Guild Wars 2

you created such a mess its not even

edit – this was suppose to say ‘not even fun’ but hit post when seeing red last night.

oh, also your own people spawn camping with the stacked server.

WT*!

edited for lang.

Suddenly, when it gets to tier two, Wagon brand has issues with server stacking.
Next, say something about nightcappers

Um what happened now? Maybe you want to add some details in that…epic rant?
Also why is anet or anyone else supposed to stop people from transferring servers, people are free to go wherever they want.

And lol if someone with an anet tag was spawn camping, that’s just…wow…hope you took a screenshot

People are upset that Tarnished Coast has received an influx of guilds and players from Jade Quarry. It’s at a point now that during EU and SEA, TC has more players online than DB and FA combined.

The new map need a lot of people to work…. And you have more chance to see more people on top server…. Then people go where the action is….
The new map is unplayable with few players (too big, wp issue, etc).

Just curious which guilds went to TC?

donkey.1653:

you created such a mess its not even

What? They actually set population limits too low when they changed the calculation months ago.

morrolan.9608:

donkey.1653:

you created such a mess its not even

What? They actually set population limits too low when they changed the calculation months ago.

But obviously they silently relaxed it to stop the forum-cry’s about full-server, or do you see any full server anymore? But anyway, as it was likely a moving average, it was never able to hinder over stacking transfers, that happen within a day.

Lol, I will continue to do what I want and t3 your ebg
keeps because of the current double teaming from fa and db. Also I might add that db will back stab fa which is funny.

LetoII.3782:

Suddenly, when it gets to tier two, Wagon brand has issues with server stacking.
Next, say something about nightcappers

This isn’t about so call ‘nightcapping’ or what i call “they are playing without me”

i dont think nigthcapping is an issue if its a legitimate timezone playing. That would be like complaining about EU capping or that someone was on at a different timezone.

Its about allowing people to manipulate the system and scoring through stacking a server for the purpose of stacking a server.

Dayra.7405:

morrolan.9608:

donkey.1653:

you created such a mess its not even

What? They actually set population limits too low when they changed the calculation months ago.

But obviously they silently relaxed it to stop the forum-cry’s about full-server, o

No its just evidence of players leaving the game.

X T D.6458:

Also why is anet or anyone else supposed to stop people from transferring servers, people are free to go wherever they want.

It isn’t free
Which is part of the problem

donkey.1653:

you let us create such a mess its not even

FTFY

jason.9548:

Lol, I will continue to do what I want and t3 your ebg
keeps because of the current double teaming from fa and db. Also I might add that db will back stab fa which is funny.

There is actually someone who still cares in our matchup. It seems to me everyone is bored out of their minds.

Good to see. It’s like 2013 again. So, the game is not dead, just mostly dead.

Even with the extra guilds and players coming to TC, they still are not doing as good as they used to do. Why? They forgot to how to fight and run from every fight TC unless it is near siege. They PPT on BL’s that have no others on, it is sad how WvW has turned out. PPT can only get you so far…..

I hope TC gets to T1, then we can see how 2 siege humping server fight OR NOT.

The guilds I have seen from JQ are KAZO and KILL so far and I am sure there are more.

Jayne.9251:

donkey.1653:

you let us create such a mess its not even

FTFY

LOL, wvw players have too much freedom.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Even with the extra guilds and players coming to TC, they still are not doing as good as they used to do. Why? They forgot to how to fight and run from every fight TC unless it is near siege. They PPT on BL’s that have no others on, it is sad how WvW has turned out. PPT can only get you so far…..

I hope TC gets to T1, then we can see how 2 siege humping server fight OR NOT.

The guilds I have seen from JQ are KAZO and KILL so far and I am sure there are more.

I saw more new guilds than that, its just sad that TC has to resort to buying guilds to even stay in T2. Until they leave, T2 will not be about skill just blobbing and queuing the maps. Boring…

jason.9548:

Lol, I will continue to do what I want and t3 your ebg
keeps because of the current double teaming from fa and db. Also I might add that db will back stab fa which is funny.

So you are a transfer from T1? So why stack on T2 and ruin another tier? Obviously something isn’t right in T1 or you would of stayed. Just curious, would like to hear first hand.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Even with the extra guilds and players coming to TC, they still are not doing as good as they used to do. Why? They forgot how to fight

Joke’s on you TC never knew how to fight.
You’re losing to baddies, what does that make you? hmm? HMMMM?

LetoII.3782:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Even with the extra guilds and players coming to TC, they still are not doing as good as they used to do. Why? They forgot how to fight

Joke’s on you TC never knew how to fight.
You’re losing to baddies, what does that make you? hmm? HMMMM?

I was on TC and they did. But, since PPT is everything now, TC has forgotten how to fight.

As far as losing. I really don’t care any more until A.Net does something to actually fix WvW. I don’t expect they will so WvW will just end up being all the PPT servers, each hiding behind their sieged up keeps not fighting.

Dusty Moon.4382:

As far as losing. I really don’t care

That wasn’t the question

jason.9548:

Lol, I will continue to do what I want and t3 your ebg
keeps because of the current double teaming from fa and db. Also I might add that db will back stab fa which is funny.

Double team what? Not when TC has TORK and CERN consistently ignoring TCBL scouts. No one needs to even try to make a double team. LOL

Is this post serious?

I am very sorry that you got outblobbed out of all 4 maps and had to retreat to the forums, but it seems like they will be coming here to PPT too.

ArchonWing.9480:

I am very sorry that you got outblobbed out of all 4 maps and had to retreat to the forums, but it seems like they will be coming here to PPT too.

+1

LetoII.3782:

Dusty Moon.4382:

Even with the extra guilds and players coming to TC, they still are not doing as good as they used to do. Why? They forgot how to fight

Joke’s on you TC never knew how to fight.
You’re losing to baddies, what does that make you? hmm? HMMMM?

TC did WHEN I was on TC, now I am not on TC any more.

As I said, I don’t care about WvW any more, not until they fix it.

Chaba.5410:

jason.9548:

Lol, I will continue to do what I want and t3 your ebg
keeps because of the current double teaming from fa and db. Also I might add that db will back stab fa which is funny.

Double team what? Not when TC has TORK and CERN consistently ignoring TCBL scouts. No one needs to even try to make a double team. LOL

Is this post serious?

TORK only uses siege or runs – they don’t fight and CERN prefers taking BL’s that aren’t manned, so they don’t like to fight either – Disco of CERN will fight, the other CERN commanders not so much.

nothing to do with stacking

it is more like the bad situations at the bottom servers lead to players going up and they happen to choose that server

the situation ultimately is the result of the players themselves choosing a easy way out which lead to further complications

what anet can do now is to merge all the servers and recreate them dynamically every X months, redistributing the population while having a population enforcement across the servers. this is not a popular solution but regardless, it is the only way to spread the population equally. or you can continue to have people stacking on one server.

Dusty Moon.4382:

The guilds I have seen from JQ are KAZO and KILL so far and I am sure there are more.

Kill is still on JQ.

SkyShroud.2865:

nothing to do with stacking

it is more like the bad situations at the bottom servers lead to players going up and they happen to choose that server

the situation ultimately is the result of the players themselves choosing a easy way out which lead to further complications

what anet can do now is to merge all the servers and recreate them dynamically every X months, redistributing the population while having a population enforcement across the servers. this is not a popular solution but regardless, it is the only way to spread the population equally. or you can continue to have people stacking on one server.

Or y’know players finally clue in that stacking isn’t much fun and spread out to get more fights.

Anet shouldn’t have to step in like a parent with two cranky kids in the backseat. I assume most of us are adults?

Jayne.9251:

SkyShroud.2865:

nothing to do with stacking

it is more like the bad situations at the bottom servers lead to players going up and they happen to choose that server

the situation ultimately is the result of the players themselves choosing a easy way out which lead to further complications

what anet can do now is to merge all the servers and recreate them dynamically every X months, redistributing the population while having a population enforcement across the servers. this is not a popular solution but regardless, it is the only way to spread the population equally. or you can continue to have people stacking on one server.

Or y’know players finally clue in that stacking isn’t much fun and spread out to get more fights.

Anet shouldn’t have to step in like a parent with two cranky kids in the backseat. I assume most of us are adults?

sorry. adult in age and being adult are really different.

to begin with, the population collapsing and unbalance are primarily caused by players transferring in the first place – propaganda of the recruiters, guild leaders panicking and believe whatever, simplicity mindset that top = best and so on

there are things that shouldn’t be left to the players to decide because players naturally do not care about the bigger picture until they finally got burn. even by then, they are powerless to resolve it.

SkyShroud.2865:

nothing to do with stacking

it is more like the bad situations at the bottom servers lead to players going up and they happen to choose that server

the situation ultimately is the result of the players themselves choosing a easy way out which lead to further complications

what anet can do now is to merge all the servers and recreate them dynamically every X months, redistributing the population while having a population enforcement across the servers. this is not a popular solution but regardless, it is the only way to spread the population equally. or you can continue to have people stacking on one server.

A few decent sized guilds came from T1. So it doesn’t really apply here. It is stacking a server for the purpose of bringing it to T1. Allowing this BS makes players leave. Everyone wants to think they they are playing a fair and unadulterated game, not something that is being fixed or hacked by any certain group.

I don’t think they should prevent players from moving, but they need to control it to a point. For instance, have a 3 or 6 month season and only in the first two weeks transfers can take place. Its no use playing in tiers if a group can switch between servers and change the environment and play. It might as well be random.

The main point is not about winning or losing, its about having fun and being competitive. These guilds that are moving and varying the population drastically – drives players away.

I’m probably not signing on this week and hoping others in FA and DB don’t so TC can just sit on their thumbs and enjoy the mess they made. It will also move us out of this political tier which will make me happy.

Anet cares about gem sales from server transfers much more than it cares about having decent WvW.

In NA prime I always see DB dropping open field seige while next to a tower full of ACs and shield gens. We slowly pull them back away from their safty net and watch them as they get all hyped and push… then get one pushed. And call their raid. Won’t say the guild name but it sure isn’t [DUSK].

FA on the other hand… is a ghost town. Or should I say ghost tower? Even their roamers struggle to roam.

I also have sshots of Anet devs claiming DB keep and spawn camping them with ACs.

Edit: Edit to edit my edit’s edit.

Dusty Moon.4382:

Chaba.5410:

jason.9548:

Lol, I will continue to do what I want and t3 your ebg
keeps because of the current double teaming from fa and db. Also I might add that db will back stab fa which is funny.

Double team what? Not when TC has TORK and CERN consistently ignoring TCBL scouts. No one needs to even try to make a double team. LOL

Is this post serious?

TORK only uses siege or runs – they don’t fight and CERN prefers taking BL’s that aren’t manned, so they don’t like to fight either – Disco of CERN will fight, the other CERN commanders not so much.

Other CERN commanders not so much? Speak for yourself. I will absolutely fight if a fight presents itself.

So this Donkey who created this post didn’t have any issues when DB was obliterating tier 3 servers by over 200k and all of a sudden losing by 10-20k is an issue ? And DB got a win a few weeks ago so what’s the problem ?

donkey.1653:

SkyShroud.2865:

nothing to do with stacking

it is more like the bad situations at the bottom servers lead to players going up and they happen to choose that server

the situation ultimately is the result of the players themselves choosing a easy way out which lead to further complications

what anet can do now is to merge all the servers and recreate them dynamically every X months, redistributing the population while having a population enforcement across the servers. this is not a popular solution but regardless, it is the only way to spread the population equally. or you can continue to have people stacking on one server.

A few decent sized guilds came from T1. So it doesn’t really apply here. It is stacking a server for the purpose of bringing it to T1. Allowing this BS makes players leave. Everyone wants to think they they are playing a fair and unadulterated game, not something that is being fixed or hacked by any certain group.

I don’t think they should prevent players from moving, but they need to control it to a point. For instance, have a 3 or 6 month season and only in the first two weeks transfers can take place. Its no use playing in tiers if a group can switch between servers and change the environment and play. It might as well be random.

The main point is not about winning or losing, its about having fun and being competitive. These guilds that are moving and varying the population drastically – drives players away.

I’m probably not signing on this week and hoping others in FA and DB don’t so TC can just sit on their thumbs and enjoy the mess they made. It will also move us out of this political tier which will make me happy.

Personally, I don’t think anyone is intentionally stacking on tc. Well, if T1 guilds are stupid enough to go TC, that’s another story. WvW population trend continue to decline in a single direction. Like I predicted in my server forums, I mentioned that FA will be the next to drop into medium pop and it did now. DB will follow next while TC will be after DB.

Finally, after all of T2 drop into medium pop, T1 will finally get burn like the rest. Now, is a matter if the so-called overhaul will do anything to this trend.

This thread is hilarious.

Kazo is TC native and to my knowledge not a single guild was bought.

Ironically DB stacked up for that t1 dream crushing other servers in the attempt to do so and now they are losing (I will enjoy watching another DB implosion).

DB and FA have a confirmed alliance versus TC and even then they still cannot bring it down (all this talk about TC having bad players and bad commanders just goes to show how low the skill level is on DB and FA because you guys are losing lel).

TC is not stacking up to go to t1, if somehow it does go to t1 it will have a hard time because people are not ready for t1 yet.

bettadenu.5483:

This thread is hilarious.

Kazo is TC native and to my knowledge not a single guild was bought.

Ironically DB stacked up for that t1 dream crushing other servers in the attempt to do so and now they are losing (I will enjoy watching another DB implosion).

DB and FA have a confirmed alliance versus TC and even then they still cannot bring it down (all this talk about TC having bad players and bad commanders just goes to show how low the skill level is on DB and FA because you guys are losing lel).

TC is not stacking up to go to t1, if somehow it does go to t1 it will have a hard time because people are not ready for t1 yet.

This comment is hilarious.

Man I miss these threads. grabs some popcorn

Eh, I am just waiting for TC to hit T1. After our 3 biggest guilds quit(FA) we lost all hope of beating them. We still own them when outnumbered in fights tho, which is funny as hell. Map blobs getting owned by 30/40 people.

And to those complainging about double teaming, already forgot SoS+TC vs FA? haha

Bossun.2046:

Eh, I am just waiting for TC to hit T1. After our 3 biggest guilds quit(FA) we lost all hope of beating them. We still own them when outnumbered in fights tho, which is funny as hell. Map blobs getting owned by 30/40 people.

And to those complainging about double teaming, already forgot SoS+TC vs FA? haha

Yeah all 5 people left on SoS at that point must have been rough for you guys

bettadenu.5483:

TC is not stacking up to go to t1, if somehow it does go to t1 it will have a hard time because people are not ready for t1 yet.

I agree that TC is not stacking to go to Tier 1. It seems to me that the JQ guilds that transferred there were more interested in stopping DB from pushing into Tier 1 and JQ or BG from falling into Tier 2.

Once DB has imploded, those JQ guilds will be going right back up to JQ in Tier 1.

The Tier Metagame is in full force. There are players in both JQ and BG that are heavily invested in those servers and don’t want them to fall down the ranks. The paid transfers and the ability to set up multiple alt accounts creates a bit of a pay to win in this regard. Anyone willing to throw enough money at the problem can manipulate the tiers and sabotage rising servers.

The only way DB can expect to surpass TC is to start rapidly increasing their population. And that is going to cost them.

expandas.7051:

This comment is hilarious.

I’m smiling collecting that extra chest yo

TorquedSoul.8097:

bettadenu.5483:

TC is not stacking up to go to t1, if somehow it does go to t1 it will have a hard time because people are not ready for t1 yet.

I agree that TC is not stacking to go to Tier 1. It seems to me that the JQ guilds that transferred there were more interested in stopping DB from pushing into Tier 1 and JQ or BG from falling into Tier 2.

Once DB has imploded, those JQ guilds will be going right back up to JQ in Tier 1.

The Tier Metagame is in full force. There are players in both JQ and BG that are heavily invested in those servers and don’t want them to fall down the ranks. The paid transfers and the ability to set up multiple alt accounts creates a bit of a pay to win in this regard. Anyone willing to throw enough money at the problem can manipulate the tiers and sabotage rising servers.

The only way DB can expect to surpass TC is to start rapidly increasing their population. And that is going to cost them.

People like you need to stop thinking everything is some illuminati conspiracy.
The reason why some JQ have moved to TC is because the matchup in t1 is stale not to protect the holy siege grail that is t1 top kek.

Well, first this is one person’s opinion not DB. DB is not crying, I don’t talk about this BS when running like TC does. Yes, of course I would post on this forum and not on the most toxic gw2 forum on the net. ;-)

Now for the good part, I used to be on TC and know people on that server. Most of your stories are just what you want to think.

donkey.1653:

Well, first this is one person’s opinion not DB. DB is not crying, I don’t talk about this BS when running like TC does. Yes, of course I would post on this forum and not on the most toxic gw2 forum on the net. ;-)

Now for the good part, I used to be on TC and know people on that server. Most of your stories are just what you want to think.

Like DAWN and VP runs away/logs off when TC EU rolls up?

TorquedSoul.8097:

bettadenu.5483:

TC is not stacking up to go to t1, if somehow it does go to t1 it will have a hard time because people are not ready for t1 yet.

I agree that TC is not stacking to go to Tier 1. It seems to me that the JQ guilds that transferred there were more interested in stopping DB from pushing into Tier 1 and JQ or BG from falling into Tier 2.

Once DB has imploded, those JQ guilds will be going right back up to JQ in Tier 1.

The Tier Metagame is in full force. There are players in both JQ and BG that are heavily invested in those servers and don’t want them to fall down the ranks. The paid transfers and the ability to set up multiple alt accounts creates a bit of a pay to win in this regard. Anyone willing to throw enough money at the problem can manipulate the tiers and sabotage rising servers.

The only way DB can expect to surpass TC is to start rapidly increasing their population. And that is going to cost them.

I agree but isn’t that Anet’s point for allowing server transfers, some revenue from wvw. I doubt Anet will change this because it’s really their only source of income from wvw players. On the issue of server stacking, I don’t see any issues with it being that every server has the option to buy guilds and players from other servers.

Far as the T1 guilds and players coming down to mess up other tiers, well knuckle heads will always be knuckle heads, you either adapt and over come or you accept the situation for what it is and just get beat, or you can just take a break or move on to greener pastures. It’s really that simple in my eyes, crying about this on the forums serves no one but the knuckle heads looking to draw out such responses, just don’t give them that satisfaction.

Oh by the way before people call me a TC noob or what not. Nah I’m Db till the time I leave GW2 for greener pastures when they present them selves. And always remember crappers will always be crappers till they look to change themselves and their ways.

Much Love to Ye All

Majestic

Dusty Moon.4382:

TORK only uses siege or runs – they don’t fight and CERN prefers taking BL’s that aren’t manned, so they don’t like to fight either – Disco of CERN will fight, the other CERN commanders not so much.

So what you’re saying is that when there are fourteen superior AC’s and four shield gens in a tower we’re trying to take, we should just sit under AC fire and PvDoor like good zerglings.

I could understand FA being upset about our use of siege as it’s often overkill for their number of players (FA plays well when they are around to play, though a lot of their roamers are really terribly rude people), but seriously, DB during NA prime is almost as bad as Yak’s Bend, having fought YB for several months just before they got stacked for T1 back when I was in the middle/low tiers. Oddly enough, I do believe this is when I was playing on Dragonbrand along with EDGE and BETA and BP. Seeing as EDGE kicked me for playing a ranger (then their guild fell apart when they moved to T1 and got absolutely destroyed because certain people in the guild were idiots and thought they were way better than they were), and BP and the rest went to HoD briefly (BP now on TC), I went to greener pastures to DH and then SF to get some better mid-tier fights and roaming with my guild. With my guild quitting on HoT and the mass departure of players from SF (I was literally the only player in SF’s WvW at one point during my time of play, with almost 60% contribution to their server score), I PM’ed Grim about where he was, and was introduced to TC. None of the raiding guilds on DB are native. Claims about being upset with transfers is hypocritical when the server is effectively the result of people jumping on the “Dragonwagon” – a term coined when DB was getting transfers such as EDGE and a few other guilds by DB-native players when I joined and the server pushed to T3 before its collapse some time ago.

The overbearing presence is really just at certain times. About a week ago, TC was outnumbered in EBG and both enemy and home BL’s. Most of the time I log in not on NA prime, there isn’t a commander anywhere.

I can’t speak for OCX timezones, but as far as NA goes, I haven’t seen any new guilds from other servers except for HUNT (again, a loss for FA). Some random on DB was raging at me a few days ago in whisper chat saying that DB was going to give up for a few weeks to send TC to T1/“gl in T1 lol” due to our mass purchase of guilds (seriously I don’t know where this rumor is coming from) in order to dominate T2 and that this was the first time in a while they’ve taken losses due to our “ridiculous map queue zergs.”

I just don’t understand why people can’t be civil about this whole ordeal. Even HUNT was TC-native before going to FA, and according to Celsith herself she was sick of the attitude and simply wanted to return to her home server for the community. This WAS a T1 server after all. Expecting it not to have a substantial playerbase or appeal (as it has way fewer people than T1 servers so queues are tiny, but still tons of action) is kind of ridiculous. Particularly when T1 is stale and people are complaining YB doesn’t bring any fights, and that T2 is/was a very competitive matchup.

DeceiverX.8361:

Even HUNT was TC-native before going to FA, and according to Celsith herself she was sick of the attitude and simply wanted to return to her home server for the community.

Sick of what attitude? The guilds that ran in EBG that HUNT hung around quit the game for BDO and The Division. I’d rather Celsith speak for herself here.

Chaba.5410:

DeceiverX.8361:

Even HUNT was TC-native before going to FA, and according to Celsith herself she was sick of the attitude and simply wanted to return to her home server for the community.

Sick of what attitude? The guilds that ran in EBG that HUNT hung around quit the game for BDO and The Division. I’d rather Celsith speak for herself here.

Going by what she said in teamspeak. If you can convince her to post here, sure. Otherwise whisper her. I’m not going to open up a can of worms in public because it’s not my guild, and not my personal politics. My point was to convey that the notion of TC being this huge bandwagon server for tons of guilds to megablob T2 is just ridiculous based on first-hand accounts of the reasoning from the only guild I do know transferred.