + Table
[Game 2] -> 4 Table 5 + Table + 6 Table
[Game 3] -> 7 Table 8 + Table 9 + Table

From Season 2 counts the number of points achieved total world from all 3 encounters as an indicator for a starting place (even across League)

Week 2:
Play all the winners of the matches, all 2 Placed, all 3 Placed against each other (table after the first week is crucial for the starting position)

[Game 4] -> Winner of Match 1 Winner + + Winner of Game 2 from Game 3
[Game 5] -> second + 1 second of game from Game 2 Game 3 + Second from
[Game 6] -> from third parties from Game 1 + 2 + third game from Game 3

Week 3:
Meetings consist of the points of the previous two league games as well as the world marks awarded for the 2 games (Table crucial for this)

[Game 7] 2 + 1.Tabelle Table 3 + Table
[Game 8] 4 Table 5 + Table + 6 Table
[Game 9] 7 Table 8 + Table 9 + Table

Final standings:
It will be added together from all the three weeks all league points and world points

Depending League Rank 1 increases + 2 + 3 and 7 on + 8 + 9 from.

The new season starts immediately after the old season in the same mode.

The start table and thus the meetings for week 1 arise solely from the world points previously obtained (even across League)

Mode in practice to illustrate

(Only the first week of real data are http://mos.millenium.org/matchups. All other data are purely fictitious and are for illustration because no valuation of the individual servers. Replaced Baruch To better illustrate the server Riverside, so that the current matchups can be used as a basis)
The practical example is for illustration only League 1

(Click on the left-hand flag – thank you)

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(My home server I have to illustrate in red)

Advantages of the SLS:

• at least one new enemy per day
• fight for every point
• Competition is promoted
• voltage until the last minute who to / descending
• Server cohesion is strengthened
• Each week a new start constellation, as the overall result of the world points is dependent on many factors, such as. Ferien-/Urlaubszeit/Feiertage/Semesterferien etc.

Drawbacks of the SLS

• the supposedly weakest and the strongest server perspective would hold your positions (for most servers, there would be a balancing idea, see further in the lower course)
• some players hungry for success could be based on “Idol” principle migrate

optional additional proposal for League 1 League Balance

Analogous to the EU league system, the mode for the U.S. server will transfer (details were still to be clarified, as there are currently 24 U.S. server). To enable the server such as. Square Vizunah not rush from victory to victory and have the system of still nothing, the 3 best-placed to qualify for the EU server “World Season” which runs parallel to the “regular season”. Since WvW is ultimately decided on the mass of players, would be the “Best Server” then decide how they want to use your resources Personnel to survive in the league and in the World League.

At this point I am by then and thank you for your attention. Serious bidders are welcome requests via PM. But I think the system speaks for itself. If it is exactly what you desire, it’s up to you to make this system Arena Net tasty ;-)

For Kodash – Spiffytool

Interesting idea though, this could actually work! The only problem I can find is what if there’s a bandwagon server with like 20 guild immigrations to the lowest league, how will they move up and out of the league to the mid or top one?

I took the liberty of (loosely) translating it from German to English. My English isn’t perfect so I might have mistranslated here and there but I hope it’s still better than google translate

Spiffytool.9370:

Hello Arena Net; Hello GW2 players; Hello fans of WvW

I am a passionate WvW player from the Server ‘Kodash’ and – like most of you – I have noticed that the spark has disappeared from the game because of the same old matchups and possibly the rating system. For us, this is the 10th week in a row playing against Elona and Jade. *annoying

Everybody has noticed this problem but Arena Net hasn’t tackled it yet.

Therefore, I would like to present to you my „WvW 2.0“: „Spiffytools Liga System“ -> SLS

SLS guarantess a new opponent every week as well as fights over each World point (“Weltpunkt”) and a lot of variation without generating unfair constellations.

At this point in time, there 27 EU Server. This induces 3 leagues with 9 server each. The first constellation would be the following. (current ranking taken from http:/mos.millenium.org/matchups)

league 1 (green)

1. Vizunah Square
2. Desolation
3. Seafarer’s Rest
4. Elona Reach
5. Jade Sea
6. Kodash
7. Piken Square
8. Baruch Bay
9. Augury Rock

league 2 (blue)

1. Riverside
2. Aurora Glade
3. Gandara
4.Far Shiverpeaks
5.Abaddon’s Mouth
6. Fort Ranik
7. Miller’s Sound
8. Drakkar Lake
9. Underworld

league 3 (red)

1. Ruins of Surmia
2. Dzagonur
3. Ring of Fire
4. Gunnar’s Hold
5. Arborstone
6. Whiteside Ridge
7. Blacktide
8. Fissure of Woe
9. Vabbi

Rules of the league:

• Duration of a Matchup stays the same (Friday to Friday)
• A Season lasts for 3 weeks with each server playing 3 games.
• After each game, each server gets league points as follows: 1st place -> 3 points; 2nd place -> 2 points; 3rd place 1 point
• Furthermore, the total of world points gained during the week(s) are taken into account.
• After a season, 3 servers go up a league and 3 servers go down a league.
• If two servers have the same amount of league points, the world points are taken into account.
• Should they even have the same amount of World points, the ratio of the placements is taken into account. After that a direct comparisson is made.

Mode

One Season lasts for 3 Weeks.

Week 1:
Matches according to starting table

[Game 1] -> 1st vs. 2nd vs 3rd
[Game 2] -> 4th vs. 5th vs 6th
[Game 3] -> 7th vs. 8th vs 9th

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beginning with Season 2, the total amount of world points from all 3 Games in the previous week will determine the starting table

Week 2:
The winners play the winners and so on.

[Game 4] -> 1st in Game 1 vs. 1st in Game 2 vs. 1st in Game 3
[Game 5] -> 2nd in Game 1 vs. 2nd in Game 2 vs. 2nd in Game 3
[Game 6] -> 3rd in Game 1 vs. 3rd in Game 2 vs. 3rd in Game 3

Week 3:
Matches according to league points gained in the first two games as well as the world points from the first two games.
(Translators Note: I assume the author suggest to make a new table ordering primarily by league points and secondarily by total world points)

[Game 7] -> 1st vs. 2nd vs 3rd
[Game 8] -> 4th vs. 5th vs 6th
[Game 9] -> 7th vs. 8th vs 9th

Final Table:
Order by league points and world points
Ranks 1,2,3 move up a leage, ranks 7,8,9 move down a league (unless they are in the top and bottom league respectively
The new Season starts right after Week 3 following the same rules and mode.
The starting table is solely defined by the total world points from the previous Season.

Example (German):

Some fantasy matchups.
(click on the links, please)

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http://up.picr.de/14382243lu.jpg

http://up.picr.de/14382244de.jpg

Advantages of SLS:

• at least one new opponent per week
• fight for every point
• encourages competitive play
• more suspense due to the possibility of moving up or down a league
• reinforces server community
• Different starting table every season as the amount of world points is very sensitive to server activity (ie Holidays, Exams)

Disadvantages of SLS

• the strongest and weakest servers will still remain in a static position
• some players who want to be on a winning server could move according to the „Götze Principle“

optional suggestion for balancing league 1

Apply SLS to both NA and EU servers individually (needs some tweaking to support 24 servers)
The 3 top servers from both NA and EU qualify for ‘World Season’ which is an additional matchup (being played at the same time as regular season).
Top servers would have to split their resources to part-take in both of these seasons at the same time.

For Kodash – Spiffytool

thank you for translating in english to ChroNoS.6978 & Limm.8401

Please we sud all support this, need some change xd

I like the ideas

also help here let him get heard give him some +1

Nice idea and I’m open for this. I’m afraid this will still never happen :/

Anet is just too ignorant to go with another system, they dont wanna admit they made mistakes.

i like it very much

But something have to be changed with the ranking.
We will see in few weeks what is with the new idea from ArenaNET. ^^

Spiffytool, this is what WvW needs, if Anet does not change how the WvW works idk what will become of it, right now its same 3 servers like it happen for you over past 9-10 weeks.

This is a +1 karma

Waves from Sweden

/Max

This is actually a great suggestion and it – or something like it – would make all sorts of matches much more meaningful.

Of course it would be more devastating to lose when it matters, but that just makes the wins sweeter!

Currently it looks like the current rating system is totally broken and not et al able to generate balanced matched anymore.

Now that the EU T1-T2 barrier got climbed once by Elona and SFR is down to T2, it looks so far as Elona is able to give Vizu a fight. And Vizu’s domination of T1 is not the result of Vizu turning into a superpower, but SFR and Deso went far below their former T1 niveau. It even looks like SFR is not even able to compete in T2.

This liga system proposed here can hardly give more unbalanced fights that the current system does.

This is what WvW needs – great idea!

Yeah I like! Thumbs up :-)

Until here, great thank you for your opinions

I do not say my system is perfect rather i want to start a WvW change process together with you.

If you wish to change something in WvW, it would therefore be advisable to wrote much more opinions. The voice of the WvW people could be the voice of ArenaNet.
It is up to you.

Thank you very much and have a good weekend.

Spiffytool