Guild Wars 2

I heard TW is moving to DB.
Is this the fall of TC?

Who even are you? Why do you exit?

TW moves quite often typically to bolster a non-dominant server and get into more fights. It isn’t like them to move to a stronger server.

Yes. TW is leaving TC and joining… TC. It’ll be a strange process with a lot of psychedelic drugs and out of body experiences, but it’ll certainly make for a lot of good stories for them to tell. There might even be a weird naked hippie or two. And drums. Lots of drums.

Phantom.8130:

Yes. TW is leaving TC and joining… TC. It’ll be a strange process with a lot of psychedelic drugs and out of body experiences, but it’ll certainly make for a lot of good stories for them to tell. There might even be a weird naked hippie or two. And drums. Lots of drums.

Drums are pointless…….needs more cowbell……………

Saw TW streaming last Thursday.

Amazing group of about 20 players, mostly Dragon hunters with

one Tempest, a war, a Herald, a Mesmer and some others

that could stood under JQ’s fire from defenders on the wall

above the SMC inner gate and repeated withstood attacks from JQ’s

circling from the right side through the SMC inner gate portal

without losing much health or have a downed player,

with most of players on constant boons and never below 75% health,

and after wearing down JQ’s supply and broke through the gate,

it took SMC from JQ all for about 10 minutes of play.

The Driver already commanded over 11 hours of the12 hour stream-a-thon,

And his disposition shown on the lower left corner of window was

a sharp contrast of the happy, energetic animations of the characters on screen

surrounded by flashing of lights and trails of rainbow sparkles of The Bifrost.

He was complete without happiness on his face nor in his voice,

no thrill of victory and no emotion of any kind after wiping JQ repeatly

and taking SMC.

He could not wait for the 12th hours to come

to log out and quit streaming

and on time

he quit.

tym.3791:

Phantom.8130:

Yes. TW is leaving TC and joining… TC. It’ll be a strange process with a lot of psychedelic drugs and out of body experiences, but it’ll certainly make for a lot of good stories for them to tell. There might even be a weird naked hippie or two. And drums. Lots of drums.

Drums are pointless…….needs more cowbell……………

How about a compromise of a hippie drum circle, and cowbells?

TWL is moving to TC, TW dods is moving to Mag, the rest of TW are moving to DB, there was already 1 on DB last night to scout. OnSL is moving to Mag.

Why is nobody moving to Ebay or DH?…you want a challenge?…move here and help us against the blobbage.
Its actually kinda fun. We were literally under constant siege at garrison from 10:15pm-12:30a.m. reset night fighting off 2 sbi zergs on both north and south fronts with an sf zerg hitting the ne or nw walls and held them off the entire night until everyone went to bed. Ultimately we will lose the matchup but those moments are why I still play the game.
So, if you wanna make a difference, come to the forgotten servers of T4, one or two new guilds can literally make a huge impact.

Thank you,
-this has been a public service announcement from the Justice League
-Greenland Turn

Xenesis.6389:

TWL is moving to TC, TW dods is moving to Mag, the rest of TW are moving to DB, there was already 1 on DB last night to scout. OnSL is moving to Mag.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDoYzm4Unlk

There goes the neighborhood!!!

Saw TW streaming last Thursday.

Amazing group of about 20 players, mostly Dragon hunters with

one Tempest, a war, a Herald, a Mesmer and some others

that could stood under JQ’s fire from defenders on the wall

above the SMC inner gate and repeated withstood attacks from JQ’s

circling from the right side through the SMC inner gate portal

without losing much health or have a downed player,

with most of players on constant boons and never below 75% health,

and after wearing down JQ’s supply and broke through the gate,

it took SMC from JQ all for about 10 minutes of play.

The Driver already commanded over 11 hours of the12 hour stream-a-thon,

And his disposition shown on the lower left corner of window was

a sharp contrast of the happy, energetic animations of the characters on screen

surrounded by flashing of lights and trails of rainbow sparkles of The Bifrost.

He was complete without happiness on his face nor in his voice,

no thrill of victory and no emotion of any kind after wiping JQ repeatly

and taking SMC.

He could not wait for the 12th hours to come

to log out and quit streaming

and on time

he quit.

Yeah TW is heading to Mag from what I hear

Dods is already scouting it for them

i’m tired of bullkittens! and drama! plz stahp!
yes we are moving to DB. “confirm” NO JOKE! #trustme can you see? we already have at least 1-2more TW tag roaming last-night @mag server! “you can see it by youre self” DUH! were in process of moving tho so we need MORE GOLD! #sendmoregold to indo

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday.
…snip…

Did you need to create 2 accounts to copy and pasted how TW can beat unorganized zergs?

We may have been clones that think alike but

we are not physically the same

nor even on the same continent from what I could tell.

Yes, no, who cares. Just wish them good luck and pat on the back. If they aren’t enjoying their play time on TC, then they should move. It’ll be interesting to see how linking works at the end of the month. Hopefully it throws a monkey wrench in the match ups, spice things up a bit, that kind of thing.

Coyote.7031:

Yes, no, who cares. Just wish them good luck and pat on the back. If they aren’t enjoying their play time on TC, then they should move. It’ll be interesting to see how linking works at the end of the month. Hopefully it throws a monkey wrench in the match ups, spice things up a bit, that kind of thing.

Well they’ll be going to DR if Mag is still full, lol. Then if the link changes, there goes another transfer.

Loosmaster.8263:

Well they’ll be going to DR if Mag is still full, lol. Then if the link changes, there goes another transfer.

Yeah that’s why I think it’s a bit weird mass transfer right now and not wait to see how linking lines up, but meh. If anything it might be a fun gamble right?

Someone needs to take map chat screen grabs of first interactions with the natives

Good riddance, imho.

Seems like an odd move, will only unbalance tier 1 further.

If they are an NA guild they would be better off moving to JQ.

We have poor NA coverage and good SEA coverage.

They could move us back into T1 and find plenty of outnumbered fights.

Our map chat said their guild asked us for gold to move to JQ. Given they aren’t moving here I suspect our server didn’t pay (which is fair enough given they are server hoppers).

How do you plan on smuggling people onto a locked server?

Xenesis.6389:

How do you plan on smuggling people onto a locked server?

Any server can unlock themselves if they choose to not play.

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

Xenesis.6389:

How do you plan on smuggling people onto a locked server?

Any server can unlock themselves if they choose to not play.

That takes weeks, mags will have paid their transfers by then.

Xenesis.6389:

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

Xenesis.6389:

How do you plan on smuggling people onto a locked server?

Any server can unlock themselves if they choose to not play.

That takes weeks, mags will have paid their transfers by then.

I’d rather wait for a better PvP situation than move quickly and get a PvD scenario.

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday. Amazing group of about 20 players <snip>

The days of great large skill groups is definitely over if the current TW is amazing. I suppose a group can only get as good as their competition allows but they would get destroyed by the old school GvG groups. Remember the days of Mag GvG or guilds like Agg? Oh the Golden era what a wonder it was.

Straegen.2938:

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday. Amazing group of about 20 players <snip>

The days of great large skill groups is definitely over if the current TW is amazing. I suppose a group can only get as good as their competition allows but they would get destroyed by the old school GvG groups. Remember the days of Mag GvG or guilds like Agg? Oh the Golden era what a wonder it was.

Different times/different metas. Agreed about lack of competition though, sadly.

Straegen.2938:

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday. Amazing group of about 20 players <snip>

The days of great large skill groups is definitely over if the current TW is amazing. I suppose a group can only get as good as their competition allows but they would get destroyed by the old school GvG groups. Remember the days of Mag GvG or guilds like Agg? Oh the Golden era what a wonder it was.

Remember when the game’s combat didn’t mostly revolve around passive effects and absurdly high defensive-ability uptime?

DeceiverX.8361:

Remember when the game’s combat didn’t mostly revolve around passive effects and absurdly high defensive-ability uptime?

Hammer trains weren’t the best answer or even a particularly good one but it was significantly better than this meta. I have completely stopped GvG and roam pretty much all the time… even that is on a significant decline as most of the quality players seem to have left.

DeceiverX.8361:

Straegen.2938:

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday. Amazing group of about 20 players <snip>

The days of great large skill groups is definitely over if the current TW is amazing. I suppose a group can only get as good as their competition allows but they would get destroyed by the old school GvG groups. Remember the days of Mag GvG or guilds like Agg? Oh the Golden era what a wonder it was.

Remember when the game’s combat didn’t mostly revolve around passive effects and absurdly high defensive-ability uptime?

Yep, back in the days when they were concerned about vigor up-time. So much so they eventually nerfed it down to 50% from 100%.

dzeRnumbrd.6129:

Seems like an odd move, will only unbalance tier 1 further.

If they are an NA guild they would be better off moving to JQ.

We have poor NA coverage and good SEA coverage.

They could move us back into T1 and find plenty of outnumbered fights.

Our map chat said their guild asked us for gold to move to JQ. Given they aren’t moving here I suspect our server didn’t pay (which is fair enough given they are server hoppers).

Well map chat would be incorrect. We’re kinda waiting to open again….

Straegen.2938:

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday. Amazing group of about 20 players <snip>

The days of great large skill groups is definitely over if the current TW is amazing. I suppose a group can only get as good as their competition allows but they would get destroyed by the old school GvG groups. Remember the days of Mag GvG or guilds like Agg? Oh the Golden era what a wonder it was.

What was great about the good ole days was that no matter what server you were on, you had your premier guild or two that could hang with the best. This made wvw diverse and a more fun environment. Now all these “zerg busting” wannabes choose to all pile on one server then complain about no fights. Sounds like they need their crutch fellow guilds these days instead of holding their own.

DeWolfe.2174:

Well map chat would be incorrect. We’re kinda waiting to open again….

Interesting, would it be faster if we organised a proper blackout?

Yo, can you guys stop breaking up my meme?

jesus..

RodOfDeath.5247:

Straegen.2938:

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday. Amazing group of about 20 players <snip>

The days of great large skill groups is definitely over if the current TW is amazing. I suppose a group can only get as good as their competition allows but they would get destroyed by the old school GvG groups. Remember the days of Mag GvG or guilds like Agg? Oh the Golden era what a wonder it was.

What was great about the good ole days was that no matter what server you were on, you had your premier guild or two that could hang with the best. This made wvw diverse and a more fun environment. Now all these “zerg busting” wannabes choose to all pile on one server then complain about no fights. Sounds like they need their crutch fellow guilds these days instead of holding their own.

I’m stuck on one of those servers that shall not be named and I don’t even play enough to warrant paying to move again. The unnecessary kittenhugging and ego trips are entertaining in their own right but it’s created such a lame fighting environment and I had no idea how bad it was lol. I’m pretty sure the bandwagon is going to break down yet again after re-links.

Was fun to have them, if they are leaving … hope they find the fights they are looking for. Where ever you guys land, I’m sure we’ll see you in the near future. Looking forward to fighting ya (again)!

Thanks for those tagging up and spending some TLC on providing tips and teaching those around them.

gennyt.3428:

RodOfDeath.5247:

Straegen.2938:

vana.5467:

Saw TW streaming last Thursday. Amazing group of about 20 players <snip>

The days of great large skill groups is definitely over if the current TW is amazing. I suppose a group can only get as good as their competition allows but they would get destroyed by the old school GvG groups. Remember the days of Mag GvG or guilds like Agg? Oh the Golden era what a wonder it was.

What was great about the good ole days was that no matter what server you were on, you had your premier guild or two that could hang with the best. This made wvw diverse and a more fun environment. Now all these “zerg busting” wannabes choose to all pile on one server then complain about no fights. Sounds like they need their crutch fellow guilds these days instead of holding their own.

I’m stuck on one of those servers that shall not be named and I don’t even play enough to warrant paying to move again. The unnecessary kittenhugging and ego trips are entertaining in their own right but it’s created such a lame fighting environment and I had no idea how bad it was lol. I’m pretty sure the bandwagon is going to break down yet again after re-links.

Same here, on ebay and I think about leaving but what’s the use. Anet will just meddle with server linking and screw it up again. Not giving these guys any gem purchases and if I did it would be gold-free gems trade.

RodOfDeath.5247:

Anet will just meddle with server linking and screw it up again.

^^^Seriously.^^^

Between the linkings, glicko manipulation, tier manipulation and “alliance” transfers, what’s the point anymore.

To review:

We’ve had lag issues in WvW for YEARS. We’ve heard repeatedly a fix is coming or being worked on.

WvW skills are STILL not separated from PvE, and we’re stuck in literal condi hell as a result. Most everyone is kitten ing on condi now, may the biggest blob of condi win.

And yet, for some reason or another, we’re getting a repair hammer beta and portable cannons, despite that siege health has been increased.

We’ve had people in low pop servers gripe about overnight capping (f f s it’s a server time zone issue, not a gamewide issue), asking for forced population redistribution (which would screw over people that CHOSE to leave said dead servers to ones with solid cores and more action), and various tweaks that NONE of the higher pop servers want, or need.

All these add-ons and tweaks get us further and further away from what WvW was in the beginning, when way more people played. I get that we are 4 years into the game now, and people move on to other games. But I’ve never seen a game mode so twisted and contorted from it’s original concept that it literally drives people to either taking long breaks or leaving entirely.

It’s starting to feel like DBL days again, but this time, it just artificially appears to seem like there are more people playing, solely due to the linkings.

Skynet.7201:

It’s starting to feel like DBL days again, but this time, it just artificially appears to seem like there are more people playing, solely due to the linkings.

Which is literally all merges ever do.

Look to pretty much every game that’s merged servers as a result of a bleeding population, and in time it ends up the same as before. Why? Because people leave for reasons, and those reasons aren’t because there aren’t enough people playing when the game is in its youth.

Population imbalance and low participation are symptoms of the bigger problem of a lack of fun and engaging gameplay due to the repeated failure and ineptitude of the profession balance team, and the substantial neglect WvW has seen for a majority of GW2’s career. We’re seeing attempts to improve the format, though I think many of the new implementations fail to recognize the specific needs of the format as a whole, are not true fixes to the underlying problems plaguing the format, and no fix to the game mode can bring people in if the combat and profession design mechanics are simply just not fun and poorly-designed.

Akkeros.1675:

Why is nobody moving to Ebay or DH?…you want a challenge?…move here and help us against the blobbage.
Its actually kinda fun. We were literally under constant siege at garrison from 10:15pm-12:30a.m. reset night fighting off 2 sbi zergs on both north and south fronts with an sf zerg hitting the ne or nw walls and held them off the entire night until everyone went to bed. Ultimately we will lose the matchup but those moments are why I still play the game.
So, if you wanna make a difference, come to the forgotten servers of T4, one or two new guilds can literally make a huge impact.

Thank you,
-this has been a public service announcement from the Justice League
-Greenland Turn

that’s because the quality of teammates/opponents drops as you go down tiers.

duhoh.3726:

Akkeros.1675:

Why is nobody moving to Ebay or DH?…you want a challenge?…move here and help us against the blobbage.
Its actually kinda fun. We were literally under constant siege at garrison from 10:15pm-12:30a.m. reset night fighting off 2 sbi zergs on both north and south fronts with an sf zerg hitting the ne or nw walls and held them off the entire night until everyone went to bed. Ultimately we will lose the matchup but those moments are why I still play the game.
So, if you wanna make a difference, come to the forgotten servers of T4, one or two new guilds can literally make a huge impact.

Thank you,
-this has been a public service announcement from the Justice League
-Greenland Turn

that’s because the quality of teammates/opponents drops as you go down tiers.

There are talented players in the lower tiers. The problem is there’s not much population, so you can’t fill up the map, so you get steamrolled 24/7.

A lot of players eventually get sick of it and pay the ransom in gems to escape the T4 slum and move to a tier that actually has competition, not just a perpetual beatdown. This exacerbates the problem since the population drops even more.

Really, no one in their right mind should want to move to the SF or DH server groups unless you enjoy futility, being spawn-camped, and spending most of your time trying to recapture your own keep with the handful of other diehards that still haven’t payed the ransom to move to a better server.

There may be good individual players in lower tiers, but they lack good commanders and leaders to bring their server up. Every server that wants to survive and grow needs at least 1 ‘celebrity commander’ that can rally the server. I’ve yet to see something like that in the lower tiers except for SBI, cause they’re not really T4, considering they have T2 coverage.

There are 2 types of players ones that want a challenge and others that want easy wins. both scenarios do not exist in lower tiers. There are not challenging fights and there are no easy wins. Thus the players that want to be challenged leave to fight better players, and the players that want easy wins leave to go someplace where they can blob.

Don’t try to bring up that well SBI would give challenging fights to me becasue as a player on Mag I will tell you they don’kittens just that your server has no one.

I hate to bring up the DH history of when it was the latest bandwagon server that had the population to go to t3 but got steam rolled by mag. when you never have to fight anyone good in lower tiers you dont get better as players and a server. then you pair that with players that just bandwagon on DH from lower tiers so they could get easy wins ktraining T4-T6 you get an implosion.

May the stars guide you.

Typically the lower tiers have better individual players. Actually, the best of the best that I’ve seen have been on lower tiers.

Mag used to have some good players. These days, most of Mag gets carried by 10v1 gank squads and FoTM overpowered builds. The amount of spawn camp aggression and ganks is worse than what you find in a T1 server when it’s ticking 400. Most of them claim skill, despite having been terrible players on other servers before bandwagoning to the trolly gank “skilled” server once hearing of how amazing they were in fighting lol. Mag’s typically the laughing stock of other servers because their players are just so astronomically bad and try so hard it’s more funny than anything.

Their KDR isn’t from winning on an even turf. You bring equal numbers and the 10-man condi mesmer gank squad guilds and trashy thieves that spam 3 or play traps either run away at the sight of a potential threat, get absolutely melted because they actually just suck, or they call more to make it 20v10 for no reason other than precious KDR.

I got better small-scale in T7.

am I the only TC player worried that with the exodus the guilds, we are going to drop to T2 or T3?

We can’t even compete in T1 with BG and DB now. We even lost to JQ the last match up.

EremiteAngel.9765:

am I the only TC player worried that with the exodus the guilds, we are going to drop to T2 or T3?

We can’t even compete in T1 with BG and DB now. We even lost to JQ the last match up.

The goal of WvW should be to have fun. If you already can’t compete with BG and DB, then dropping to T2 to face more favorable competition would be a good thing. Tier doesn’t matter because at the end of the day it has nothing to do with skill or entertainment. High pop = win, low pop = lose. Facing servers with similar pop should be the goal.

TC just got rocked on reset in T2. Thought they’d be tougher.Maybe they’ll wake up tomorrow.

Welcome to glicko free fall, TC. Hope you can out perform what glicko thinks you should be able to do, or you’re in for a full filled few weeks of bleeding glicko.

Good. Should bolster some numbers and maybe I’ll stop seeing outnumbered frequently.