Guild Wars 2

You know? I honestly believed that next weeks’ update was going to be called Bloodlust in the Borderlands. We knew of 2 things coming in the next patch, a revamp of pre-existing PvE content, and the biggest update to WvW since… ever. I naively thought this would be THE WvW update.

Instead, Tequatl gets all the ink, figuratively speaking. One more sign that ANet’s crowd aren’t us.

The update page has 4 bullet points

• LFG Tool – admittedly more PvE focused, but still applicable to WvW, somewhat. Still this is 1 for PvE

• Ruins of Power in WvW – The first real, meaningful change to WvW that wasn’t just a fix.

• Bosses Updated – Tequatl et al. PvE all the way.

• Flame Ram Mastery – Not the most exciting, but still, it’s a WvW update.

So in short, it’s a 50/50 split on updates to PvE vs WvW (really sorry, PvP folks!), and STILL rehashed PvE content is a better message to market than NEW WvW.

We know WvWers are in the minority. ANet knows WvWers are in the minority. Now we know ANet knows.

disclaimer: I know not everyone is thrilled about the implications of the map change. That is not what this thread is about.

There are many PvE kiddos out there just waiting to farm achievements, gold and so on. It doesnt matter if its not really new as long as you tell them its new. But to do so you cant give them complicated patch logs…no…you give them large, colorful pictures with a shiny name of their (new) farming object and all is good.
WvW players on the other hand are able to just read about changes concerning them.
So i dont think Anet is choosing one over the other but addressing the different player types as needed. Just enjoy the new update and dont worry about page 2 ranking.

Klawlyt.6507:

• Ruins of Power in WvW – The first real, meaningful change to WvW that wasn’t just a fix.

Actually they are a replacement for the orb mechanic, so it’s kind of a fix.

Considering we don’t even get servers that can handle our side of the game, I’d say it’s easy to tell where the money is coming in from.

XRKUN.1782:

There are many PvE kiddos out there just waiting to farm achievements, gold and so on. It doesnt matter if its not really new as long as you tell them its new. But to do so you cant give them complicated patch logs…no…you give them large, colorful pictures with a shiny name of their (new) farming object and all is good.
WvW players on the other hand are able to just read about changes concerning them.
So i dont think Anet is choosing one over the other but addressing the different player types as needed. Just enjoy the new update and dont worry about page 2 ranking.

I can’t disagree with anything in there. But still I kinda thought part of the WvW changes and leagues were to drum up some more interest in WvW. I guess it’s more like throwing a bone to those of us who already play.

“Well, I guess they can have 1 of our 39 updates this year…”

Lord Kuru.3685:

Klawlyt.6507:

• Ruins of Power in WvW – The first real, meaningful change to WvW that wasn’t just a fix.

Actually they are a replacement for the orb mechanic, so it’s kind of a fix.

Rehash of an already proven broken mechanic.

Zephyrus.9680:

Lord Kuru.3685:

Klawlyt.6507:

• Ruins of Power in WvW – The first real, meaningful change to WvW that wasn’t just a fix.

Actually they are a replacement for the orb mechanic, so it’s kind of a fix.

Rehash of an already proven broken mechanic.

Look, I know! I’m not crazy about the re implementation of the buff itself, but that’s not the point of this thread. there are enough of those already.

While the buff isn’t new, there are still the actual map modifications. Those are honest-to-god additions, especially compared to boss behavior changes. I’m not here to discuss the quality of the changes, merely the fact that even when WvW gets more quantity than PvE, PvE still gets the headline.

What’s Tequatl?

Suprised by Tequatl’s Headline Grab?

No, PvE will always get the headline, its the most played part of GW2, around 70% play PvE, a lot of those play nothing else…

PvP has 10-15% and WvW 30-40%, the cross over is players who play all 3 or 2/3.

I really couldnt care less if WvW updates are headline news or not. As long as the yare good updates, it really makes 0 difference.

The event is centered around Tequatl because he’s the next step in the LS, not because PvE is more important. I don’t think they can force people to play WvW for a story line. :P

seriously? you need to grumble over such minor things?

Tellerion.8102:

What’s Tequatl?

According to the gw2 homepage it’s a dinossaur

No. Not surprised. Popularity of GW2 gamemodes are ranked like this:

1. PvE
2. WvW
3. PvP

PvE will almost always be the headline with an occasional one for WvW or PvP during special events. I expect WvW leagues will get the headline for the next update.

The reason I log in every night is to run with an orr Dynamic Events Zerg who also does Karka every night, and even they’re not excited by the Sunless overhaul (neither am I). So I agree, it doesn’t make sense for it to be a “top billing” Headliner.

…then again… I’d say the same thing about Conquest Mode in WvW.
Who are you guys hoping to attract to WvW with this??

Seriously, I wanna know… What hokey pokey demographic is this aimed at?
(besides Stealth Stomping thieves who were already more than WELL REPRESENTED)

Klawlyt.6507:

You know? I honestly believed that next weeks’ update was going to be called Bloodlust in the Borderlands. We knew of 2 things coming in the next patch, a revamp of pre-existing PvE content, and the biggest update to WvW since… ever. I naively thought this would be THE WvW update.

Instead, Tequatl gets all the ink, figuratively speaking. One more sign that ANet’s crowd aren’t us.

The update page has 4 bullet points

• LFG Tool – admittedly more PvE focused, but still applicable to WvW, somewhat. Still this is 1 for PvE

• Ruins of Power in WvW – The first real, meaningful change to WvW that wasn’t just a fix.

• Bosses Updated – Tequatl et al. PvE all the way.

• Flame Ram Mastery – Not the most exciting, but still, it’s a WvW update.

So in short, it’s a 50/50 split on updates to PvE vs WvW (really sorry, PvP folks!), and STILL rehashed PvE content is a better message to market than NEW WvW.

We know WvWers are in the minority. ANet knows WvWers are in the minority. Now we know ANet knows.

disclaimer: I know not everyone is thrilled about the implications of the map change. That is not what this thread is about.

I think you may be fishing for things to be depressed about as concerning WvW. What they title their patches is hardly somethin to lose sleep over =) (other things though…)

And to the guy above, conquest mode WvW is great fun for lots of us. Fun is subjective!

Is the Grub getting updated?

keeping the pve players happy is what keeps gw2 going

styx.7294:

I think you may be fishing for things to be depressed about as concerning WvW. What they title their patches is hardly somethin to lose sleep over =) (other things though…)

I’m really not. I really really want to believe that ANet is committed to WvW, but signs keep pointing the other way. Like for example, this came out today…

Klawlyt.6507:

styx.7294:

I think you may be fishing for things to be depressed about as concerning WvW. What they title their patches is hardly somethin to lose sleep over =) (other things though…)

I’m really not. I really really want to believe that ANet is committed to WvW, but signs keep pointing the other way. Like for example, this came out today…

I AM POSTING A VIDEO THAT HAS GOTTEN OTHERS BANNED FROM THE FORUMS. I WILL ALSO GET BANNED FOR POSTING THIS!

Oh, nice, look at that. I’m over this game… now.

I don’t mind if PvE gets the headline, it usually does. But, I was mainly a pve’er before I started really getting into wvw, so I guess it doesn’t really make any difference to me. I wish WvW had more good updates etc but I do understand that majority of the playerbase is not in WvW. If anything WvW made pvp more palatable for me personally, I just think it’s a matter of making it look interesting to other pve’ers who have not tried it yet. I have no idea how to go about doing that other than word of mouth to friends or guildies.

Personally I’ve come to enjoy the pvp a lot more than the “pvdoor” as it’s called, and I’m a little worried about what this update will mean for people like me who like to do a lot of roaming (in small groups or solo). But I guess only time will tell.

Yeah, after seeing the leaked stuff I’ll be moving on shortly.

I played Guild Wars 2 and WvW for small group game play and dueling(Don’t ask me how I ended up on JQ). I didn’t give a rats kitten for sPvP because its kitten. With this showing Anet will not support how the players wish to play the game but are actively destroying it is of great detriment to my opinion of them.

The WvW update being burried under PvE crap is just more evidence they don’t care about WvW.

style.6173:

No. Not surprised. Popularity of GW2 gamemodes are ranked like this:

1. PvE
2. WvW
3. PvP

PvE will almost always be the headline with an occasional one for WvW or PvP during special events. I expect WvW leagues will get the headline for the next update.

Till 4-5 months ago anet wanted GW2 to be esport so I think the priority was sPvP > PvE > WvW but that ship hit a iceberg and sank killing most spvp teams. Now anet wants to just milk this game I think hence the two week updates for the PvE so it’s PvE > sPvp > wvw. Wvw has never received any real resources to make it great. GvG could keep this game going for years (until camelot etc) if anet would get away from the cheap fast content and invested time into wvw but wvw doesn’t make them money cuz wvwers don’t care about latest skin etc. They play for fights/fun so this will never happen and this game will slowly die.

Meglobob.8620:

Suprised by Tequatl’s Headline Grab?

No, PvE will always get the headline, its the most played part of GW2, around 70% play PvE, a lot of those play nothing else…

PvP has 10-15% and WvW 30-40%, the cross over is players who play all 3 or 2/3.

I’d be suprised if spvp is even that much.

How dare they, the title should have been “Bloodlust in the Borderlands as the Tequatl rises and Trahearne laughs at sPvPers” This way all crowds are represented

Lord Kuru.3685:

Klawlyt.6507:

• Ruins of Power in WvW – The first real, meaningful change to WvW that wasn’t just a fix.

Actually they are a replacement for the orb mechanic, so it’s kind of a fix.

It’s hardly a fix. The only thing bloodlust shares with the orb is a buff. Achieving the buff is completely different. The effects of the buff is too. Not to mention the modification of the map.