Guild Wars 2

Ok so.. for the last month, TC has been in Tier 2 and we have been losing because of very low population.

Last week we only had a 5.3% chance of tier 1 and we got it anyway.

There was a rumor that Anet stepped in and manually placed us in tier 1…

Okay.. it was only for a week and everyone accepted it.

For an entire week we have been outmanned on every map.. 90% of our people didnt even play and we lost almost every skirmish.. sometimes by a HUGE margin

usually something like

Mag 8,000
BG 6000
TC 1200

Now.. With that said.. I looked up the predicted rankings for tonights reset

Tier 2 66.9 %
Tier 1 26.1 %
Tier 3 7.0 %

HOW the heck did we move up?

How do we now have a 26.1% chance for tier 1?????

Was our glicko adjusted????

It wasn’t, you got rolled into T1 by dumb luck and gained glicko points from maguuma and blackgate by virtue of the scoring system.

With the scoring changed to 5-4-3, maguuma only has 41% more points than tarnished coast. As such, they lost glicko points to a server they otherwise blew out. Had the scoring remained at 2-1-1, maguuma would have had 55% more points than TC, and black gate 24% more.

TC would not have gained the 30 glicko points they gained, but the newest scoring system has a mathematical quirk where it will make the same match up more likely each week.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Please-don-t-change-scoring-to-5-4-3

I don’t even know how TC is considered Full. When I played them they didn’t seem to have as many people as JQ, Mag, or BG.

It just seemed odd TC was marked full and closed and BG opened. But maybe they gained people and are fair weathering.

nope TC is dead.. we lost a ton of people and even on reset, we are lucky to que 2 maps. Most of the time.. we only Que EB. Some nights we dont even have a team on our home BL because we dont even have enough to que EB.

This week we have been outmanned so badly, but yet again the outmanned buff is broken and almost never pops.

We would have 20-30 max on a map while both BG and MAG would have 2 groups of 60+ fighting against us and we would never get the outmanned buff, not that it would have saved us.. just saying its still broken

If we get Tier 1 again tonight, i may be leaving for WoW again or transfering to a mag or something.. i cant stand playing on TC anymore with this BS happening, yet Anet says everythings working as intended.

TC is dead.. the game is dying, devs leaving left and right… and WvW will never get fixed… hasnt been yet and when you ask you get the same BS answers as above.

Hesacon.8735:

It wasn’t, you got rolled into T1 by dumb luck and gained glicko points from maguuma and blackgate by virtue of the scoring system.

With the scoring changed to 5-4-3, maguuma only has 41% more points than tarnished coast. As such, they lost glicko points to a server they otherwise blew out. Had the scoring remained at 2-1-1, maguuma would have had 55% more points than TC, and black gate 24% more.

TC would not have gained the 30 glicko points they gained, but the newest scoring system has a mathematical quirk where it will make the same match up more likely each week.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Please-don-t-change-scoring-to-5-4-3

so… you are saying if we dont even play at all.. I mean totally quit… we will be the top server in a few weeks?

This makes NO sense.. we dont even have enough people to que a map… and yet they open BG and mag both for more xfers… yet TC is locked, doesnt play, loses by scores of 8000 to less than 1000 and we GAIN glicko?

Seriously.. you cant tell me that the programmers are THAT bad at math

Did it ever occur to you that scores are not the most reliable method of understanding why a server has a certain status? Server status is calculated by a combination of population and activity, it has nothing to do with your servers performance or score, those things determine your matchups.

There are many players who will run closed raids and do not care about scores or defending and just want to get fights, they will contribute to a servers population and activity, but not to scores. Simply looking at scores gives you a vague idea of what is actually going on so stop basing everything on it.

trueanimus.4085:

nope TC is dead.. we lost a ton of people and even on reset, we are lucky to que 2 maps. Most of the time.. we only Que EB. Some nights we dont even have a team on our home BL because we dont even have enough to que EB.

This week we have been outmanned so badly, but yet again the outmanned buff is broken and almost never pops.

We would have 20-30 max on a map while both BG and MAG would have 2 groups of 60+ fighting against us and we would never get the outmanned buff, not that it would have saved us.. just saying its still broken

If we get Tier 1 again tonight, i may be leaving for WoW again or transfering to a mag or something.. i cant stand playing on TC anymore with this BS happening, yet Anet says everythings working as intended.

TC is dead.. the game is dying, devs leaving left and right… and WvW will never get fixed… hasnt been yet and when you ask you get the same BS answers as above.

I’d probably move on as you will be happier with your gaming experience. I’m down to maybe once a week with wvw, if that, and spending my money elsewhere with a MEGA better experience.

You’re suppose to enjoy gaming, not be frustrated.

People going into statistics, percentages, transfer rates, etc etc etc makes zero sense to me. This is suppose to be your free time for enjoyment from work and life and people are turning it into a mathematics and debate class. Anet should be the one correcting their design, not the players. You build/install it, the responsibility is yours to correct. Show some accountability, which you won’t see here so players should stop asking.

Just move on……

trueanimus.4085:

Hesacon.8735:

It wasn’t, you got rolled into T1 by dumb luck and gained glicko points from maguuma and blackgate by virtue of the scoring system.

With the scoring changed to 5-4-3, maguuma only has 41% more points than tarnished coast. As such, they lost glicko points to a server they otherwise blew out. Had the scoring remained at 2-1-1, maguuma would have had 55% more points than TC, and black gate 24% more.

TC would not have gained the 30 glicko points they gained, but the newest scoring system has a mathematical quirk where it will make the same match up more likely each week.

https://forum-en.gw2archive.eu/forum/game/wuv/Please-don-t-change-scoring-to-5-4-3

so… you are saying if we dont even play at all.. I mean totally quit… we will be the top server in a few weeks?

This makes NO sense.. we dont even have enough people to que a map… and yet they open BG and mag both for more xfers… yet TC is locked, doesnt play, loses by scores of 8000 to less than 1000 and we GAIN glicko?

Seriously.. you cant tell me that the programmers are THAT bad at math

http://mos.millenium.org/na/matchups

TC gained 36 glicko points this week. It doesn’t help that JQ got steamrolled in T2, which as someone on SoS surprised me since the last time we played it went the other way around.

But yes, TC lost hard and gained glicko because of how the skirmish scoring works and the change from 2-1-1 to 5-4-3 exacerbated the problem for reasons discussed in the thread I linked.